mll Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, jyu said: If he retires now, will there be cap-recapture? 6 minutes ago, AngryElf said: For the Coyotes, yes. Not us. It's no longer possible to sign contracts with that kind of structure. Every contract is now safe from a recapture penalty other than Quick (who is in the final year of his deal) and Crosby. Those are the only 2 contracts left that could be subject to a recapture penalty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Barnstorm said: Wouldn’t those picks come in handy as trade fodder come summer? Absolutely, which is why the picks weren't firsts. If they were the trade would have been made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodos Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: If the Canucks could have traded him but didn't, this management is totally lost. If it was any other organization I would doubt this report. But this is 100% on brand with everything the Canucks have been doing since Gillis was fired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sell.the.team Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Barnstorm said: Wouldn’t those picks come in handy as trade fodder come summer? One would think. I hate Dreger and how he loves smearing the Canucks whenever possible, but I get the sense he has enough 'integrity' to only do it when he believes it to be true....which is often enough given the numpties running this team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofvan Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, awalk said: It would but I wonder, 1) risky assumption, but our C depth looks much less scary if we draft CB, AF, or Benson this year Or much more probable 2) after all this insanity deadline spending, lot of teams gonna be super pressed against the cap and forced to move good pieces for lower value and we could aim to re coup a center that way. Either way I'm not upset at keeping Miller, but passing on 2x 1st round picks if true... oof that's tough. I agree with you but maybe the Canucks wanted someone who could fill in at 2C (Poehling, Kotkaniemi, etc) for the balance of this year until they see if 1) comes to fruition and, if not, explore 2) and use that trade asset to play 3C. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Drunken Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Just now, fanofvan said: Mighty noble of you to stand up for Alf, I can respect that. Like I've said in previous posts, Rutherford had absolutely no need to take this job; he has won championships, he has built teams, and he's fairly advanced in age. He said during his introductory press conference that he would not have taken the position if he wasn't given full autonomy over all personnel decisions and I believe him when he said that. I'm absolutely fine with a full rebuild as much as I'm fine with the new regime being given a chance to execute their plan. It may be similar to Benning's plan but, to me, it looks like they are being smarter about it. I will say that's a very good point, just because Benning couldn't do it that doesn't mean a different group can't. Even though I was/am on the full rebuild train, I have more confidence a Rutherford led front office can do it than an Aquilini/Benning tandem. Time will tell if they are successful or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Just now, PhillipBlunt said: Myers in his own end His game controller is whacked out? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Just now, kodos said: If it was any other organization I would doubt this report. But this is 100% on brand with everything the Canucks have been doing since Gillis was fired. I agree. Hopelessly confusing moves that seemingly ignore reality. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Harold Drunken Posted March 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said: Myers in his own end Myers just doesn't have any mojo right now, I literally watched him pass the puck to a player who didn't have a stick last night. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Drunken Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Myers in his own end 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Just now, Harold Drunken said: Myers just doesn't have any mojo right now, I literally watched him pass the puck to a player who didn't have a stick last night. Was he lying down or upright? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 minute ago, fanofvan said: I agree with you but maybe the Canucks wanted someone who could fill in at 2C (Poehling, Kotkaniemi, etc) for the balance of this year until they see if 1) comes to fruition and, if not, explore 2) and use that trade asset to play 3C. You are probably right, unfortunately (I don't like that approach). But they get paid the big bucks to make these decisions not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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awalk Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Worst thing to happen to Edmonton was make the conference finals. It gives the illusion they are only a few pieces away from the Cup. The reality is conference finals I think is the best case scenario for them. I love watching the Oilers squander McDavids career. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, fanofvan said: Mighty noble of you to stand up for Alf, I can respect that. Like I've said in previous posts, Rutherford had absolutely no need to take this job; he has won championships, he has built teams, and he's fairly advanced in age. He said during his introductory press conference that he would not have taken the position if he wasn't given full autonomy over all personnel decisions and I believe him when he said that. I'm absolutely fine with a full rebuild as much as I'm fine with the new regime being given a chance to execute their plan. It may be similar to Benning's plan but, to me, it looks like they are being smarter about it. Totally agree with you there. I like what’s happening with this club in contrast to where it’s been. Definitely polarizing but when in recent memory hasn’t this organization acted in that way to a degree. And you’d think someone like JR would be given autonomy, but considering the cash flow going out between coaches, bonuses and long term high $ deals in just the last few years alone, it’d be very hard to insulate the Aquilini group from those transactions/approvals in what is being spent and where. In that sense alone there is definitely real-time integration between mgmt’s office and ownership, and we both know who calls the shots in that relationship. So, imho, it’s quite plausible that there is a continual cloud of influence over mgmt and their decisions. Edited March 3, 2023 by RWJC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Myers in his own end Is that horizontal or vertical? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_Hawk Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: I agree. Hopelessly confusing moves that seemingly ignore reality. PA made the trade we bitched about him not making last year with JT; he traded Bo for a top 4RHD + B+ prospect. I don't get the hate here; this in no way shape or form is a desperate move. This a move by a FO that realizes we have very good pieces already in their early/mid 20s; Hronek fits right in. Trading the 1st is the cost it takes to secure such a player. I am more disappointed in the 2nd being included vs. TOs 3rd. This is a great trade that sets our rebuild/retool/whatever 3 years ahead vs. drafting a RHD at 12-20 OAL (and that is a prayer they work out). 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofvan Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, RWJC said: Totally agree with you there. I like what’s happening with this club in contrast to where it’s been. Definitely polarizing but when I’m recent memory hasn’t this organization acted in that way to a degree. And you’d think someone like JR would be given autonomy, but considering the cash flow going out between coaches, bonuses and long term high $ deals in just the last few years alone, it’d be very hard to insulate the Aquilini group from those transactions/approvals in what is being spent and where. In that sense alone there is definitely real-time integration between mgmt’s office and ownership, and we both know who calls the shots in that relationship. So, imho, it’s quite plausible that there is a continual cloud of influence over mgmt and their decisions. Your last point gives me further reason to support he was given full autonomy. What cash conscious/meddling owner would allow a GM to fire a coach and replace him midseason, thereby putting 3 head coaches on payroll? I'm sure the Aquilini group has some level of input over management/structure hirings, but when it comes to the actual players and on-ice product, I'd certainly hope they have autonomy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Tampa could need a 3rd party broker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PhillipBlunt Posted March 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, mll said: Tampa could need a 3rd party broker. Arizona's already bent over and ready to go. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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