Sharpshooter Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 16 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Wrong. Here's why a coaching change now will lead to a bump in the most simplistic terms. Even a "bad coach" We are halfway done the season. Teams have endless tape on the structure and plays of teams, from forward to defense to special teams on offense and the PK. They have hundreds of hours of footage that their coaching staff and players have watched over and over again to familiarize themselves with the opposing team prior to game day. Then, a new coach with a polar opposite mindset and vastly different systems steps in. All of a sudden that tape is worthless. They have studied french when the test is in german. This gives the team with a coaching change and a talented forward group like ours a weapon that other teams can't counter because they haven't seen it. Tocchet could come in and be awful, like Keenan awful; but it doesn't matter because wins will happen. Our players will wear down fast and start hating life within 30 games or less, but wins will come. A new coach will bump this team up in the wins columns just because nobody knows what to expect from them. Essentially; even if Tocchet comes in and is the worst gd coach in canucks history, statistically he will still squeeze a solid winning record out of this team in his first 15 games which puts us out of contention for a solid lottery spot. Or in laymans terms, all 17.3 managers and their old boys club + aqua mans need for relevancy in the league will cost us a chance at a franchise defining centre; or possibly the greatest player since Mcdavid/Crosby who HAPPENS to be from Vancouver and happens to want nothing more than to play at home, possibly so much he'd take smaller contracts to do it. We will hire Tocchet and Canuck Luck ourselves in to mediocrity. And then again, another stupid move by a stupid organization. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 29 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Aquilini should fire himself into the sun Or dig himself into the depths of hell…or earth’s core. Whichever comes first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Just now, Sharpshooter said: Or dig himself into the depths of hell…or earth’s core. Whichever comes first. Isn’t that what he’s doing to the franchise? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Face Doom Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Some if yall need to look in the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Isn’t that what he’s doing to the franchise? I don’t know what he’s doing. Does anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Metal Face Doom said: Some if yall need to look in the mirror. Of only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Metal Face Doom said: Some if yall need to look in the mirror. Is there a team that knows what the hell they’re doing in there?!? Edited January 20, 2023 by DeNiro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU SERIOUS Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, King Heffy said: Tocchet is enough of a cancer in the room ti nullify any risk of a coaching bump. 1 hour ago, J-23 said: Why is he a locker room cancer? 1 hour ago, King Heffy said: Extreme character issues including a criminal record and possible mob ties. Why would anyone welcome this worthless piece of trash into the organization? Sounds like he'll fit in perfectly with Aqua-Lini ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mordekai Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Sharpshooter said: Another stupid move by a stupid organization. What does say about the fans who follow a stupid organization Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quint Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 minute ago, mordekai said: What does say about the fans who follow a stupid organization My name is Quint, and I am a stupid Canucks fan! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 3 hours ago, DeNiro said: I’m fine with Tocchett and Gonchar to an extent but I have no clue how Matvichuk fits the equation. Unless they’re planning to retain Yeo or make another hire. There’s no way he has the experience to run the D or the Pk. Maybe a King replacement ? Same. Have no clue about MATVICHUK. I just don't see how Tocchet will be better than Bruce. I mean, I get it from a change up perspective but don't see how Tocchet and crew would be an improvement given his record as a head coach. Bringing him in as an assistant with Bruce, sure, that makes sense because that's where he's had the most success. And that would push Yeo either out or him as an assistant to both Tocchet and Bruce. That makes sense to me. Three experienced guys with Bruce in the lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 supposedly Tocchet has his teams play with things called "structure" and "defence" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: Same. Have no clue about MATVICHUK. I just don't see how Tocchet will be better than Bruce. I mean, I get it from a change up perspective but don't see how Tocchet and crew would be an improvement given his record as a head coach. Bringing him in as an assistant with Bruce, sure, that makes sense because that's where he's had the most success. And that would push Yeo either out or him as an assistant to both Tocchet and Bruce. That makes sense to me. Three experienced guys with Bruce in the lead. Still hoping for a surprise announcement that nobody has picked up on. JR has kept things quiet in the past like with the Miller signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longsuffering Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, Canucks Curse said: supposedly Tocchet has his teams play with things called "structure" and "defence" Is that why he has a losing record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Lesson to management: This is why you have an associate coach that is experienced enough to take over if you need to make a change. You avoid this mess and have a much smoother transition. Someone like a Brad Shaw maybe… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Still hoping for a surprise announcement that nobody has picked up on. JR has kept things quiet in the past like with the Miller signing. Well, he's gotta work his experienced magic now that a year has passed. I'm hoping for the same as you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Just now, Dr. Crossbar said: Well, he's gotta work his experienced magic now that a year has passed. I'm hoping for the same as you. My dream would be that he already talked to Trotz on the DL and has an agreement in place. Tocchett is actually coming in as his assistant until Trotz moves up to management. Gives Tocchett some more on the job training under one of the best. Not gonna happen but that would be my dream. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, DeNiro said: My dream would be that he already talked to Trotz on the DL and has an agreement in place. Tocchett is actually coming in as his assistant until Trotz moves up to management. Gives Tocchett some more on the job training under one of the best. Not gonna happen but that would be my dream. I'm onboard with that. I said before it would only make sense if Trotz was available and he gave us a deadline of asap. Would make sense in replacing Bruce with quality experience. Replacing him with Tocchet is just all kinds of meh ... and Tony Soprano. Edited January 20, 2023 by Dr. Crossbar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 47 minutes ago, mordekai said: What does say about the fans who follow a stupid organization Stupid in love. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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