CatsPajamas Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Funny how Booth couldn't have been any worse and the trade is still a wash. Good job MG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2SKATES1STICK Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 booth held $4.25m of desperately needed cap in our best years as a franchise, so yeah, that was literally the worst trade possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 booth held $4.25m of desperately needed cap in our best years as a franchise, so yeah, that was literally the worst trade possible. Serious question here: who was out there that the Canucks could have spent this $4.25 million on? I'm assuming a UFA signing rather than a trade. And it would have to be a guy who was available in 2012 as otherwise Samuelsson and Sturm would still be here taking up space. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Not having Booth's cap hit probably could have lead to us keeping Schneider. Assumimg Gillis doesn't pick up someone else down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Gillis was not going to keep two goaltenders past that draft anyways. Would not have made a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Not having Booth's cap hit probably could have lead to us keeping Schneider. Assumimg Gillis doesn't pick up someone else down the road. Interesting thought. I also assume that that money would probably have been used up prior to the Schneider situation coming to the fore. This being said, I suspect that things may have turned out somewhat similar in the goalie situation to how they did even if the Booth cap space were available. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanBeef Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Other than his first 10 games (and his backcheck the game tying goal during game 5 of the LA series) Booth was great for us in his first season. He was physically dominant in the LA series despite only getting 1 assist. Meanwhile Florida got an oldie in samuelsson and a superstar who didn't want to show up everyone in sturm. Cassels is a good bonus. It was a win win trade, as we got our 3rd back and a top 6 forward (that season anyways) while florida got two veterans that they won't be stuck with for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Neither won the trade since The Panthers didn't exactly go deep into the playoffs either but I say the trade hurt the Canucks more in the short/medium term future than the Panthers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Booths 4.25 cap space hurt us like crazy. Unless Cole Cassels becomes a crazy good top 6 player, this trade was a wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S.Strowbridge Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 On the ice, the Canucks won because Cassels appears to be a solid NHL player. However, the cap hit was too much and that hurt the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Who won this trade? Nobody really! Problem for us is, it did not accomplish what it was supposed to. A scoring power forward to play with Kesler. And the team went downhill. We are definitely losers in that respect. Cassels is just a consolation prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Serious question here: who was out there that the Canucks could have spent this $4.25 million on? I'm assuming a UFA signing rather than a trade. And it would have to be a guy who was available in 2012 as otherwise Samuelsson and Sturm would still be here taking up space. regards, G. I think back and honestly, without trading key pieces of the team or what meager prospects we had there was nobody via UFA that could have complimented Kesler in the way people are speaking. That cap space taking back a bad contract with a ++ would have been about it really as I cannot think of anyone we could have grabbed via UFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteeun Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Cole Cassels is a beast. I'm pulling for him to become a gritty 2nd/3rd liner for us. The Ballard trade was ???? awful though. IMO, the worst trade of Gillis' tenure. Not even close...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2SKATES1STICK Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Serious question here: who was out there that the Canucks could have spent this $4.25 million on? I'm assuming a UFA signing rather than a trade. And it would have to be a guy who was available in 2012 as otherwise Samuelsson and Sturm would still be here taking up space. regards, G. So many players signed as UFAs for that amount or less. P.A. Parenteau, for example, I think he'd have liked to come back to Canada and play on a line with a 40 goal scorer. Hartnell ended up being traded while we had booth, their cap space is a wash and umberger doesn't exactly reek trade value, I bet we could have packaged something. Samuelsson at 2.5 + having the flexibility to make a move or ship someone out would have been much better. Imagine Jagr with the Sedins. omg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 and there were plenty of calls to use a compliance buyout on him. The Canucks didn’t, electing to keep him for another season. They didn't "elect to keep him", they couldn't buy Booth out last year. You can't buy out a player on LTI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KassianBeastMode Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Bad trade was bad Learning English is Learning English Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeywoot Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Good hockey trade. Cassels tips it in Vancouver's favour.Florida got to move on from Booth, and shed some future cap space.Vancouver took a gamble on a top-6 player with size, looking to bounceback. They gave up next to nothing. Caphit was a calculated risk.I don't know why some people hate this trade. You're not going to 'win' every trade (not one GM has done that)Did people really expect us to be guaranteed a bonafide top 6 PWF, with what little we gave up?You use the information given and make a decision whether the proposed deal can help your team. Thats it.Not missing Samuelsson nor Sturm. That capspace wasn't going to be used elsewhere either.(weak FA market) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 David Booth won the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prana16 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 You win or lose a trade if you achieve your goal Florida's goal was to shed a bunch of salary and a long term contract not gain talent... they achieved that Vancouvers goal, i'm assuming, was to get a younger bigger player than samuelson .. banking that he would be better than the career year that both samuelson and kesler had together, big fail on that. They also saddled themselves with a large longterm contract that was eating a top 6 position on a team during its window.. big fail #2 Florida achieved its goals.. Vancouver failed at its goals and was stunted from going for plan B Cole Cassels may turn furtunes around in the future but as of now this was a win for florida and a spectacular loss during a critical couple of seasons for vancouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THERETOOL Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 David Booth won the trade hahah I was just gonna write that !! that is the best answer ,and the only one that can't be contested . He won and he won big ! #chaching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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