aGENT Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, DeNiro said: That’s why you stay away from free agency. That’s where teams make their biggest mistakes. If there’s holes on the roster you fill them through drafting or trade. Signing guys like Copp or Mikayev long term is simply repeating the mistakes that got this team where it is. Cap space needs to be protected as your most valuable asset. Keep it open and accessible for when a real opportunity opens up that helps your team reach the next level. I dunno, if we're trade out Garland for futures and sign Mikayev to replace him... I'd be ok with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydzik Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 22 minutes ago, Mustard Tiger said: You don't improve by adding multi million dollar 3rd pair guys yearly Go check stats before you chirp on zadarov takeaways shots against scoring chances against been near top every year he plays please do your research 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Just now, aGENT said: I dunno, if we're trade out Garland for futures and sign Mikayev to replace him... I'd be ok with that I dunno I think that would be a mistake. Garland seriously gets undervalued here. He put up 52 points in 77 games despite a poor start. A full season under Boudreau and he could easily be a 70 point player. Can we really afford to trade that kind of value contract? If they trade Miller and Garland that’s a lot of offense being taken off the roster that you’re not likely to replace any time soon. I doubt they trade both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, JM_ said: Seriously though. If we're simply not going to get a "Schneider" (and LAK's version in Faber is already gone so the options are dwindling), who would CDC prefer? Lundkvist or Marino... Almost wonder if I should start a pole 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydzik Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 The more I watch this player more I know he would fit perfect with hughes. Topi Niemela. jt miller to leafs Kamf Holl Niemela 2023 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, DeNiro said: I dunno I think that would be a mistake. Garland seriously gets undervalued here. He put up 52 points in 77 games despite a poor start. A full season under Boudreau and he could easily be a 70 point player. Can we really afford to trade that kind of value contract? If they trade Miller and Garland that’s a lot of offense being taken off the roster that you’re not likely to replace any time soon. I doubt they trade both. But again, I did just replace it. With Mikayev. Nothing against Garland, I quite like him as a player and he's certainly productive. But I'm not sure he's a fit in this roster, particularly if we're keeping the cheaper Hoglander. We could get actual value for him in trade for a team that already has more size in their lineup and get a better fitting player here. Roughly similar production, roughly similar cap... And we gain futures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, aGENT said: Seriously though. If we're simply not going to get a "Schneider" (and LAK's version in Faber is already gone so the options are dwindling), who would CDC prefer? Lundkvist or Marino... Almost wonder if I should start a pole If we can’t acquire the D man that we want then you don’t make the trade. No need to be making trades out of desperation. If that perfect Hughes partner isn’t available now we wait until next offseason. That decision is crucial and needs to be a long term solution and not just based on who happens to be available at the current moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Podkolzin - Pettersson - Boeser Kuzmenko - Horvat - Kakko Would this be enough offence? It is a young, skilled Top 6. I wonder if a deal could still be made with the Rangers, and whether Kakko fits into their plans. They could re-sign and trade. Team needs a RD though. The Canucks don't seem interested in picks coming back, they want young players. Kakko K. Miller (Hughes plays RD) or Kakko Schneider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, aGENT said: Seriously though. If we're simply not going to get a "Schneider" (and LAK's version in Faber is already gone so the options are dwindling), who would CDC prefer? Lundkvist or Marino... Almost wonder if I should start a pole LA still has my favourite potential Q partner in Brandt Clarke. Just don’t think they would be that interested in JTM now as anything other than a rental. Oh and Marino, he is established as a top 4 in NHL, had good underlying numbers and Lundkvist is kind of just more of what we have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rocket Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, Scottydzik said: Go check stats before you chirp on zadarov takeaways shots against scoring chances against been near top every year he plays please do your research Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Just now, NUCKER67 said: Podkolzin - Pettersson - Boeser Kuzmenko - Horvat - Kakko Would this be enough offence? It is a young, skilled Top 6. I wonder if a deal could still be made with the Rangers, and whether Kakko fits into their plans. They could re-sign and trade. Team needs a RD though. The Canucks don't seem interested in picks coming back, they want young players. Kakko K. Miller (Hughes plays RD) or Kakko Schneider Kakko and K’Andre all day but that would put us in cap Hell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, aGENT said: But again, I did just replace it. With Mikayev. Nothing against Garland, I quite like him as a player and he's certainly productive. But I'm not sure he's a fit in this roster, particularly if we're keeping the cheaper Hoglander. We could get actual value for him in trade for a team that already has more size in their lineup and get a better fitting player here. Roughly similar production, roughly similar cap... And we gain futures. Not even close to similar production and you’re gonna be paying just as much. Garland has been a consistent 40-50 point producer the last three seasons while Mikayev just broke out last season. You’re also hoping that he can score as much on a weaker offensive team. Hard pass for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydzik Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Just now, The_Rocket said: So that would be awful for 3 mil better then probably every d on our team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rocket Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Scottydzik said: So that would be awful for 3 mil better then probably every d on our team You think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydzik Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 1 minute ago, The_Rocket said: You think? He ranked top 10 in shots and scoring chances against well being plus 11 and top in 10 hits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Scottydzik said: So that would be awful for 3 mil better then probably every d on our team Zadorov is slow as cold molasses. We shouldn’t (IMHAO) go anywhere near him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydzik Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: Zadorov is slow as cold molasses. We shouldn’t (IMHAO) go anywhere near him. He played with gudbranson all year and that might of been there best pairing on best defensive team in nhl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: LA still has my favourite potential Q partner in Brandt Clarke. Just don’t think they would be that interested in JTM now as anything other than a rental. Oh and Marino, he is established as a top 4 in NHL, had good underlying numbers and Lundkvist is kind of just more of what we have. I just can’t accept trading the best powerforward we’ve had since Bert for a Tanev lite. It doesn’t make sense. We can’t be making desperation moves to fix past managements failures. Get a high pick or a prospect with huge upside or don’t bother. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBossy Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 I know we are dying for RD - what about Carson Soucy or Hayden Fleury from Seattle? Not sure what it takes to get either of them but then move Miller for a 1st rounder and help up front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DeNiro said: I just can’t accept trading the best powerforward we’ve had since Bert for a Tanev lite. It doesn’t make sense. We can’t be making desperation moves to fix past managements failures. Get a high pick or a prospect with huge upside or don’t bother. Brandt Clarke is exactly that. As far as Marino, a High upside like a mid 20s top 4 d-man with good underlying numbers because that is what Marino is. Presumably the package would be more than Marino. We was answering the OPs question of Lundkvist vs Marino and I don’t consider Lundkvist that high end a prospect, decent yeah but no Clarke. Edited July 3, 2022 by DrJockitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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