rekker Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 2 hours ago, IBatch said: Edler. And he's almost retired. Yip Edler. 17 years ago he was drafted. You could book end Edler and Hughes as benchmarks. Not a lot in between. Asterix for Luc. RIP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, hammertime said: This doesn't make any sense you'd prefer to sell even lower on Boeser after signing him to a contract he ain't worth? Team friendly terms? For me its 6m or C ya. He's worth +/-$6.5. Him under (a reasonable) contract is worth more than him not under contract, with a $7.5 QO. 5 hours ago, stawns said: Or he continues to decline and you get nothing for him. I'd rather just cut bait and move on He hasn't declined. Inconsistent... Sure. Again, I'm fine if management moves him for a different skill set etc. But this concept that he's not worth it, is 'declining' or has more value now, is silly talk. Edited February 21, 2022 by aGENT 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, aGENT said: He's worth +/-$6.5. Him under (a reasonable) contract is worth more than him not under contract, with a $7.5 QO. He hasn't declined. Inconsistent... Sure. Again, I'm fine if management moves him for a different skill set etc. But this concept that he's not worth it, is 'declining' or has more value now, is silly talk. 8 years and 50 million would be a great deal for us and for Boeser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 We shouldn't expect Rutherford and Allvin to trade Boeser just because they want speed. They want speed and skill, and Boeser is very skilled. If he gets traded now, it will be because he's an RFA at the end of the season, and is commanding a $7.5M qualifying offer. Boeser seems like the kind of guy who will want to sign a long term team-friendly contract. He's only 24, so a 7 or 8 year deal is not as much of a risk as it usually is. With how bad our power play is at gaining the zone and scoring, we shouldn't be in a rush to trade one of our savviest man advantage guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Nave said: Boeser is very skilled. Not sure about that, but he has a good shot though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Not sure about that, but he has a good shot though He has a goal scorer's instincts and quick release; is an underrated playmaker and low key one of the best in the league at winning board battles. How is he not skilled? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, Nave said: He has a goal scorer's instincts and quick release; is an underrated playmaker and low key one of the best in the league at winning board battles. How is he not skilled? I like Boeser for his shot, knows how to find the open space to be able to shoot. But one of the best in the league at board battles? Mrs Boeser, is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, rekker said: I like Boeser for his shot, knows how to find the open space to be able to shoot. But one of the best in the league at board battles? Mrs Boeser, is that you? Boeser is one of the slowest and physically weak forwards in the league. Not sure what nave is smokin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzam Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 42 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Not sure about that, but he has a good shot though Good shot? This is not his rookie season. Shot is so bad he plays the guy in front of the net now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Nave said: He has a goal scorer's instincts and quick release; is an underrated playmaker and low key one of the best in the league at winning board battles. How is he not skilled? Can't seem to find this board battle stat people keep referring to. All I can find is this tweet by Jfresh last year. So Brock for every 40 puck battles won 21 I wouldn't call it a huge edge. Is there a stat that shows the number of puck battles in which a player involved themselves. I would wager he would be in the bottom half of the league in this metric. Edited February 21, 2022 by hammertime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, hammertime said: Can't seem to find this board battle stat people keep referring to. All I can find is this tweet by Jfresh last year. So Brock for every 40 puck battles won 21 I wouldn't call it a huge edge. I agree, but if these stats have Matthews at number two, something is off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyotasfan Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Boeser + ________ to New Jersey for Pavel Zacha and Luke Hughes. That blank could be Garland but New Jersey has to add a high pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 28 minutes ago, hammertime said: Can't seem to find this board battle stat people keep referring to. All I can find is this tweet by Jfresh last year. Yeah that's what I was referring to. He still wins more puck battles than not going against big defensemen much of the time. Maybe I was being too hyperbolic, but it's an interesting stat and I wouldn't have guessed. To Rekker's point though, it's weird that Matthews is #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Toyotasfan said: Boeser + ________ to New Jersey for Pavel Zacha and Luke Hughes. That blank could be Garland but New Jersey has to add a high pick. There's no way the Devils would ever trade Luke Hughes. They have already committed so much to Jack, and Luke is developing really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyotasfan Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Nave said: There's no way the Devils would ever trade Luke Hughes. They have already committed so much to Jack, and Luke is developing really well. I agree with you, I think there’s something to this rumour , your standpoint is what the Devils are saying, mine is what Vancouver wants, they have some other prospects in Jersey that might make this happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Nave said: Yeah that's what I was referring to. He still wins more puck battles than not going against big defensemen much of the time. Maybe I was being too hyperbolic, but it's an interesting stat and I wouldn't have guessed. To Rekker's point though, it's weird that Matthews is #2. Some players (Matthews for one) choose their puck battles, when it’s to their advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Toyotasfan said: I agree with you, I think there’s something to this rumour , your standpoint is what the Devils are saying, mine is what Vancouver wants, they have some other prospects in Jersey that might make this happen. I definitely buy that the Devils are interested in Boeser... Boeser with Jack Hughes would be sick. They don't really have a sniper that they could pair with Hughes, other than some guys that are in the system and not ready to be called up yet. They'd probably pay a lot to get Boeser. As a Devils fan 2nd and a Canucks fan 1st, I would love to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: Some players (Matthews for one) choose their puck battles, when it’s to their advantage. Yeah that makes sense. I definitely remembered the graph wrong--thought it was board battles and not puck battles, and thought Boeser was top 10 not top 15. Still pretty interesting though. Boeser is definitely an opportunistic player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 I would offer Boeser 6m x 6yrs. Would take him to his age 30/31 season then be a UFA who could still cash in a high salary short to mid term contract if he does become a 40g scorer and nears ppg and relatively injury free for the above contract I proposed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassbs Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 61 pages of rumours. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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