wildcam Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 When Demko comes back and ready to play they will have 3 goalies.. Martin - 27 - 3.94 GAA - signed next season 1 way contract 750,000 Delia - 28 -- 2.94 GAA - UFA I think Martin will be put on waivers teams might not claim him with his contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogersTowell Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 4 hours ago, wildcam said: When Demko comes back and ready to play they will have 3 goalies.. Martin - 27 - 3.94 GAA - signed next season 1 way contract 750,000 Delia - 28 -- 2.94 GAA - UFA I think Martin will be put on waivers teams might not claim him with his contract? Nothing wrong with his contract. It's one way, but that only leaves out a team like Phoenix, who are saving money rather than cap space. A 750k contract can be completely buried in the minors. The real question is whether Martin would be picked up by a team that needs a goalie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 9 hours ago, RogersTowell said: Nothing wrong with his contract. It's one way, but that only leaves out a team like Phoenix, who are saving money rather than cap space. A 750k contract can be completely buried in the minors. The real question is whether Martin would be picked up by a team that needs a goalie. No matter which tender is sent to Abby they will help in the Calder run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ray_Cathode Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 So Spencer Martin gets sent to a team that doesn’t mind playing D, and is the first star. Maybe the Canuck problem is not the goalie, but the utterly pathetic team defence. Heck, let’s just say it, any team would be better without JB’s brilliant 7.2 mil signing of the D who can’t defend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 6 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said: So Spencer Martin gets sent to a team that doesn’t mind playing D, and is the first star. Maybe the Canuck problem is not the goalie, but the utterly pathetic team defence. Heck, let’s just say it, any team would be better without JB’s brilliant 7.2 mil signing of the D who can’t defend. OEL sits out most of the game last night and the Canucks are competitive. I am hoping he buys into what Toccett is selling but not convinced to date. Why would fans in Vancouver question why Martin and Delia would not start guessing about their games when the d-side is simply not there many nights. The shots come from everywhere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 44 minutes ago, Boudrias said: OEL sits out most of the game last night and the Canucks are competitive. I am hoping he buys into what Toccett is selling but not convinced to date. Why would fans in Vancouver question why Martin and Delia would not start guessing about their games when the d-side is simply not there many nights. The shots come from everywhere. Our owner needs to okay an OEL buyout this summer. And buyout Garland too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, Alflives said: Our owner needs to okay an OEL buyout this summer. And buyout Garland too. Geez Alf, I can see little interest in OEL but Garland should be tradeable. I actually don't have a serious problem carrying him into next year. I am more concerned about moving Boeser. He doesn't drive play and not strong on the d-side. Not sure what the market would be for either Boeser or Garland. Another 2 weeks will tell the tale. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 24 minutes ago, Alflives said: Our owner needs to okay an OEL buyout this summer. And buyout Garland too. Garland is worth more in a trade than Boeser will ever be. Why would they buy him out? This retention money is really going to bite for many years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 3 hours ago, johngould21 said: Garland is worth more in a trade than Boeser will ever be. Why would they buy him out? This retention money is really going to bite for many years. Sadly I don't see any resolution to the OEL problem, thank you JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 53 minutes ago, Fred65 said: Sadly I don't see any resolution to the OEL problem, thank you JB Yeah, they can't even retain $ to move him at this point. No team will take him without a high pick or grade A prospect. I think they will have to buy him out. Spreading out his cap over 8yrs, starting next season. It's the only way to unload that contract. Savings for the 1st four years and then $2.126 x 4yrs. It sucks, but at least we won't have to watch his rapid decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 It costs $2,416,667per season for the next 8 years = $19,333,333.Mr Aqualinni will not like to confront his own stupidity on the other hand OEL will like the idea of going home, sit on his a$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 7:10 AM, Alflives said: Our owner needs to okay an OEL buyout this summer. And buyout Garland too. I agree with an OEL buyout, but not Garland. OEL is a total disvalue, but Garland can still play. It’s expensive cap wise to buy guys out. Garland can probably be traded at some point, and it is not urgent yet. OEL is awful on the ice and costs us a lot of hockey games, and he is untradeable. He has a full no-trade and has insisted he will he will use it. The cap cost of an OEL buyout is as follows: 2023-24. 147k 2024-25. 2,347k 2025-26. 4,767k 2026-27. 4,767k 2027-28 2,127k 2028-29. 2,127k 2029-30. 2,127k 2029-30. 2,127k You really don’t want too much of that running off into the future, especially if you have to eat money (and cap) to shed additional contracts. OEL is a total liability, but Garland is not, at some point he will likely be tradeable. Adding Garland to the OEL buyout would be like paying for a top six contract for a player you don’t have. And we still need to re-sign Pettersson, which will be very expensive. 2025-26 and 2026-27 are going to be a squeeze as it is. I have concern (not wishing them any ill will) that Poolman or Pearson will play for us again - so we may be carrying a lot of LTIR. Demko’s recovery has also been set back, and that too is concerning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Spencer’s first game in Abby not looking good. Looks like his confidence and his game need a rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ray_Cathode Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 7:36 AM, johngould21 said: Garland is worth more in a trade than Boeser will ever be. Why would they buy him out? This retention money is really going to bite for many years. Not buying OEL out means 7.2 mil a year and we are stuck with the league’s worst +/- D. Better to buy him out, and use that slot in the lineup to bring on new young D’s Either of Wolanin or Brisebois are better. I like they way both of them comported themselves against Boston. But for a puck in Bear’s face, we might have pulled that one out - at last they are playing with structure. Love the way Colliton has brought on the young guys. Like the influence of Foote on the D in Van. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Great to see Spencer get his game back: 2-1 shootout where he nailed a sheet of plywood over the net in the shootout. That’ll admiration for the guy. All the best, Spencer Martin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 9 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said: Not buying OEL out means 7.2 mil a year and we are stuck with the league’s worst +/- D. Better to buy him out, and use that slot in the lineup to bring on new young D’s Either of Wolanin or Brisebois are better. I like they way both of them comported themselves against Boston. But for a puck in Bear’s face, we might have pulled that one out - at last they are playing with structure. Love the way Colliton has brought on the young guys. Like the influence of Foote on the D in Van. I was referring to buying out Garland and/or Boeser which made no sense to me. Those two can be traded even if for minimal assets. OEL not so much I would assume. But, you never know maybe an Eastern team will see some LTIR cap money on the horizon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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