CanucksJay Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: No Well Aquaman does care about money, team performance will be the leading indicator that will affect his bottom line when seats are empty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Timråfan Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: What is Jim waiting for? Until the Canucks are dead last? Til he drained the Canucks of future prospects and leaves for a ”better” job with the Sharks or the Flames? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, IBatch said: Me neither. Tick tock. I'm starting to think a full change is in order if these statements are accurate. Was in the coaches corner as long as he had the room ... doesn't look like that's the case anymore if this is true. Players that like their coach work their butts of in these conditions to keep them from being fired - in our case the record should be one or two games above .500 as the par line. Thought we played well enough to get things back on track, especially 5 x 5. But this is gone from not good to bad. Agree... this is really bad. If players come out and indicate they would like a change of coaches, the time is up for the coach... Different obviously had results been different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 minute ago, CanucksJay said: Well Aquaman does care about money, team performance will be the leading indicator that will affect his bottom line when seats are empty As long as they make the playoffs every few years, Aquilini seems fine with mediocrity though. And he is saving a lot of money on his bare bones and inexpensive front office yes men and budget coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckfanforlife82 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: What is Jim waiting for? Until the Canucks are dead last? This is what happens when you have a gm who is not a commanding leader. It just seems like this whole organization just doesn’t care. Makes it hard to be supportive of the team when ownership doesn’t hold anyone accountable. Everything is ok to them. Losing is ok. Just awful. He just doesn’t have any kind of connection to the fanbase. Apathy will set in. Edited November 15, 2021 by Canuckfanforlife82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajax- Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, Pure961089 said: How about our actual coach? Or is that too much work load for Green? What the hell is that supposed to mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 hours ago, wallstreetamigo said: If top NHL coaches don’t want to coach in Van there are only two reasons. 1. Ownership 2. Management 3.Fans with Pitchforks. Also, Burke said that it was all Canada not Vancouver. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Just now, wallstreetamigo said: As long as they make the playoffs every few years, Aquilini seems fine with mediocrity though. And he is saving a lot of money on his bare bones and inexpensive front office yes men and budget coaches. But one playoff round generates more revenue than his staff payroll. Personally I think meddling with Jake's draft pick, insisting on a "retool with the Sedins" and then the torts hire has made him gun shy as he doesn't want to set back the franchise any further.... This is time for JB to step up and show what he's made of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 hours ago, -DLC- said: Those thinking this is a power struggle between Bo and Miller, this quote was from yesterday: As for Hirsch....he may be on the plane/bus but he's not in the room. I've seen two reports about how it's off limits (Imac was outside the room during the broadcast...it's a no go zone). Again, frustration's bound to seep in and he may see some of that but it doesn't mean there's an issue. JT's obviously an alpha. Team needs that. https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/canucks-notebook-hobbling-miller-returning-motte-should-provide-inspiration Thanks Deb... Its important to nip these reports in the bud from the start... Hirsch should never be allowed access to the team again. Reports like these shouldn't only be some kind of hear say, where its up to the reader to interpret it , any which way they like... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, ShawnAntoski said: Thats my point, that is why Aquaman is ultimately the one who is responsible cause it is he who assembled the leadership of the team. Imo: he one bright side to the disastrous start to this season, is that, everyone from JB to players are all getting re evaluated and will Aquaman have the conviction to follow through (?). That is true, and it remains to be seen, how far down the line head will roll... be it from the GM or only further down the line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck-lifer Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Just fire Green already Not because he's a terrible coach, because they need a new voice behind the bench, a fresh perspective, and a new on ice system structure that the players can embrace and believe in. I remember when AV started with the Canucks and his first year he implemented a very defensive based system because he knew he didn't have the horses to drive offensive play. Once the Sedins and Co could drive play he adapted his style to match his roster. . Signs of an experienced coach that can adapt. Green doesn't seem to have the experience to adjust his coaching style to work with his roster it seems so time to move on 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Heretic said: Stats are skewed as they are trying to make up for the lack of defense! Garland said in one interview that it felt good to be on a stable line. That it had taken time to get to know where his new line mates would be. That the first few games with Pearson and Horvat felt forced. He was the changed to a different line. Then, he was benched for bad play. Then, he got blended to a different line with Dickenson and Podz. Then, as Podz and Garland were showing great chemistry, Green blended the lines again. Horvat - Podz - Garland and they disappeared even though the previous game that was proven and I pointed it out to many posters here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajax- Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 37 minutes ago, CanucksJay said: Your point is still irrelevant. Majority of us here are saying the defensive woes exist because of the inept coaching staff who deploy poor strategies that don't fit this team. Case in point is Schmidt who came highly touted, struggled last year and got the hell out of Dodge and waived to go to Winnipeg of all places just to get away from Green's system. He has bounced back and is having the year we expected from him last year. To me, that's on the coaching staff. Please explain hockey systems? Can you? Green's system? Please tell us what and how poor strategies are? re strategies and systems the same? Can any of you CDC experts explain a simple hockey system? And yet it's your favorite word? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, FaninMex said: 3.Fans with Pitchforks. Also, Burke said that it was all Canada not Vancouver. 4. Horrible media coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, FaninMex said: 3.Fans with Pitchforks. Also, Burke said that it was all Canada not Vancouver. No coach I know cares much about what fans think. Nor would they decide not to coach somewhere based on them. Like any job, they care about the environment they will be working in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Just now, higgyfan said: 4. Horrible media coverage. Same as above. Coaches don’t care about media coverage when deciding on a job. They know it is part of the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ajax- said: Please explain hockey systems? Can you? Green's system? Please tell us what and how poor strategies are? re strategies and systems the same? Can any of you CDC experts explain a simple hockey system? And yet it's your favorite word? Preseason, Green had Lockwood and DiGuesppe forechecking and puching both D men at the same time as they had speed to burn. This was causing bad passes and all sorts of trouble for teams. Then, he sent them both to the AHL and went to a more passive D with players in the neutral zone. Systems? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: No coach I know cares much about what fans think. Nor would they decide not to coach somewhere based on them. Like any job, they care about the environment they will be working in. Burke said the quote, you are misusing it. If you have a complaint, take it up with him. Everyone cares. Look at the idiots that were stalking Benning. Think that is a Canucks thing? 4. Media with pitchforks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajax- Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, FaninMex said: Preseason, Green had Lockwood and DiGuesppe forechecking and puching both D men at the same time as they had speed to burn. This was causing bad passes and all sorts of trouble for teams. Then, he sent them both to the AHL and went to a more passive D with players in the neutral zone. Systems? There are a variety of hockey defensive systems, primarily related to how the defense positions itself, and each player’s responsibilities within those defensive schemes. Two of the more common defensive systems are the 2-1-2 and the 1-2-2. In the 2-1-2, two defenders will be out front at the top of the circles working to push the offensive play to either side. The two players near the goal line will defend the goal and attack the puck in the corner on their side. The center of this scheme is a supportive position that fills in gaps and assists the others. In the 1-2-2, a point defender chases the puck side to side and harasses the player with the puck to try to force bad passes or steal the puck. The back four defenders play a box to keep the puck out of the center of the ice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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