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6 hours ago, Diamond NHL said:

If the big one happens here.. would it be the same as like the walking dead where people will kill each other for supplies and food, or is that only for world wide disasters?

There would be rioting and probably multiple petty crimes.  Then the army will come in and likely set curfews.

 

But the first week or so will be everyone for themselves. 

 

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One thing this thread is good for.  Bunch of doom and gloom fear mongering that the big one is imminent, and then nothing until the next round of fear mongering.

 

I actually met someone a couple weeks ago that actually lives in constant fear that the big one is about to hit.  Almost everything she does revolves around a potential earthquake happening.  Crappy way to live a life if you ask me.

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4 hours ago, Grapefruits said:

One thing this thread is good for.  Bunch of doom and gloom fear mongering that the big one is imminent, and then nothing until the next round of fear mongering.

 

I actually met someone a couple weeks ago that actually lives in constant fear that the big one is about to hit.  Almost everything she does revolves around a potential earthquake happening.  Crappy way to live a life if you ask me.

That actually used to be me, but I've settled down a bit the past 3-4 months.

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5 hours ago, Grapefruits said:

One thing this thread is good for.  Bunch of doom and gloom fear mongering that the big one is imminent, and then nothing until the next round of fear mongering.

 

I actually met someone a couple weeks ago that actually lives in constant fear that the big one is about to hit.  Almost everything she does revolves around a potential earthquake happening.  Crappy way to live a life if you ask me.

 

Would you blame her though? This govt couldnt even handle wind storms of a few years ago LOL people were without power for up to 4-5 days, just think if an earthquake or Tsunami occurred, GL relying on the local authorities to quell the disaster. 

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12 hours ago, Grapefruits said:

One thing this thread is good for.  Bunch of doom and gloom fear mongering that the big one is imminent, and then nothing until the next round of fear mongering.

You know, I used to be in the same camp as you, but I've softened that stance a little bit. It's easy to be flippant, but awareness is important.

 

I think that a large earthquake happening on the west coast is a matter of time. Could be now, or hundreds of years from now, but it will happen. It's not something to fear daily, but it's definitely something to be serious about and prepared for. 

 

This is from a 2015 New Yorker article, which thankfully sticks to the science rather than fear-mongering(suggested reading):

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In fact, the science is robust, and one of the chief scientists behind it is Chris Goldfinger. Thanks to work done by him and his colleagues, we now know that the odds of the big Cascadia earthquake happening in the next fifty years are roughly one in three. The odds of the very big one are roughly one in ten. Even those numbers do not fully reflect the danger—or, more to the point, how unprepared the Pacific Northwest is to face it. The truly worrisome figures in this story are these: Thirty years ago, no one knew that the Cascadia subduction zone had ever produced a major earthquake. Forty-five years ago, no one even knew it existed.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/07/20/the-really-big-one

 

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Thanks to that work, we now know that the Pacific Northwest has experienced forty-one subduction-zone earthquakes in the past ten thousand years. If you divide ten thousand by forty-one, you get two hundred and forty-three, which is Cascadia’s recurrence interval: the average amount of time that elapses between earthquakes.....Counting from the earthquake of 1700, we are now three hundred and fifteen years into a two-hundred-and-forty-three-year cycle. 

Now, I don't know about you, but I think it's rather naive to think that this pattern is at an end. If anything, we're overdue. 

 

So, considering an earthquake is probable, how prepared is the area for a large earthquake?

 

I've recently had the benefit of being in Japan, and it's altered my perspective on earthquake preparedness significantly. I've felt a couple heavier earthquakes (not pleasant), and seen the response to the recent Kyushu quakes, and it's really made me think about what would be different back home. My conclusion is that the west coast is woefully unprepared. For instance:

  • Do you know how earthquake proof the buildings you reside and work are?
  • Whether or not you're in an area that could be heavily affected?
  • Do you know disaster protocol?
  • Do you have an emergency kit at home?
  • Do you know where the closest emergency assembly area is? 

Chances are, nobody can say yes to any of those, or one or two at most. When I moved to Tokyo I could answer yes to 4 of these within a week without even trying.

