Warhippy Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) I remember reading about this guy a while back. A former reservist who had threatened numerous people in Canada then fled the country; listed as a missing person. A far right extremist and Neo Nazi by admission he had planned or threatened numerous people and agencies. Allegedly he is part of a Neo Naz/Alt Right extremist group called The Base and they had planned attacks against a rally in Virginia and possibly against the Virginia State Legistlature as well. Take it for what you will but that's damned scary. Apparently they planned to attack and murder various people they believed were part of "antifa" protestors and potentially the governor as well. This is all apparently on the heels of and possibly due to a state wide democratic bill which would enact stronger gun policies which while watered down; closely resemble what we have here in Canada. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guns-rally/alleged-neo-nazis-caught-with-assault-rifle-charged-ahead-of-virginia-gun-rally-idUSKBN1ZF2B3 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51142752 The FBI has arrested three suspected members of a neo-Nazi hate group who planned to travel to a pro-gun rally in Virginia on Monday. One was a Canadian army reservist who was fired in August over ties to hate groups and has been suspected missing since, Canadian police told the BBC. Virginia governor Ralph Northam has declared a state of emergency in the city of Richmond ahead of the rally. He said law enforcement believed there was a threat of violence. Governor Northam on Thursday announced a ban on guns in the state's Capitol area in Richmond from Friday until Tuesday, citing threats of violence made ahead of the rally. The order also covers other weapons such as knives and sticks. He said some of the violent rhetoric seen online was reminiscent of that seen before the deadly Charlottesville rally in 2017, at which a 32-year-old counter protester, Heather Heyer, was killed by white nationalist James Fields. Who are the accused? FBI in Baltimore, Maryland charged Brian Lemley, 33, and William Bilbrough, 19, with transporting and harbouring aliens. They charged Mr Lemley and Canadian Patrik Mathews with transporting a firearm and ammunition with intent to commit a felony. The FBI alleges that Mr Mathews entered the US illegally at the Manitoba/Minnesota border. All three are accused of being members of a white supremacist group known as The Base. According to the criminal complaint filed with the state's attorney general, The Base's members discussed in encrypted online chatrooms "recruitment, creating a white ethno-state, committing acts of violence against minority communities (including African-Americans and Jewish-Americans), the organization's military-style training camps, and ways to make improvised explosive devices". Rally for gun rights Monday's rally was planned by the Virginia Citizens Defence League (VCDL), a pro-gun-rights group, to protest gun control legislation that is expected to pass in the new year. VCDL said it was expecting 50,000 people to attend the protest. Skip Twitter post by @GovernorVA Ralph Northam ✔@GovernorVA We have received credible intelligence from our law enforcement agencies of threats of violence surrounding the demonstration planned for Monday, January 20. This includes extremist rhetoric similar to what has been seen before major incidents, such as Charlottesville in 2017. 1,132 12:03 PM - Jan 15, 2020 Twitter Ads info and privacy 2,768 people are talking about this Report End of Twitter post by @GovernorVA Democrats won control of the Virginia state legislature last autumn, for the first time since 1994, and have made gun control a key part of their platform, especially in light of last summer's shooting at Virginia Beach, which killed 12. Mr Northam, who is also a Democrat and has been governor since 2017, tried to get gun control measures passed to no avail this summer, before the election. On the run Mr Mathews was a combat engineer in the Canadian Army Reserve, but he was fired in late August after an nundercover reporter for the Winnipeg Free Press connected him to The Base and alleged he was trying to recruit new members. "We're real (expletive) Nazis and they can't do s—- to us but wait for us to put em against the wall," Mr Mathews allegedly wrote in an online encrypted chatroom. Police raided Mr Matthews' home shortly after the report and seized a number of firearms. He subsequently disappeared, and RCMP were still looking for him on 2 September, when they found his car abandoned about five miles (8 km) away from the Minnesota border. Updated https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51144177 Three more alleged members of a US neo-Nazi hate group have been arrested in Georgia, authorities say, in what appears to be a national operation. The arrests came on the same day that three suspected members of the same group were detained in Maryland and Delaware. All six men are reported members of white supremacist group The Base. One of the three was a Canadian army reservist who had been missing for several months after fleeing Canada. Patrik Matthews is believed to have illegally crossed into the US after his alleged affiliations with The Base were discovered. He was arrested alongside two others in the Maryland and Delaware operation. The FBI said Mr Matthews and two others planned to travel to a pro-gun rally on Monday in Richmond, Virginia. Virginia governor