Popular Post -DLC- Posted March 28, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 hour ago, GoCanucks16 said: Anyone with sense would rather live on the streets than in a hospital regardless of any "upgrades" to it. It's not a good life. In fact, it's highly inhumane to keep people locked away. I don't think anyone is at significantly more risk of "danger" as a result of the closing of Riverview and challenge you to prove your point. I never said anything about trials. It's inhumane to have people sleeping in tents in snow and rain. Rats and fires. Also - they put others at risk when they wander around untreated/unchecked. Many are incapable of being in that setting without proper treatment and meds. They're not fit to be wandering the streets without the proper monitoring. I do agree that locking people away is horrible....but, as said, with improvements there could be a better option. These people often don't have the luxury of good "sense" in the throes of mental health issues. So keeping them (and others) safe is important. 2 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 3 hours ago, gurn said: A very ill informed take. Wish to live somewhere they don't have trails? Feel free to move. Sounds like hell and not a walk in the park. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: Sounds like hell and not a walk in the park. Dyslexia is a pain in the sas. I'll go correct that thanks. Edited March 28, 2021 by gurn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, gurn said: Dyslexia is a pain in the sas. I'll go correct that thanks. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Buy up old properties, fix them up, make them into social housing. Part of the "rent" is you have to either clean up around the place, maintain it, or some way help out with the complex. Or failing that you have to commit to community service as part of the requirement. There's other ways too. Containers, converted to housing, may not be the most flashy places to live. But it keeps a roof over your head. And they can be made very comfortable. Getting people the help they need, be it psychological, drug related, or what have you. There is a small percentage of the population that is always going to need assistance. Is anyone doing studies with social work, and trying to find the sources that so many seem to be homeless now? It is basically even renting is expensive these days? Or so many places are getting bulldozed to make luxury condos, that people are getting pushed out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Caboose Posted March 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2021 I live across the street from this... Work in the mall where it happened. Any other day and I'd have been right there. Can't believe something like this could happen in my community. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 On topic: I feel for the individual’s friends and family who lost a loved one and of course the individual who lost their life from a senseless act of violence. I don’t expect an act like this in the lower Mainland, especially in N. Van. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Blankenship Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, Caboose said: I live across the street from this... Work in the mall where it happened. Any other day and I'd have been right there. Can't believe something like this could happen in my community. Same here. It’s been pretty devastating for the community. My parents were there when it all happened, heartbroken for the victims but thankful my family is safe. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, Caboose said: I live across the street from this... Work in the mall where it happened. Any other day and I'd have been right there. Can't believe something like this could happen in my community. Hate to tell you this, it can happen anywhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNucks1 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 anyone got updates on what set him off to do something like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, TNucks1 said: anyone got updates on what set him off to do something like that? I doubt motive will be released this early. No doubt some psychological breakdown occurred. I wonder what the trigger issue was. Employment? Relationship? Financial? Went off meds? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 4 hours ago, gurn said: B.C. used to have a hospital for the mentally ill, but the pproperty was worth a fortune. So they shut it down, moved every one out and sold the land. Turf every one into the community, then paid lip service, instead of actual money and programs, to expanding community help. Not at all correct. The Riverview Hospital was located on the Riverview lands. They can't be privately developed and they are building a new hospital there. The facility was closed because it was outdated and no longer funded. Back on topic, any info on the perpetrator? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Born and raised in north van. Grew up in this area (now live in deep cove 5 mins away) and even worked at Lynn Valley mall in my teens. Never would i have imagined this would happen in my neighbourhood. This world has become a scary place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 Quote The motive behind the attacks remain unknown. The suspect was known to police and had a criminal record, according to IHIT spokesman Sgt. Frank Jang. Shayla Dyson, a Vancouver resident who was eating at nearby Brown's Socialhouse in Lynn Valley Village, witnessed a woman – it's unknown if it's the same woman who has since died – walking with her child near the library when she was suddenly jumped by a man and stabbed, according to Dyson. “I immediately shoved one of my friends behind me so they didn’t have to watch it happen," said Dyson. The man then apparently left the scene before he was arrested by police. Brown's staff then brought the woman, along with her child, into the restaurant for safety. Dyson said the woman's child appeared to be physically unharmed. “He was covered in his mom’s blood," noted Dyson. https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/vancouver-news/serious-police-incident-in-lynn-valley-3582611 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Blankenship Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, taxi said: Not at all correct. The Riverview Hospital was located on the Riverview lands. They can't be privately developed and they are building a new hospital there. The facility was closed because it was outdated and no longer funded. Back on topic, any info on the perpetrator? I believe he’s in custody but can’t confirm 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNucks1 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Kenny Blankenship said: I believe he’s in custody but can’t confirm 100%. didnt he stab him self in the leg?, probs in the hospital Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCanucks16 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 2 hours ago, debluvscanucks said: It's inhumane to have people sleeping in tents in snow and rain. Rats and fires. Also - they put others at risk when they wander around untreated/unchecked. Many are incapable of being in that setting without proper treatment and meds. They're not fit to be wandering the streets without the proper monitoring. I do agree that locking people away is horrible....but, as said, with improvements there could be a better option. These people often don't have the luxury of good "sense" in the throes of mental health issues. So keeping them (and others) safe is important. I agree with your first sentence. Such people should be given housing. The fact remains that it's more humane to let people have their freedom even if they don't have shelter than to lock them away in some godforsaken facility. Involuntary hospitalization is a human rights issue. Most people with mental illness pose no risk to anyone else, and nobody deserves to be monitored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sp3nny Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 5 hours ago, debluvscanucks said: Reveal hidden contents Warning: some graphic footage of the alleged suspect as he's being apprehended. (Hint: he stabs himself in the leg) He slit his wrist, not stabbed his leg. Not that it matters, it was self harm either way. But just clarifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 4 hours ago, GoCanucks16 said: Anyone with sense would rather live on the streets than in a hospital regardless of any "upgrades" to it. It's not a good life. In fact, it's highly inhumane to keep people locked away. I don't think anyone is at significantly more risk of "danger" as a result of the closing of Riverview and challenge you to prove your point. I never said anything about trials. It wasn't a place for people with sense. We need mental health support more than ever these days. If they are a threat to themselves and/or the community, we can't have them living on the streets. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Blankenship Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, TNucks1 said: didnt he stab him self in the leg?, probs in the hospital Tried to slit his wrist but regardless I think he’s in custody. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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