 

To be fair, earthquakes are far, far more common here, but it does serve to indicate an intense lack of awareness regarding emergency situations and services on the west coast. When I move back, I'll be buying an emergency kit and I'll take some time (10 minutes is all it takes) to research potential dangers and disaster protocol where I live. It's a small thing to worry about, but I think everyone has a duty to be prepared. 

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having been through 3 quakes recently on the north coast the one was registered at 4,5 was more scary and abrupt than the one in late october 2012  7.7  in comparison had a smooth feel to it like you were in a small skiff ,a smooth swaying feel, and the lesser one had a more jagged feel to it . hopefully the big one has that smooth feel.

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On 2016-06-11 at 7:48 AM, StealthNuck said:

So, considering an earthquake is probable, how prepared is the area for a large earthquake?

 

I've recently had the benefit of being in Japan, and it's altered my perspective on earthquake preparedness significantly. I've felt a couple heavier earthquakes (not pleasant), and seen the response to the recent Kyushu quakes, and it's really made me think about what would be different back home. My conclusion is that the west coast is woefully unprepared. For instance:

  • Do you know how earthquake proof the buildings you reside and work are?
  • Whether or not you're in an area that could be heavily affected?
  • Do you know disaster protocol?
  • Do you have an emergency kit at home?
  • Do you know where the closest emergency assembly area is? 

Chances are, nobody can say yes to any of those, or one or two at most. When I moved to Tokyo I could answer yes to 4 of these within a week without even trying.

 

To be fair, earthquakes are far, far more common here, but it does serve to indicate an intense lack of awareness regarding emergency situations and services on the west coast. When I move back, I'll be buying an emergency kit and I'll take some time (10 minutes is all it takes) to research potential dangers and disaster protocol where I live. It's a small thing to worry about, but I think everyone has a duty to be prepared. 

Good on you, Stealth.  Yes, Japan is better prepared then North America.  Earthquake emergency safety is built into the culture there.  That'll be the difference between how a city in Japan would recover/survive a huge earthquake versus a major city here in NA.

 

There are government bodies and municipalities which are recognizing the need to address the lack of preparedness, though.  Washington and Oregon just finished with a 4 day mock 9.0 earthquake and tsunami simulation called Cascadia Rising (Port Alberni and southern BC conducted their own simulations). 

 

If anyone is interested, here is the link to the Cascadia Rising Exercise Scenario Document, which really goes into detail about what towns could be wiped out, what infrastructure would be affected (bridges, roads, water treatment facilities, communications and power, etc) and how many casualties to expect.  Really fascinating stuff - all hypothetical but good for awareness.

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Italy earthquake: Death toll rises to at least 120:

 

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The true horror of the Italian earthquake disaster was revealed today as witnesses likened the hellish scenes to 'Dante's inferno' while shocking pictures showed how four towns were almost wiped off the map.

 

At least 120 people were killed, including two babies, and 100 people are believed to be trapped under rubble after the 6.2-magnitude quake struck at 3.30am local time this morning while villagers slept in their beds. 

 

Today rescuers spoke of hearing children's screams from the rubble and locals were spotted frantically digging with their bare hands to try and save loved ones. 

 

One man, Guido Bordo, 69, lost his sister and her husband after they were trapped inside their holiday house in the hamlet of Illica, north of hard-hit Amatrice. Before their deaths were confirmed, he had described how he could only hear the sound of cats as he scrambled to find his loved-ones beneath the rubble.

 

The first victim to be named by local media reports is Marisol Piermarini - an 18-month-old baby who was sleeping in her crib when the house she was staying in Arquata del Tronto collapsed. Mother Martina and father Massimiliano were on holiday with their baby when she was killed. They have been taken to hospital with 'many wounds' after being pulled from the rubble.

 

The tragic little girl's grandfather, Massimo Piermarini, told Ansa he desperately tried to save his family: 'They did not want me to go in because it was all in danger, but I said that I did not care at all, I had to go looking for them, but unfortunately for the girl there was nothing to do.'

