JM_ Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Just now, Ghostsof1915 said: Kind of balances out. Calgary has better defence. We have better forwards. Goalies are similar. Different coaching styles too. if we can somehow figure out how to bring in one more top 4 RHD this season or next I like our chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 1 minute ago, JM_ said: if we can somehow figure out how to bring in one more top 4 RHD this season or next I like our chances. a healthy year of Poolman will help I think. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 25 minutes ago, stawns said: numbers make no difference, it's their style ofplay and wear and tear on their bodies Yet Bert played 1159 games and Iginla 1554. Only Neely (726 games) fits that narrative, and yes, iirc, retired due to chronic back pain. Was season preparation and conditioning so much better after the turn of the century? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 (edited) The one thing about comparables is that that's all it is - a data point. If JT Miller is looking for 10M+ AAV, he needs to find a team that's actually willing and able to commit that much of their cap to him. He'll likely be the top player on that team, and the other forwards will end up using him as their comparable when their own contract expires. Who do we really think will give him that much of their cap space and make him the top paid forward on their team? Edited August 5, 2022 by Vinny in Vancouver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Canuck You Posted August 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2022 At least their saving money on his jersey... 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Yep, as the old saw goes ..... If a thing's worth saying, it's worth saying twice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 49 minutes ago, Devron said: I’m just in awe that this F bomb has lasted 4 hours. Pretty awesome That's weird. Normally curse words are censored automatically. I don't even think to check my post after I made it. Anyways, I edited it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 33 minutes ago, Vinny in Vancouver said: The one thing about comparables is that that's all it is - a data point. If JT Miller is looking for 10M+ AAV, he needs to find a team that's actually willing and able to commit that much of their cap to him. He'll likely be the top player on that team, and the other forwards will end up using him as their comparable when their own contract expires. Who do we really think will give him that much of their cap space and make him the top paid forward on their team? He won't get $10m, but he's going to get paid a large number with a long term........neither of which the Canucks should look at taking on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: That's weird. Normally curse words are censored automatically. I don't even think to check my post after I made it. Anyways, I edited it. I did on my reply too. It’s a rare moment on CDC and I’m a child haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Ward Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 All this talk that Huberdeau got 10.5, therefore Miller won't sign for 8 seems a little off base to me. Huberdeau has averaged 1.21 pts per game in the last 4 years. Miller has averaged .95. That is a huge difference. Also, Treliving overpaid about 10-15% and 1 year just to make a point that Calgary is not a wasteland and top players will sign there. I think he would have gotten 9-9.5 over 7 years on the open market at his age. I don't pretend to know how much Miller will sign for, but I don't think the two are as comparable as everybody else thinks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dixon Ward said: All this talk that Huberdeau got 10.5, therefore Miller won't sign for 8 seems a little off base to me. Huberdeau has averaged 1.21 pts per game in the last 4 years. Miller has averaged .95. That is a huge difference. Also, Treliving overpaid about 10-15% and 1 year just to make a point that Calgary is not a wasteland and top players will sign there. I think he would have gotten 9-9.5 over 7 years on the open market at his age. I don't pretend to know how much Miller will sign for, but I don't think the two are as comparable as everybody else thinks. I'm betting both Miller and his agent disagree on that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Ward Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, stawns said: I'm betting both Miller and his agent disagree on that I'm sure you're right, but even in Miller's best year of his life, Huberdeau had 16 more points. He and his agent would have a hard time with most GM's making the argument they are worth the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dixon Ward said: I'm sure you're right, but even in Miller's best year of his life, Huberdeau had 16 more points. He and his agent would have a hard time with most GM's making the argument they are worth the same. I don't disagree, but you could also make a case that Miller is a far more complete, more versatile player who also plays C, rather than wing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 34 minutes ago, stawns said: He won't get $10m, but he's going to get paid a large number with a long term........neither of which the Canucks should look at taking on How much? 9M AAV for 8 years? Which team's actually going to be willing to do that? Who has the cap space next year and is willing to make him their top paid forward for the next few years? Those should be our potential trading partners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoastcanucks777 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 4 hours ago, NHL'er said: Like my future ex-wife, this will not age well at age 36 And then go back to normal at age 37-38? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Vinny in Vancouver said: How much? 9M AAV for 8 years? Which team's actually going to be willing to do that? Who has the cap space next year and is willing to make him their top paid forward for the next few years? Those should be our potential trading partners. there will always be teams willing to do that........they did with JG. I think the most likely trading artners for Miller will be teams looking for a rental at 50% retained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoastcanucks777 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Canuck You said: At least their saving money on his jersey... Flames will literally have to do that at their gift shops to save money …mo money mo ploblems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Green Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 This reeks of desperation to me, after Johnny Jockey and Tkachoo both said no to 10M+ Treliving is trying to make a point by over-paying. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Just now, Kelly Green said: This reeks of desperation to me, after Johnny Jockey and Tkachoo both said no to 10M+ Treliving is trying to make a point by over-paying. That's every Canadian team, not just Calgary.......... especially with American players 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kelly Green said: This reeks of desperation to me, after Johnny Jockey and Tkachoo both said no to 10M+ Treliving is trying to make a point by over-paying. Huberdau's agent to Treliving after getting traded to the Flames when both Gaudreau and Tkachuk said no to the Flames' 10M+ offer: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now