Ralph Northam declared a state of emergency on Wednesday ahead of the rally, to block attendees from carrying weapons near the grounds of the Capitol building, citing credible threats of violence. FBI arrests suspected neo-Nazis ahead of gun rally According to an arrest warrant from the Floyd County Police Department, the three Georgia men were arrested after an undercover FBI sting operation, and charged with attempted murder and participating in a criminal organisation. According to arrest affidavits, The Base is a racially motivated violent extremist group that sought to "accelerate the downfall of the United States government, incite a race war and establish a white ethno-state." Luke Austin Lane, Michael Helterbrand, and Jacob Kaderli were planning to "overthrow the government and murder a Bartow County couple" who they believed to be Antifa members, Floyd County police said in a statement. An unnamed member of The Base who crossed into the US illegally met with two members of those arrested in Georgia in October 2019 to discuss revenge attacks against his enemies, according to charging documents. The gang member, presumed to be Mr Matthews, is said to have called for the "death penalty" against anyone engaged in anti-fascist activities. It was not known if the three men arrested in Georgia were planning to attend the gun-rights rally in Richmond. The group was involved in the gang's paramilitary training camp located at a home Silver Creek, Georgia, police said. Edited January 18, 2020 by Warhippy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) And of course. Without batting an eye, the US president gives us a gem that's bound to age well. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guns-rally/alleged-neo-nazis-caught-with-assault-rifle-charged-ahead-of-virginia-gun-rally-idUSKBN1ZF2B3 Edited January 18, 2020 by Warhippy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 We need a wall with Canada, It can can be made out of ice or used hockey sticks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gurn Posted January 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, CBH1926 said: We need a wall with Canada, It can can be made out of ice or used hockey sticks. Save money and use those rubber dividers, from the conveyor belt at grocery stores, nobody messes with them. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Zamboni Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, gurn said: Save money and use those rubber dividers, from the conveyor belt at grocery stores, nobody messes with them. i put a few items on the checkout with a clear 16 inch gap between me and the person ahead without bothering with the divider...the poor old woman ahead nearly had a fit and gave me the stink eye....those dividers mean business! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 43 minutes ago, CBH1926 said: We need a wall with Canada, It can can be made out of ice or used hockey sticks. How about just one big moat around Toronto? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whaleroad Train Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: How about just one big moat around Toronto? To keep people in, or out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 36 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: How about just one big moat around Toronto? Will it have alligators? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 21 minutes ago, CBH1926 said: Will it have alligators? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldoescobar Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) The USA MAGA needs to viciously punish Canada for this! 1000% tariffs on all? Edited January 18, 2020 by Ronaldoescobar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 "neo-Nazi hate group" seems redundant. I'm glad he found more friends down south and got arrested there, but this is a very scary trend in Canada. CSIS has far right groups as our biggest terror threat in Canada, and its growing. An interesting tidbit for those who like to focus on Muslims, just fyi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share Posted January 18, 2020 58 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: "neo-Nazi hate group" seems redundant. I'm glad he found more friends down south and got arrested there, but this is a very scary trend in Canada. CSIS has far right groups as our biggest terror threat in Canada, and its growing. An interesting tidbit for those who like to focus on Muslims, just fyi. Read in to the whole story. They've made 3 separate arrests of people who planned to open fire at a peaceful rally. It's actually a scary new development in this tribal left v right issue in America. But already, the talking heads are out claiming they're just gun loving Patriots fighting for the 2nd, the left brought this on themselves. And my favorite, the left are the violent ones 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsAllOursBoys Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 11 hours ago, Warhippy said: And of course. Without batting an eye, the US president gives us a gem that's bound to age well. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guns-rally/alleged-neo-nazis-caught-with-assault-rifle-charged-ahead-of-virginia-gun-rally-idUSKBN1ZF2B3 What part of this "fine" piece of journalism links Trump to these Nazi wackos? Overall, the article sets up yet another false equivalency by the MSM to push their agenda and brainwash the unsuspecting and naive. It's another fine example of the processes of the Hegelian Dialectic that stokes the fires of conflict and chaos in order to establish a new "order." The author fails to mention the fact that the actions and worldview of these parasitical lunatics are in direct odds with the worldview and actions of the peace abiding pro-gun organizations and activists that are exercising their constitutional right to march. Failing to highlight this important fact creates a false equivalency in the minds of readers and a inaccurate and misleading link between Neo-Nazi terrorists and the law-abiding gun-rights activists. Facts taken out of context become the greatest of lies and deception. Failure to draw these critically important distinctions is not only intellectually dishonest, but is also the epitome of ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsAllOursBoys Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said: "neo-Nazi hate group" seems redundant. I'm glad he found more friends down south and got arrested there, but this is a very scary trend in Canada. CSIS has far right groups as our biggest terror threat in Canada, and its growing. An interesting tidbit for those who like to focus on Muslims, just fyi. I have some good friends who are Christians, Muslims, Sikh and Hindus. Wonderful people. Although some worldviews are more susceptible to violence and hate, there's lunatics and terrorists in every religion that believe violence, hate and subjugation of unbelievers is the way of godliness. Unfortunately for those of us in the western world, the separation of the secular vs sacred has bred ignorance of the underlying psychology and philosophy of many worldviews. Knowledge of exoteric beliefs does not necessitate an understanding of the esoteric. Such ignorance has put us at a disadvantage and left us vulnerable to be manipulated by the government, MSM and other power structures of society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 46 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Read in to the whole story. They've made 3 separate arrests of people who planned to open fire at a peaceful rally. It's actually a scary new development in this tribal left v right issue in America. But already, the talking heads are out claiming they're just gun loving Patriots fighting for the 2nd, the left brought this on themselves. And my favorite, the left are the violent ones "antifa made me do it" - might actually work on some US juries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, ItsAllOursBoys said: I have some good friends who are Christians, Muslims, Sikh and Hindus. Wonderful people. Although some worldviews are more susceptible to violence and hate, there's lunatics and terrorists in every religion that believe violence, hate and subjugation of unbelievers is the way of godliness. Unfortunately for those of us in the western world, the separation of the secular vs sacred has bred ignorance of the underlying psychology and philosophy of many worldviews. Knowledge of exoteric beliefs does not necessitate an understanding of the esoteric. Such ignorance has put us at a disadvantage and left us vulnerable to be manipulated by the government, MSM and other power structures of society. lucky for us we know Nazi's are bad then. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 I have good friends who are....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, ItsAllOursBoys said: What part of this "fine" piece of journalism links Trump to these Nazi wackos? Overall, the article sets up yet another false equivalency by the MSM to push their agenda and brainwash the unsuspecting and naive. It's another fine example of the processes of the Hegelian Dialectic that stokes the fires of conflict and chaos in order to establish a new "order." The author fails to mention the fact that the actions and worldview of these parasitical lunatics are in direct odds with the worldview and actions of the peace abiding pro-gun organizations and activists that are exercising their constitutional right to march. Failing to highlight this important fact creates a false equivalency in the minds of readers and a inaccurate and misleading link between Neo-Nazi terrorists and the law-abiding gun-rights activists. Facts taken out of context become the greatest of lies and deception. Failure to draw these critically important distinctions is not only intellectually dishonest, but is also the epitome of ignorance. Thems a lot of words for you to simply dsay Fake news 2nd Amendmnet I don't believe it Trump 2020 There is nothing misleading here. Far right/Alt right/Neo Nazi members were arrested for literally threatening and planning an attack against peaceful protestors. Facts taken out of context are bad, but literally creating a false narrative to ignore the real danger is ignorance at its highest. As for "fine piece of journalism" none of it is linked to Trump at all, until he tweeted that the Dems were coming after their guns and 2nd amendment rights... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, ItsAllOursBoys said: I have some good friends who are Christians, Muslims, Sikh and Hindus. Wonderful people. Fine people in fact. On both sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 6 hours ago, Ronaldoescobar said: The USA MAGA needs to viciously punish Canada for this! 1000% tariffs on all? Only on dog sleds, maple syrup, mukluks, canoes and ice skates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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