dm_ranger Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 35 minutes ago, Boudrias said: The Bouds Boudreau honeymoon lasts for how long? I love his openness and willingness to talk hockey. He has been hired 3x and fired 3X before. I doubt there is much he hasn’t seen in the game. His statement that his decisions are always based on what is best for the team stays with me. Look at how he spread the TOI out last night. Pretty damn even as any team building towards contention should be. Uneven ice time tells players how maybe their efforts aren’t valued. The only player with extended ice was Hughes. The only 2 players on the team that are playing like top ranked players are Hughes and Demko. A lot of solid performances last night. I thought Dickenson had one of his best games as a Canuck. Releasing the hounds to chase the puck to an extent worked. LA was kinda of listless so I don’t build to much into the win. Just a much better effort which has been building for 3 weeks now. I believe he has a habit of running this top players a lot. I like the spread out TOI among the roster, but I think that was because he was still learning their names. (during the press report afterwards he couldn't even remember one of the goal scorers names) This first 7-10 days is an evaluation of who he has so I expect him to roll 4 lines a fair amount. Then he will start to focus the playing time more onto the players he likes and trusts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NHL97OneTimer Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 9 hours ago, Gatzkek said: I think he knows hockey and what we need. If he GMs like he played, I'm for it. But maybe I'm wrong. Is there something besides his eloquence that makes him "not the guy". I just don't think he's the guy he was on the ice. Listening to him in the interview, I couldn't decide if he's in his 80s yet or not. Very slow spoken and without a vision. He spoke about how he thought it was time to move on based on what he was hearing from the fans but he didn't state what was wrong with the team construct or management. He's dutifully buying the owner time to find the right GM, so I applaud him for that. Tough to take the team on with a row of empty offices. But, it's pretty clear from hearing him talk that he won't be the long-term guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaGuy Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Ghostsof1915 said: I still want to know, what was Green's system? Because after seeing how the team played last night, it looks like Green didn't have a system. Ask @stawns. He is the leading authority on the subject, in his humble opinion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 31 minutes ago, mll said: Thanks - think I found it. Did a search on twitter using "canucks puck possession" and someone posted a Sportsnet screen grab that shows them 2nd in o-zone puck possession time but with 5.4 shots from the inner slot per game while the other 4 teams ranked are between 7.1 and 8.4 (EDM, TOR, MIN, COL). Not sure if 5v5 or all situations. Thanks, so maybe not quite what I first thought re 5on5. Though even the o-zone time stat caught me by surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbandalo Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I’ve been pleading for Boudreau as our coach since before Green was extended. Love to say “I told you so”. Glad Benning is gone too. About time!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 9 hours ago, Patel Bure said: On a game related positive note...... God damn I love Boudreau! That's a world class kick ass coach right there. I personally would have gone with Claude Julien but I'm really glad that we didn't. Yup, I was even open to guys like Babcock but so glad we went with a players coach. Not only do we need an experienced, knowledagble coach, the guys are fragile right now and need a guy who is willing to be in their corner and build them back up. The fist bumps down the hall after the game by Boudreau is just what this team needs. A coach who is one of the guys. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 48 minutes ago, J-Dizzle said: While I could take it or leave it…. It does give you a pretty quick indication of who came to camp in shape. So that could be two things….. It actually has no real usefulness as an indicator of physical fitness. Teams pay hundreds of thousands of dollars on actual fitness testing. All Green has to do is look at the reports. Are you suggesting that Garland was in bad physical shape coming into camp? He puked ffs. And has shown he has the biggest never quit motor on the entire team. Bag skates aren’t about fitness, they are about asserting control. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CanucksJay Posted December 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, JoshuaGuy said: Ask @stawns. He is the leading authority on the subject, in his humble opinion. I think it might be called it high event hockey. All the shots we allowed were by design. It was meant to keep them shooting from the outside and letting Demko make the saves but then it turned into Swiss cheese D as we also allowed cross seam passes and shots from high danger scoring areas too. Literally reminded me of a turtle going into its shell.. Loved how our D stepped up and challenged at our blue line while our forwards got on their horse and provided back pressure. Loved the aggressive forecheck by our forwards leading to multiple turnovers and a goal by Lammiko. He also hit a post last night. In fact I think we hit a few posts / crossbar. I think we even generated some short