HighOnHockey Posted June 14, 2023 Author Share Posted June 14, 2023 14 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Podz hasn’t even shown he can be a regular in the lineup in the regular season let alone win battles in the playoffs. Caufield put up 12 points in the playoffs in his first season on the way to the finals. Comparing the two is silly. Caufield has way more value than Podz and was a miss by management. That doesn’t mean Podz can’t be a good role player for us but there’s no debate on who the better player is. - Thus spoke DeNiro about a player who is still 21... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 2 hours ago, spook007 said: Cheers amigo. That's another 4 years. Are we really willing to wait that long with Petey, QH and Demko? Or more importantly are they willing to wait? Not saying you are wrong, but if this is the case, then signing Hronek now doesn't make any sense at all. Might as well just let us sink to the bottom and cash in on Petey and Demko and start a total rebild. Unless we some how get a Calsson or Fantilly to replace Miller, I don't see us getting rid of Miller. To me at least it looks like the future is to push for play offs at all costs, and see if Petey, Miller, Demko and QH are able to carry the team into the play offs. They definitely need to find out now, if they are the future or not. For myself yes if I we're running the team I would operate like Petey and Hughes are going to be here long term and our best chances will probably be in 2-4 years. Once the crap cap is off the books we will have a legit chance to compete on an even playing field with other teams. It will also give time for our top prospects to mature. I wouldn't make poor near sighted decisions to suit the possible wishes of two young players who are under contract. If at some point either of them don't like the direction and want out I'd deal with it then and take a high price in return. I think that's the only way to run a team. You have to build together with every one pulling their share without cutting corners and minimizing overall team strength. We'll see if it's playoffs or bust this year. Realistically I think that approach would be the wrong one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 21 minutes ago, HighOnHockey said: - Thus spoke DeNiro about a player who is still 21... Caufield is the same age and tearing up the league… Whats the argument? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Caufield is the same age and tearing up the league… Whats the argument? Is he tearing the league up? I mean hes been impressive dont get me wrong. But he hasn't played a full season yet, he hasn't even hit 50 pts and hes already had brutal shoulder injuries and surgery. His contract would scare me TBH If he was a knack and we signed that deal. I like betting on talent but lets not talk about Caufield like hes a sure thing super star here. IT is still projection. Boeser at a similar time in his career we projected safely and it hasn't gone that way. Caufield could very well have a similar experience. And shoulder injuries have a way of coming back. And when hes the size he is I wouldn't feel som confident in his long term durability. Just my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 17 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Caufield is the same age and tearing up the league… Whats the argument? Opportunity and coaching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 minute ago, R3aL said: Is he tearing the league up? I mean hes been impressive dont get me wrong. But he hasn't played a full season yet, he hasn't even hit 50 pts and hes already had brutal shoulder injuries and surgery. His contract would scare me TBH If he was a knack and we signed that deal. I like betting on talent but lets not talk about Caufield like hes a sure thing super star here. IT is still projection. Boeser at a similar time in his career we projected safely and it hasn't gone that way. Caufield could very well have a similar experience. And shoulder injuries have a way of coming back. And when hes the size he is I wouldn't feel som confident in his long term durability. Just my opinion. Caufield is one of the most overrated young players in the league, imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Bure_Pavel said: My 1st Round Mock Draft ROUND 1 TEAM ORIGINAL PLAYER DETAILS 1 - Connor Bedard 2 - Adam Fantilli 3 - Leo Carlsson 4 - Will Smith 5 - David Reinbacher 6 - Matvei Michkov 7 - Ryan Leonard 8 - Dalibor Dvorsky 9 - Matthew Wood 10 - Oliver Moore 11 - Axel Sandin Pellikka 12 Zach Benson 13 - Eduard Sale 14 - Colby Barlow 15 - Nate Danielson 16 - Brayden Yager 17 Tom Willander 18 - Gabe Perreault 19 Samuel Honzek 20 - Calum Ritchie 21 - Dmitri Simashev 22 Andrew Cristall 23 - Mikhail Gulyayev 24 Otto Stenberg 25 Lukas Dragicevic 26 Riley Heidt 27 - Quentin Musty 28 Charlie Stramel 29 Daniil But 30 - Kasper Halttunen 31 David Edstrom 32 - Oliver Bonk Nice list. The graphics were also appreciated. Can't wait for Willander to win the Norris for Detroit with out old Isles pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, R3aL said: Is he tearing the league up? I mean hes been impressive dont get me wrong. But he hasn't played a full season yet, he hasn't even hit 50 pts and hes already had brutal shoulder injuries and surgery. His contract would scare me TBH If he was a knack and we signed that deal. I like betting on talent but lets not talk about Caufield like hes a sure thing super star here. IT is still projection. Boeser at a similar time in his career we projected safely and it hasn't gone that way. Caufield could very well have a similar experience. And shoulder injuries have a way of coming back. And when hes the size he is I wouldn't feel som confident in his long term durability. Just my opinion. He has like 45 goals in his last 82 games or something. So yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Eichel deserves the Conn Smythe imo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said: Eichel deserves the Conn Smythe imo. Take the whole Eichel/McDavid thing to a whole new level, heh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said: Eichel deserves the Conn Smythe imo. Sorry wrong thread. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said: Eichel deserves the Conn Smythe imo. Yup. He’s showing McDavid it takes sacrifice of offence to play the right way without the puck to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Just now, Herberts Vasiljevs said: Sorry wrong thread. And old drunk Alf replied! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 10 hours ago, eeeeergh said: Why do we need to hit on every pick when the salary cap era means that there’s a constant flow of good players available for free or dirt cheap (asset wise) via UFA or trade with teams that need to unload cap? Better off shooting for the stars and trying to draft a special player that no team in their right mind woule trade away, without it costing an absolute haul Why do we need to hit on every pick when we can just over pay for free agents and then complain about it only to larger rinse and repeat every time we get any small amount of cap space? We don't have any assets or cap space to enjoy this constant flow of good players available at any time and haven't since about 2009 This makes every pick we have literally invaluable as we need quality players in ELC and bridge contracts 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Isam said: It will be interesting on the contract situation with him, but I would imagine teams would want to get him over here as soon as possible Yea for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Bure_Pavel said: Yeah I'm higher than most on Wood, I think the skill, size, shot package is very enticing. He also just seems like the kinda guy who's idea of a good time on a Saturday night is firing off pucks in his garage. Him and Bedard lived with each other and thats what they did for fun. Not a coincidence they both have great shots and obsessed with the game! Guys who live and breath hockey every day are the best kids to draft for sure 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 45 minutes ago, DeNiro said: He has like 45 goals in his last 82 games or something. So yes. You didn't respond to the rest of what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 46 minutes ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said: Eichel deserves the Conn Smythe imo. pretty boring finals sadly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, R3aL said: Him and Bedard lived with each other and thats what they did for fun. Not a coincidence they both have great shots and obsessed with the game! Guys who live and breath hockey every day are the best kids to draft for sure Pretty sure they all live and breath hockey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, stawns said: Pretty sure they all live and breath hockey Did Jake Virtanen? I think he lived hockey but breathed hot dogs and drakkar noir 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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