RolexSub Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 On 11/1/2022 at 12:47 AM, Elias Pettersson said: I don't think we have room for both. We can't have all these small defencemen in the lineup. Bear shoots right so if he plays well then you can trade Dermott and try and get a pick back. Stillman, Burroughs, Brisebois are all interchangeable. Poolman is gone for the year. We basically have like 11-12 Dmen but only 3 of them are really top 4 guys, Hughes, OEL and Myers. Schenn and Bear would have to rotate into the top 4. I keep Schenn in there full time..we need his grit and toughness back there. Myers needs to play his size to be an affective defensemen which he is poorly lacking. Agree to move Dermott out if Bear out plays him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoastcanucks777 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 33 minutes ago, RolexSub said: I keep Schenn in there full time..we need his grit and toughness back there. Myers needs to play his size to be an affective defensemen which he is poorly lacking. Agree to move Dermott out if Bear out plays him. Myers smiles lots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Ethan Bear has looked awfully good so far. He has made some mistakes, but is still finding his legs and rhythm. We has been solid defensively, which is exactly what we need, We have to find a few more deals like this. I'd do this one all day every day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) On 11/3/2022 at 2:10 PM, RolexSub said: I keep Schenn in there full time..we need his grit and toughness back there. Myers needs to play his size to be an affective defensemen which he is poorly lacking. Agree to move Dermott out if Bear out plays him. It sucks that he is injured but Dermott is definitely worth keeping around. 1. He is still young at 25 2. He is cheap - because of his injuries he probably won't break out this year so a guy like him at 1.5M is a steal 3. Versatile - plays right side, left side, and can adapt to offensive and defensive deployments 4. Potential - his underlying numbers shine, and he also had a good stint last year. A lot of writers and fans thought he should have been given a top 4 role. He seems like the perfect guy to slot in as your #5 and have him move up the lineup. He could develop into a very good player and is worth taking a flyer on. https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/travis-dermott-top-four-potential-canucks I have a very similar sentiment to Ethan Bear! He actually did quite well playing massive minutes and has enormous upside for what we are paying him. These are two guys I want to see stick around for sure and hopefully we don't have to spend big money on washups like OEL and Myers in the future or pick up a 6/7 guy like Poolman for 2.5 million. Edited November 9, 2022 by canucklehead44 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Well now that we have bear maybe when Dermott steps back in our D might be better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saucypass Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 10 hours ago, cripplereh said: Well now that we have bear maybe when Dermott steps back in our D might be better. Realistically, all we need is someone to babysit Myers and someone to babysit OEL so we can split them apart and have them do their thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, suitup said: Realistically, all we need is someone to babysit Myers and someone to babysit OEL so we can split them apart and have them do their thing. OEL doesn’t need a babysitter, but he also should not be paired with Myers because as a pair they suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saucypass Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Just now, canuck73_3 said: OEL doesn’t need a babysitter, but he also should not be paired with Myers because as a pair they suck. Yes, but a babysitter for OEL will hopefully activate his offensive prowess. The guy scored 20 goals on the coyotes, we need him back. Defenseman age well and there has to be some sort of revival for him somewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, suitup said: Realistically, all we need is someone to babysit Myers and someone to babysit OEL so we can split them apart and have them do their thing. Well technically we need to have someone to babysit Hughes and someone to babysit OEL, so Schenn can be pushed down onto a 3rd pairing with Myers and play where he should be on a decent D. Schenn is filling in better than we can realistically hope for and playing above his pay grade, but any team wanting to contend probably shouldn’t have him on a top pairing. JR talks about puck moving D… I am not sure how he doesn’t realize he has them… but is using them as shut down guys instead. For all the Myers gaffes in the defensive zone, if he has the right partner, he could be a high end 3rd pairing guy who pots in some offence. OEL is still one of the better offensive D in the league, you saw it immediately when Hughes got hurt and he had to fill in on that role. A stay at home partner unlocks his actual skillset again, instead of setting him up to fail as a shutdown guy. Edited November 10, 2022 by Provost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saucypass Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Provost said: Well technically we need to have someone to babysit Hughes and someone to babysit OEL, so Schenn can be pushed down onto a 3rd pairing with Myers and play where he should be on a decent D. Schenn is filling in better than we can realistically hope for and playing above his pay grade, but any team wanting to contend