handed opps. Love how BB doesn't just follow the 80s hockey manual. He put Petey on the PK! While TG went with guys like Petan, Di Giuseppe, Chiasson Lammiko Dowling pre season because he can only think one dimensionally in terms of PK and bottom 6 roles, BB realizes that speed and skill also help the PK. If Petterson is pressuring the D at the point, there is more likelihood that they will fumble the puck and give up a short handed opportunity OR give away puck possession. We had zero element or threat on the PK so the opposing PP took their time against our passive box, passed it around, found seams and exposed us. Like how on earth do you have a PK in the 60% 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Bag skates aren’t about fitness, they are about asserting control. seems to me it was more of an attempt at a team building exercise. Doing the Grouse Grind would work just as well. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 minute ago, JM_ said: seems to me it was more of an attempt at a team building exercise. Doing the Grouse Grind would work just as well. It’s a punishment. Nothing more. Never seen a team come together as a group because they got bag skates. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Just now, wallstreetamigo said: It’s a punishment. Nothing more. Never seen a team come together as a group because they got bag skates. what was Green punishing them for? coming to camp? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: It actually has no real usefulness as an indicator of physical fitness. Teams pay hundreds of thousands of dollars on actual fitness testing. All Green has to do is look at the reports. Are you suggesting that Garland was in bad physical shape coming into camp? He puked ffs. And has shown he has the biggest never quit motor on the entire team. Bag skates aren’t about fitness, they are about asserting control. I can almost agree with you. But trying to assume what’s going on in someone else’s head is a dangerous game. The previous coaching staff may have seen different uses for it. Maybe they viewed it as tradition and something to put the team together in a forced bonding scenario. You and I would both agree from the sounds of it that such a view would be correct or overly useful, but it would be an example of a motive that wasn’t born out of asserting control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Devron44 said: Yeah I saw the same one. They were actually 2nd In the league. Maybe it was the Montreal game or the one before that Currently 11th at 5 on 5 .... https://www.naturalstattrick.com/teamtable.php 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 minute ago, JM_ said: what was Green punishing them for? coming to camp? Who knows with that clown. Insecure coaches use bag skates. Confident coaches use communication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 minute ago, J-Dizzle said: I can almost agree with you. But trying to assume what’s going on in someone else’s head is a dangerous game. The previous coaching staff may have seen different uses for it. Maybe they viewed it as tradition and something to put the team together in a forced bonding scenario. You and I would both agree from the sounds of it that such a view would be correct or overly useful, but it would be an example of a motive that wasn’t born out of asserting control. Maybe. I am one of those coaches who don’t think bag skates are ever a morale building exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Who knows with that clown. Insecure coaches use bag skates. Confident coaches use communication. well, its in the Canucks lore category now. Still a bit shocked at the red wedding move by Aqua but man what a nice change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: It’s a punishment. Nothing more. Never seen a team come together as a group because they got bag skates. 6 minutes ago, JM_ said: what was Green punishing them for? coming to camp? 3 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Who knows with that clown. Insecure coaches use bag skates. Confident coaches use communication. 1 minute ago, wallstreetamigo said: Maybe. I am one of those coaches who don’t think bag skates are ever a morale building exercise. @JM_ we would probably both do best to recognize @wallstreetamigo’s superior intuition and intricate knowledge of the human psyche. It is very clear that, and I can’t believe we missed this, any action that does not align with those that @wallstreetamigoholds as laudable must stem from some sort of dubious motivation. Therefor, we should concede that bag skates can only ever stem from a place of insecurity and could never have any other root explanation. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucklefuts Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 2 hours ago, tas said: it was never designed to; it was designed to test their fitness level. It's not designed for anything but to deteriorate a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, J-Dizzle said: @JM_ we would probably both do best to recognize @wallstreetamigo’s superior intuition and intricate knowledge of the human psyche. It is very clear that, and I can’t believe we missed this, any action that does not align with those that @wallstreetamigoholds as laudable must stem from some sort of dubious motivation. Therefor, we should concede that bag skates can only ever stem from a place of insecurity and could never have any other root explanation. oh, I've had my fights with amigo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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