King Heffy Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 So we all know we can't buy out Booth, then re-sign him. Is there anything stopping us from trading him and then signing him after another team buys him out? If this is legal, we could do something like this: Trade: PHI: Booth VAN: Briere Both players bought out Van signs Booth to a cheap contract Phi signs Briere to a cheap contract Is this legal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 OMG please stop with crazy, farfetched wheeling and dealing. Why do you want Booth anyways, he scored over 40 pts once, ONCE! in his career and that was in 2008-09...four freaking season ago! He's 28 years old, if anything he's on the downhill. Move on with Booth, I was happy with the acquisition but he's just not the same palyer anymore and injury prone. Anyway no place for him in our top 9. These seven players below are all lock for our top nine, I believe Jensen will be a top 9 mid-season next year, after half a season in the AHL and I'd rather re-sign Roy than give yet another chance to Booth and miss our chance with the Amnesty buyout Sedin Sedin Burrows Kesler Hansen Higgins Kassian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted April 5, 2013 Author Share Posted April 5, 2013 I'd rather keep Jensen down in the AHL and let him play more minutes/provide depth in case of an injury. Notice I said a CHEAP contract. Let's suggest, for arguments sake, 1.5 million. How many better options do we have than Booth for that price? Nothing wrong with depth. We sure as hell needed it this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Anyway it's a stupid proposal, this kind of ploy is for X-Box or simulated hockey league, even there I don't think it's possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted April 5, 2013 Author Share Posted April 5, 2013 Just because it seems strange doesn't make it stupid. The cap going down is going to cause a lot of strange things to happen over the summer. Also, our management is known for always looking for creative ways to work around the cap. Try looking at the trade OBJECTIVELY Canucks save cap space (they need it) Flyers save cap space (they need it) Briere gets to stay in Philly (he wants to stay) Booth gets another shot here with a strong team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 If it was legal don't you think the Canucks and Philly would have swapped Bryzgalov and Luongo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 No its not legal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killer Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 So we all know we can't buy out Booth, then re-sign him. Is there anything stopping us from trading him and then signing him after another team buys him out? If this is legal, we could do something like this: Trade: PHI: Booth VAN: Briere Both players bought out Van signs Booth to a cheap contract Phi signs Briere to a cheap contract Is this legal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Just because it seems strange doesn't make it stupid. The cap going down is going to cause a lot of strange things to happen over the summer. Also, our management is known for always looking for creative ways to work around the cap. Try looking at the trade OBJECTIVELY Canucks save cap space (they need it) Flyers save cap space (they need it) Briere gets to stay in Philly (he wants to stay) Booth gets another shot here with a strong team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Is this legal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Why would you want to re-sign after your old team basically team says "you're bad. Here is less money!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayRayDown Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Chicago trades Toews, Keith for Crosby, Letang. All four players are bought out and everyone re-sign for 1M each and both powerhouse save 15-20M of cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 So we all know we can't buy out Booth, then re-sign him. Is there anything stopping us from trading him and then signing him after another team buys him out? If this is legal, we could do something like this: Trade: PHI: Booth VAN: Briere Both players bought out Van signs Booth to a cheap contract Phi signs Briere to a cheap contract Is this legal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 It would be collusion, which is not legal. Collusion - an agreement between two or more parties, sometimes illegal and therefore secretive, to limit open competition by deceiving, misleading, or defrauding others of their legal rights, or to obtain an objective forbidden by law typically by defrauding or gaining an unfair advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex the Great Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Anyway it's a stupid proposal, this kind of ploy is for X-Box or simulated hockey league, even there I don't think it's possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizeman Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 And whats stopping us from buying out luongo, then having him sign a 1mil deal per for 4 years with another team and that team just trading him to us for a 7th rounder? Where is the rule against this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 And whats stopping us from buying out luongo, then having him sign a 1mil deal per for 4 years with another team and that team just trading him to us for a 7th rounder? Where is the rule against this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE14 Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Why would you want to re-sign after your old team basically team says "you're bad. Here is less money!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Bettman and the NHL have wide ranging authority to determine what is or is not considered circumvention of the CBA. They can void transactions and impose penalties including monetary ones, loss of draft picks, etc. for such circumvention. This is a scenario where the NHL absolutely could not let a precedent be set and would come down hard on the teams involved. You are also forgetting one very important party to this transaction: The NHLPA The NHLPA would never allow any of their players to weaken their collective right to increasing salaries over time. The PA would absolutely not let this kind of transaction happen as it gives teams authority to essentially re-write contract values based on current performance which essentially kills their hard earned (and vehemently defended) right to guaranteed contracts in the CBA.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 OMG please stop with crazy, farfetched wheeling and dealing. Why do you want Booth anyways, he scored over 40 pts once, ONCE! in his career and that was in 2008-09...four freaking season ago! He's 28 years old, if anything he's on the downhill. Move on with Booth, I was happy with the acquisition but he's just not the same palyer anymore and injury prone. Anyway no place for him in our top 9. These seven players below are all lock for our top nine, I believe Jensen will be a top 9 mid-season next year, after half a season in the AHL and I'd rather re-sign Roy than give yet another chance to Booth and miss our chance with the Amnesty buyout Sedin Sedin Burrows Kesler Hansen Higgins Kassian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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