probably shouldn’t have him on a top pairing. That would be great but now we have two RHD in Myers and Schenn on the third pairing. Who plays with Bear? OEL or Hughes? In the meantime, who occupies top pairing RHD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 34 minutes ago, suitup said: That would be great but now we have two RHD in Myers and Schenn on the third pairing. Who plays with Bear? OEL or Hughes? In the meantime, who occupies top pairing RHD? Schenn plays both sides. There isn’t any realistic way to get rid of Myers. Bear, Dermott, Stillman, Poolman are all just fodder. Who knows who would play the two RHD…. That is entirely the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, Provost said: Schenn plays both sides. There isn’t any realistic way to get rid of Myers. Bear, Dermott, Stillman, Poolman are all just fodder. Who knows who would play the two RHD…. That is entirely the point Bear has been playing much better than just fodder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 32 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Bear has been playing much better than just fodder He would be a fine 3rd pairing D. If you can figure out a way to exit from Myers without giving up a bunch of futures. Go wild. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 32 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: I know this probably belongs in the GDT or now I guess the PGT, but I was quite disturbed by how the SNet video crew seem to focus in on EB74 after a goal against. This happened with the game in Ottawa, and then there was a good 15-20 seconds where the camera focussed in on him after the JR3 cough-up, as if somehow the goal against was his fault. If anything, the camera spotlight should have been placed on Rathbonehead for his Rathboneheaded cough-up and slow leisurely skate chasing after the opportunistic Hoffman who took the cough-up from him and scored. PS, that 2nd Dach goal is also JR3's fault for chasing the play on the other side of the ice leaving Dach wide open. I get that Bruce (there it is) wants the players to play through their difficulties, but JR3 needs to give his Rathbonehead a shake and start playing like a pro. Maybe Rathbone's just not that good. He's also inexperienced. Sorry, I didn't see the game, so not sure what happened exactly. I thought Bear's game has been good since he's been Vancouver. Nobody has looked particularly good in Van, so the fact that EB74 has looked decent, means he's doing his part in trying to help the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saucypass Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 8 hours ago, Provost said: Schenn plays both sides. There isn’t any realistic way to get rid of Myers. Bear, Dermott, Stillman, Poolman are all just fodder. Who knows who would play the two RHD…. That is entirely the point Makes sense but I was trying to ask of the defenseman we have available how would you line up the last two? Or at least the last one with the other being a question mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saucypass Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 8 hours ago, Provost said: Schenn plays both sides. There isn’t any realistic way to get rid of Myers. Bear, Dermott, Stillman, Poolman are all just fodder. Who knows who would play the two RHD…. That is entirely the point Makes sense but I was trying to ask of the defenseman we have available how would you line up the last two? Or at least the last one with the other being a question mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saucypass Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 8 hours ago, Provost said: Schenn plays both sides. There isn’t any realistic way to get rid of Myers. Bear, Dermott, Stillman, Poolman are all just fodder. Who knows who would play the two RHD…. That is entirely the point Makes sense but I was trying to ask of the defenseman we have available how would you line up the last two? Or at least the last one with the other being a question mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: I know this probably belongs in the GDT or now I guess the PGT, but I was quite disturbed by how the SNet video crew seem to focus in on EB74 after a goal against. This happened with the game in Ottawa, and then there was a good 15-20 seconds where the camera focussed in on him after the JR3 cough-up, as if somehow the goal against was his fault. If anything, the camera spotlight should have been placed on Rathbonehead for his Rathboneheaded cough-up and slow leisurely skate chasing after the opportunistic Hoffman who took the cough-up from him and scored. I noticed that too. Bear actually hustled his butt off down the ice and slid across to take away the pass. He played it perfectly, very strange of the camera crew to focus in on him. Edited November 10, 2022 by coryberg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BCNate Posted November 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2022 Credit where credit is due. This was a great trade. Bear has been a very solid addition to this D core. I hope that we re sign him, but if we don't and have to deal him at the deadline, he will certainly get a bigger return than the 5th we paid for him. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Take my complaining back. I thought for sure we were going to pay yet another 2nd or something for another fringe guy. Givin the team he has to play on I'd say he looks pretty decent. Cannot complain at the price either. Keep it going bear! Routing for ya 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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