 

The quake which devastated the mountainside towns and villages of Amatrice, Accumoli, Arquata del Tronto and Pescara del Tronto was so powerful that it even rocked buildings in the centre of Rome more than 100 miles away and was felt as far away as Croatia.

 

Survivors today described 'apocalyptic' scenes in towns and villages at the border of three regions - Umbria, Lazio and Marche  - near the city of Perugia, which is especially popular with British holidaymakers. 

 

Some of the worst damage was suffered in Pescara del Tronto, a hamlet near Arquata in the Marche region where the bodies of the dead were laid out in a children's play park.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3755722/Italy-rocked-6-1-magnitude-earthquake-centered-near-capital-Rome.html

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Amidst all the tragedy, some good news:

 

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As rescuers raced to find survivors of the devastating earthquake that hit central Italy early Wednesday, firefighters working in one of the hardest-hit towns pulled a 10-year-old girl alive from under a crumbled home.

 

Cheers broke out when she was pulled out 17 hours after the temblor hit the mountainous region. Two women ran up the street yelling: "She's alive."

 

Full story and video here: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/italy-earthquake-girl-rescued-1.3735227

 

Silver linings....

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Powerful quake off north-east New Zealand coast:

 

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Residents of a small community on the east coast of New Zealand's North Island have been asked to evacuate after a severe earthquake at sea.

 

Civil defence authorities asked people in the Tolaga Bay area to leave their homes after a 7.1 quake struck 169km (105 miles) north-east of Gisborne.

 

People in some coastal areas were told to go to higher ground.

 

The quake caused a tsunami but it has had no noticeable impact, an emergency worker told New Zealand radio.

 

The Pacific Tsunami Warning Center in Hawaii tweeted that only a 21cm (8in) wave had been measured.

 

The quake occurred at 04:37 local time (16:37 GMT) at a depth of 19km (12 miles), US monitors say.

 

Residents across North Island said they felt shaking and rattling as the quake struck but there were no immediate reports of serious damage.

 

In 2011, the city of Christchurch on South Island was devastated by a magnitude 6.3 earthquake that left 185 people dead.

 

Each year more than 15,000 earthquakes are recorded in New Zealand, but only about 150 are large enough to be felt.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37249108

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Earthquake with 4.1 magnitude shakes south Okanagan:

 

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Earthquake Canada reports a seismic event near Oliver, B.C. at 9:16 Saturday morning.

 

The Global Okanagan newsroom began receiving phone calls about the event within four minutes of its detection.

 

“I thought a gas truck exploded,” said Alex Milner from Oliver.  “The house shook; only for three or four seconds, but it was a good shake.”

 

Calls reporting tremors also came in from Osoyoos and Midway.

 

There are no reports of damage.

http://globalnews.ca/news/2932299/earthquake-with-4-1-magnitude-shakes-south-okanagan/

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Just had a doozy, here in western Japan. Oct, 21st.

 

Friday afternoon..same as the Tohoku 9.0 quake, 5 yrs ago.

 

TGIF out the window.

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3 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said:

Just had a doozy, here in western Japan. Oct, 21st.

 

Friday afternoon..same as the Tohoku 9.0 quake, 5 yrs ago.

 

TGIF out the window.

how bad was it? 

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13 minutes ago, Rush17 said:

how bad was it? 

Son & I scrambled out the front door, pretty quick. Felt the swaying for about 2 or 3 minutes. Think I've only felt 2 or 3 to compare.

 

Also was here for the 1995 Kobe Quake, & the doozy in 2011. THAT one shook for what seemed 10 freekin minutes!

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1 minute ago, redhdlois said:
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Apparently, it was a shallow depth. I was really astounded by the duration of the shaking. Had assumed(when outside) the magnitude would be higher - won't be surprised if they revise upwards.

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2 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said:

Apparently, it was a shallow depth. I was really astounded by the duration of the shaking. Had assumed(when outside) the magnitude would be higher - won't be surprised if they revise upwards.

Several minutes is a long time ..... very scary.   Any tsunami warnings ?   

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