Ilya Mikheyev Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Ya know, if the NHL didn't decide to outlaw Ballard's hipchecks, he probably would of been an effective player for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Grimes Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 If the Islanders claim Ballard, THEN you can say we lost the Grabner trade.....to the Islanders, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avicii Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER My Custom Lineup FORWARDS Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m) David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m) Chris Higgins ($2.500m) /X / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m) Tom Sestito ($0.750m) / X / Dale Weise ($0.750m) DEFENSEMEN Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) Alexander Edler ($5.000m) / Frank Corrado ($0.599m) Jason Garrison ($4.600m) / Chris Tanev ($1.500m) GOALTENDERS Roberto Luongo ($5.333m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $58,302,778; BONUSES: $0 CAP SPACE (17-man roster): $5,997,222 Sooo, that's 2 center spots open. Lappy? Gaunce? Horvat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 See, I thought we should have insisted that NJ take Ballard with Schneider as part of the deal! In a weird kind of way I would feel much better about the return we got if we were forcing NJ to help us clear a little more cap space in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB007 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Corrected. But it is ok, the plan all along by Gillis for Tanev was to give him enough icetime so they could eventually get a 2nd round pick for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 No that is what Gillis will say after Tanev leaves on a offer sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER My Custom Lineup FORWARDS Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m) David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m) Chris Higgins ($2.500m) /X / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m) Tom Sestito ($0.750m) / X / Dale Weise ($0.750m) DEFENSEMEN Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) Alexander Edler ($5.000m) / Frank Corrado ($0.599m) Jason Garrison ($4.600m) / Chris Tanev ($1.500m) GOALTENDERS Roberto Luongo ($5.333m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $58,302,778; BONUSES: $0 CAP SPACE (17-man roster): $5,997,222 Sooo, that's 2 center spots open. Lappy? Gaunce? Horvat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Everyone sees this as good, and I get why, free up cap space but lets look at the last two days 1. Traded the wrong player for less than his value 2. Having to dump a contract and maybe buy out because it was a bad trade Who's fault is that? AV's? or MG? hmm... cleaning up his mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nlife Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Dale Tallon built the blackhawks with lottery picks, that doesn't make him better than Gillis. That means his teams sucked and he got rewarded for it. He also made one of the worst moves any GM has in years, forgetting to send out qualifying offers to the likes of Brouwer, Versteeg and 4 others, essentially costing the Blackhawks more money/cap space. Stan Bowman the far better GM than Dale Tallon had to clean up the massive cap mess left behind by the "Great" Dale Tallon. Now he doesn't even have a goaltender in Florida to give anyone a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Great asset management here. Instead of trading him before AV completely destroyed his value, we hold onto him and his cap hit until we can't even get a late pick for him. So essentially we gave away Grabner and a 1st for almost nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB007 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I realize people really want to rail on and on about losing Ballard for nothing being the end of the world, but they really should look around before complaining too much. The "have" franchises are all positions where they need to move a contract or two, and there are simply no takers. Boston is facing losing Horton and Ference for nothing (as well as Jagr, a rental they paid a 1st and two prospects for), and they still in a position where they are shopping Seguin. The Rangers are looking to shop the rights to Clowe and will get virtually nothing back after renting him. Minnesota has little choice but to let PM Bouchard and Cullen walk, and would probably give Heatley away for a song if anyone would take him. San Jose just picked up Kennedy, who will eat the majority of their cap space, and then will have to get creative filling a handful of spots with cap space they will have to clear. The Flyers need a goaltender, have an incredible amount of dead cap on their blueline, and very few prospects. For people whining about the Canucks blueline, the Flyers 7th highest paid blueliner is Grossman at 3.5 million. The Capitals will have to let Ribiero walk for nothing, their cap space will be needed to re-sign Alzner, Johansson, and minimal left to fill depth spots. The Kings have Martinez, Muzzin, and Elerby, all RFAs on their blueline to re-sign, and Scuderi a UFA. They also have Cliffford, Lewis and Nolan up front, all RFAs with Penner set to walk as a UFA. They have 6 million to work their magic with those half dozen RFAs, and still a few roster spots to fill out aside from them. They will have some selling/giving away to do. The Ducks have 7.5 million with which to re-sign (or lose) 8 UFAs, including Selanne and Koivu, and 2 RFAs. The Penguins have 7.8 million, but are looking at Iginla, Morrow, Dupuis, Cooke, and Murray - all UFAs - (some they paid heavily to rent) - that's a whole lot of net loss that Canucks fans might want to compare theirs up against. That's also not taking into account a 4 million raise that Letang eats up starting next year, when Orpik and Niskannen become UFAs and Sutter and Despres become RFAs. It was a short time ago that Shero was a god around here - if Vancouver were in his position - the whining would be deafening. Tampa already bit a bullet. and Chicago did some crafty cap dumping already. The Leafs are in a bind. Kadri, Bernier, Franson and Gunnarsson - all RFAs about to eat up the bulk of their cap space - with 13 spots to fill and 16 million to fill them. Macarthur and Bozak are all but lost - they have another 4 RFAs to qualify or lose, while O'Byrne and Kostka are also UFAs. They can't give Phaneuf away and just spent assets on the underachieving 3.4 million cap hit Bolland, a deal that is a real headscratcher considering the state of the buyer's market. The Leafs are in for a summer that, those of us who are sick of their media, are going to enjoy their pain. Losing Ballard isn't that much to whine about in the real context of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Burrows 14 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Damn it gillis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Canuck Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Should Ballard not be claimed and is sent down to the minors he is still an asset for us. The trade market may well pick up after the dust of the new CBA settles a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zduck14 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER My Custom Lineup FORWARDS Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m) David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m) Chris Higgins ($2.500m) /X / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m) Tom Sestito ($0.750m) / X / Dale Weise ($0.750m) DEFENSEMEN Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) Alexander Edler ($5.000m) / Frank Corrado ($0.599m) Jason Garrison ($4.600m) / Chris Tanev ($1.500m) GOALTENDERS Roberto Luongo ($5.333m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $58,302,778; BONUSES: $0 CAP SPACE (17-man roster): $5,997,222 Sooo, that's 2 center spots open. Lappy? Gaunce? Horvat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Buyout - we lose him Keep him - we use him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Great asset management here. Instead of trading him before AV completely destroyed his value, we hold onto him and his cap hit until we can't even get a late pick for him. So essentially we gave away Grabner and a 1st for almost nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckClown Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Derp? However, buying him out means Faq pays him 2/3rds contract value. Ie. Cheaper for him. So while he's 'being cheap' to some people here, he's actually going by far the most expensive route by trading away the cheaper guy and keeping the more expensive guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsedin33 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 If the Islanders claim Ballard, THEN you can say we lost the Grabner trade.....to the Islanders, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raph Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I'd be surprised if Edmonton, Calgary, NYI or Detroit don't grab him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Why is it so difficult for you to understand that the 1/3 savings < signing a different #1. This is notwithstanding the revenue lost from merchandising etc that would vanish via trading Luo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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