Sbriggs Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, Alflives said: Thanks for the patience Sbriggs, and taking the time to explain the merits of this trade and the philosophy behind what JB is doing. Well said, thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, kingofsurrey said: Dangerous gamble. The fans will be very unhappy if we gave up a top prospect for a rental in a non playoff season..... Madden is a B prospect at best lol 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High and Inside Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Pickly said: Creating a winning environment and actually playing meaningful hockey is how teams mature, grow, and learn to overcome hurdles and that’s a fact. That’s Exactly what they are doing right now as they are playing meaningful hockey for the first time in half a decade. FFS man have some optimism for once. This! I totally agree man. Who wants to be like the Oilers for the next 10 years. After 4 years out I want in the playoffs end of story. After this deal is done we have lots of prospects left. Madden is a tiny center that has no guarantees of turning into anything. Look at Johnny Hockey great college player that scores a lot in the regular season and come playoff time is invisible. Our forward group now would grind that flames team into smitherines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, luckylager said: Their career stats are almost identical. Miller has a slight edge. Yeah, still not so sure Toffoli could add what Miller has added for us. But if you told me Miller would be a point per game guy for us I would have told you that you were crazy. I am just hopeful he plays for us the way he has played for LA. He has a 57% corsi playing on LA. That's pretty crazy in my books given how bad they been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Worth it, Toffoli's only 27 and Boeser's out long term now. JB is trying to save this season and Toffoli is a bonafide 30 goal scorer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: How is it Willie D's fault he had no good players to play in the top 9? Lol. That feels like a management thing. Willie D Era is what I meant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, 6YPE said: Just think about how everyone was losing it when JB traded for Miller... this could very well turn out to be a similar situation... no ones complaining now. Hey this is Vancouver, we'll find something to complain about..........right Alf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 This shows you can add scraps together for a top line player. 2nd round pick, Madden and Schaller are all going to get nowhere, Toffoli is a 1st liner for another 3 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Worth it, Toffoli's only 27 and Boeser's out long term now. JB is trying to save this season and Toffoli is a bonafide 30 goal scorer. Toffoli has never scored 30 goals in a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky-Winky Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Nice, i love toffoli , this is gonna be great , i dont mind losing madden , as we have alot of good prospects in our system as is, so for someone like toffoli ...its worth, and putting him with tannner again, gonna be epic 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, Me_ said: Toffoli has never scored 30 goals in a season. Wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, brian42 said: Can’t wait to see these lines Once Leivo and Boeser are back: Miller Petey Boeser Pearson Horvat Toffoli Leivo Gaudette Virtanen Roussel Beagle Sutter Motte MacEwen Bailey Eriksson min the future I hope we don’t spend much more than a million per player on the 4th line though. I'd personally go Miller-Pettersson-Boeser Pearson-Horvat-Toffoli Leivo-Gaudette-Virtanen Motte-Beagle-MacEwen Roussel Trade Sutter at deadline and try to recoup that 2nd rounder given up for Toffoli 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Me_ said: Toffoli has never scored 30 goals in a season. toffoli has 1x brock never has scored 30 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky-Winky Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Me_ said: Toffoli has never scored 30 goals in a season. He scored 31 goals in 2015-2016 its on the nhlstats site 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Devron44 said: Wrong 31 goals 2015/16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: Yeah, still not so sure Toffoli could add what Miller has added for us. But if you told me Miller would be a point per game guy for us I would have told you that you were crazy. I am just hopeful he plays for us the way he has played for LA. He has a 57% corsi playing on LA. That's pretty crazy in my books given how bad they been. Toffoli is a player I pay attention to at times when we're playing LA. I've mentioned earlier that he's greasy and wins a lot of battles. He does hit, not as much as Miller, but it's not like Bo's gonna hit anyone either. He picks his spots, but he doesn't shy away from contact or allow himself to be pushed around. Plus he's got a crafty elbow and uses his stick in creative ways (greasy). If they decide to use him with Petey while Boes is out, there's no reason to think he wont be ppg with Miller. Edited February 18, 2020 by luckylager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: I think the concern that fans have is that Toffoli is going to be UFA after this season, the chances of him walking is, presumably, quite high. How are the Canucks going to afford his salary and cap hit? He's probably going to want to be paid quite handsomely. Generally players don't like bouncing around, and given the team's situation I think we'd be an enticing team to play for going forward. He gets to stay on the west coast, where he's played his entire NHL career. He gets to play on a up and coming team with great young players. The chances of him walking away are not as you say "quite high" imo. I'll let the team worry about re-signing him. As a fan I am excited to see this play out over the here and now. I trust he'll want to stay and will negotiate as such. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Outsiders said: Trade Sutter at deadline and try to recoup that 2nd rounder given up for Toffoli They ain’t doing that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, x00x said: Nice, i love toffoli , this is gonna be great , i dont mind losing madden , as we have alot of good prospects in our system as is, so for someone like toffoli ...its worth, and putting him with tannner again, gonna be epic In fact, Podkolzin, Goldobin, Bailey, Lind, Rafferty, Woo, Juolevi, Rathbone, Gadjovich, Brisebois, Höglander, MacEwen, Tryamkin, Chatfield, Graovac, Gaudette are all arguably better than Madden. Edited February 18, 2020 by Me_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 This is a way better deal then Tampa did yesterday?? Picked up Coleman 5'10, 28 3rd line centre - -- Tampa traded 2019 1st rounder and 2020 - 1st rounder.. This trade makes Vancouver better and a very solid 2nd line.. #3 rd line.. Lievo - Gaudette -- Virtanen --- Like the grit and speed and talent.. I like Madden but we have enough players his size... We will get some good draft picks back soon when we Decide on Markstrom or Demko this will be May 2020 - Return 1st rounder and good prospect Stetcher -- 3rd rounder in return... Lievo ---- 3rd rounder Sutter -- 3rd rounder 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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