Off_The_Schneid! Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) Kravtsof a 1st + ? anyone want to shed some thoughts on Kravtsof? Edited February 9, 2022 by Off_The_Schneid! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) The big decisions are coming soon. David Pagnotta said on 650 that the Canucks management group will all meet together for the first time soon and make decisions on the direction of the team. They're also gonna contact players soon and discuss what the future looks like. Rangers have already fielded an offer for Miller that the Canucks are supposedly sitting on. Supposedly names thrown around are Kravtsov, a 1st +++ (Pagnotta said it was bigger deal than suggested, 3 pieces at least). Also a lot of speculation about Boeser and his next contract. Some suggest that a 1 year show me deal would probably be best for the player and the team. Edited February 9, 2022 by Junkyard Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Provost Posted February 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) I love how everyone is confident any BC player wants to play here… but also that any non-BC player really wants to be here and not close to home or in their own country. I think Linden and the Sedins spoiled folks in regards to adopting Vancouver as their hometown. Nothing has indicated Miller wants to sign a hometown discount in terms of term and salary to stay here. That is the only scenario that actually makes sense for where our team is at, so all the bloviating about whether he likes Vancouver or not is meaningless. We are not in a situation where we can sign a 30 year old to a 6-8 year contract worth $8-9 million per year. That will be his market rate and he should be able to even get that from a team closer to winning the Cup than we are. We are also not even allowed to extend him until the summer, so we have to make a decision on whether we can maximize his value by trading him before this trade deadline without that option on the table. Edited February 9, 2022 by Provost 1 1 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Canucks need to clear cap and they'd like to acquire picks and prospects/young players. Assuming none of the top players get traded, and they keep their young players: What could they get for Myers, Pearson, Motte, Chiasson, Dickinson and Highmore? Maybe a package to acquire a Dman and #3C? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 40 minutes ago, grandmaster said: The Canucks are not going to trade Miller while they are still in the hunt. There is almost half the season that remains and folks like you have written this team off. You sir are a terrible fan. What a absolutely terrible take this is. Having a different opinion on how the team should improve doesn't make someone a terrible fan. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: Kravtsof a 1st + ? anyone want to shed some thoughts on Kravtsof? Kravstov is a positive peice of work, big, full toolbox skill wise.. but needs to age well with good leadership. Haa already openly asked for a trade,. Perhaps he still comes in one that does not involve Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 54 minutes ago, HKSR said: Fringe players can be replaced by ELCs a lot easier than a PPG power forward 1C that plays PK and PP. Sonon your scenario, miller will sign for Petey money and be super happy that he's surrounded by the cheapest possible support players they can get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Shayster007 said: What a absolutely terrible take this is. Having a different opinion on how the team should improve doesn't make someone a terrible fan. A good fan cheers for their team to win, not lose. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 This from a leader, whom I’m sure would have loved to play with Miller here.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, SilentSam said: Kravstov is a positive peice of work, big, full toolbox skill wise.. but needs to age well with good leadership. Haa already openly asked for a trade,. Perhaps he still comes in one that does not involve Miller. Pod's new buddy? VAN would be a good place for Kravtsov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Just now, SilentSam said: This from a leader, whom I’m sure would have loved to play with Miller here.. Gold 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Just now, NUCKER67 said: Pod's new buddy? VAN would be a good place for Kravtsov I think they have history? I know Podz used to play with Trenin (preds) another beauty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 minute ago, grandmaster said: Gold No no... the fans on CDC know better. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, SilentSam said: Kravstov is a positive peice of work, big, full toolbox skill wise.. but needs to age well with good leadership. Haa already openly asked for a trade,. Perhaps he still comes in one that does not involve Miller. No way he is a main piece of a trade. He is nothing more than a sweetener really at this point. If it was Schneider, a 1st, and Kravtsov for Miller and Poolman… I do that deal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, SilentSam said: This from a leader, whom I’m sure would have loved to play with Miller here.. Good old Juice, pumping up Miller’s trade value for us!!! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Just now, Provost said: Good old Juice, pumping up Miller’s trade value for us!!! Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Just now, Provost said: Good old Juice, pumping up Miller’s trade value for us!!! That also tells me there's lots of chatter out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, grandmaster said: A good fan cheers for their team to win, not lose. The post didn't say anything about wanting to lose or throw games. Only expressed a view you didn't agree with, which according to you diminishes their value as a fan. By your logic every single team that has ever sold at the trade deadline is a terrible franchise and hates their team. Which I think is pretty stupid way of looking at things. Some people are able to seperate the real world with unrealistic expectations and emotions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Provost said: No way he is a main piece of a trade. He is nothing more than a sweetener really at this point. If it was Schneider, a 1st, and Kravtsov for Miller and Poolman… I do that deal Pagnotta stated that the supposed offer from the Rangers was at least 3 pieces but suggested it could be a bit bigger. The pieces names/assets he heard thrown around were Kravtsov and a 1st, he didn't know what else beyond that. He said the Canucks are sitting on it and that the entire management team is gonna meet soon for the first time together to discuss the plans moving forward and eventually talk to the players as well in regards to the plans. They also talked about Boeser's situation and how a 1 year show me deal might be better for him and the team. Also Vegas' upcoming cap situation and how they might look to move Reilly Smith pretty soon to get ahead of the deadline. Edited February 9, 2022 by Junkyard Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 hour ago, SilentSam said: I don’t see Miller as that selfish.. I think he takes pride in his leadership qualities with this team.. it not only motivates others , it motivates himself. Sometimes, the grass seems greener on the other side.. but is it really? I think he is a lot more selfish than Petey. 1 hour ago, HKSR said: Fringe players can be replaced by ELCs a lot easier than a PPG power forward 1C that plays PK and PP. The ELC player isn’t replacing the PPG forward. He gives the GM a lot more space to steer the ship right. Remember that it’s meant Petey is the PPG forward 1C. Horvat is quite capable 2C Both works really well in playoffs. Horvat par example held of most of the leagues best players with Loui and Pearson as wingers. That should be remembered as bad Loui is considered to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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