48MPHSlapShot Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 12 minutes ago, Pete M said: Oh, and by the way since JB has taken over this team has been on the downward slide Yup, and that obviously has nothing to do with the fact that it was an ageing core at the end of its life expectancy when he was hired, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, Crabcakes said: Have you sat down with Vallardi and asked him some pointed questions to try and suss out his character. He went 11 for a reason. I don't claim to know what it is but I can accept that there is one. The moral of the story is don't believe what the peanut gallery tells you. I see what PeteM is talking about. Its the type of player that we were HOPING to get. Sorry but we have spent years and years watching the Pettersson type player fail at getting us a cup. The Sedins, Naslund all were great players but man would I love to have a Yzerman, Crosby, Toews type of player to do some damage in the playoffs. To each his own I guess, but, because these guys are PROSPECTS, there is no guarantee any of them will even make it to the NHL anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Crabcakes said: Have you sat down with Vallardi and asked him some pointed questions to try and suss out his character. He went 11 for a reason. I don't claim to know what it is but I can accept that there is one. The moral of the story is don't believe what the peanut gallery tells you. I just have to watch him play to know the kid can play and he plays with character. He is a beast below the hash marks...did you not see him play for the supremacy of junior hockey. His performance was similar to the old Blazer days with Iginla, Tucker and Doan. The kid can play...I listened to the kid and he is confident and a winner...reminds me how Vincent Lecavalier and St Louis talked after winning the Stanley cup. He is a winner. Lacks character...get over yourself..ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 3 hours ago, King Heffy said: I like our top 9 if everyone pans out: Baertschi-Horvat-Boeser Virtanen-Pettersson-Dahlen Goldobin-Gaudette-Granlund I really like these lines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacious Crumb Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Just now, EdgarM said: I see what PeteM is talking about. Its the type of player that we were HOPING to get. Sorry but we have spent years and years watching the Pettersson type player fail at getting us a cup. The Sedins, Naslund all were great players but man would I love to have a Yzerman, Crosby, Toews type of player to do some damage in the playoffs. To each his own I guess, but, because these guys are PROSPECTS, there is no guarantee any of them will even make it to the NHL anyways. No offense amigo but Bo is our Toews. Perhaps Petterson is our Kane... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Yup, and that obviously has nothing to do with the fact that it was an ageing core at the end of its life expectancy when he was hired, right? or nothing to do with bad trades and letting players walk for nothing and signing over the hill players to contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Just now, Salacious Crumb said: No offense amigo but Bo is our Toews. Perhaps Petterson is our Kane... That is a big PERHAPS isn't it? But if you were to give me two Bo's?........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Pete M said: I just have to watch him play to know the kid can play and he plays with character. He is a beast below the hatch marks...did you not see him play for the supremacy of junior hockey. His performance was similar to the old Blazer days with Iginla, Tucker and Doan. The kid can play...I listened to the kid and he is confident and a winner...reminds me how Vincent Lecavalier and St Louis talked after winning the Stanley cup. He is a winner. Lacks character...get over yourself..ffs Tucker was a good 3rd liner.... Just like Vilardi will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Just now, Pete M said: or nothing to do with bad trades and letting players walk for nothing and signing over the hill players to contracts. Which of his trades do you have a problem with? His predecessor is the one who crippled the franchise with bad trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Just now, King Heffy said: Tucker was a good 3rd liner.... Just like Vilardi will be. You obviously did not watch him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Pete M said: I just have to watch him play to know the kid can play and he plays with character. He is a beast below the hatch marks...did you not see him play for the supremacy of junior hockey. His performance was similar to the old Blazer days with Iginla, Tucker and Doan. The kid can play...I listened to the kid and he is confident and a winner...reminds me how Vincent Lecavalier and St Louis talked after winning the Stanley cup. He is a winner. Lacks character...get over yourself..ffs Villardi lacks something that 10 other players have. FFS. That much is crystal clear. Your ego is getting in your way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 1 minute ago, King Heffy said: Tucker was a good 3rd liner.... Just like Vilardi will be. I guess you can probably tell us how many points he is going to produce and what year he is going to retire too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Just now, Pete M said: You obviously did not watch him play. I did. I wasn't impressed. He'll be a serviceable 3rd liner but he's more Malhotra than Doan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Crabcakes said: Villardi lacks something that 10 other players have. FFS. That much is crystal clear. Your ego is getting in your way. What about the teams that needed a defenseman instead of a forward? hmmmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Just now, King Heffy said: Which of his trades do you have a problem with? His predecessor is the one who crippled the franchise with bad trades. look at my old posts and others on this board and take your pick. Oh I forgot, you think all fans are stupid and can't observe for themselves. They need to be lead like sheep and be told like good Christians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Pete M said: or nothing to do with bad trades and letting players walk for nothing and signing over the hill players to contracts. Yup. Horrible trades like the Granlund and Baertschi deals, letting Hammer and Vrbata walk for nothing as opposed to the craps that were being offered for them, or giving up nothing for free agents that we can theoretically flip for more assets down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, Crabcakes said: Villardi lacks something that 10 other players have. FFS. That much is crystal clear. Your ego is getting in your way. I think you are mistaking my ego with my observations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 3 hours ago, Hortankin said: Goldobin Petterson Dahlen? What do you guys think? Goldobin and Dahlen would be okay with Glass. WIth Pettersson that line is just too soft for NHL. They might good in the Swedish league but the NHL is different. And as for being a future 1st line, if even one of those players becomes a legitimate first liner I will be surprised. To me they all look like second liners, if things go well. Being a second liner in the NHL is still good, but they will need guys playing with them who provide some muscle and solid defence. Vegas must have been surprised and delighted to see Glass fall into their laps, just like Calgary was last year with Tkachuk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Sign Kane next year as UFA, in a few years, something like: Dahlen, Petersson, Boeser Kane, Horvat, Goldobin Granlund, Gaudette, Virtanen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Just now, J.R. said: Sign Kane next year as UFA, in a few years, something like: Dahlen, Petersson, Boeser Kane, Horvat, Goldobin Granlund, Gaudette, Virtanen I like it. I see Bear Cheese isn't in your projected lineup. Flipped for a Dman perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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