bleedblue2017 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 If he can bulk up a bit, maybe. Sounds like a decent player, hhhhmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 3 hours ago, DeNiro said: Well that explains why he wasn't taken in the import draft then. That's too bad, I would have liked to follow him in junior. You, me and the Canucks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Seems a bit strange that Třinec wouldn't let Jasek come over (to the CHL via the import draft), yet also hasn't really given him the best opportunity with their senior squad (at least based on the trickle of information I've gotten from a few Euro hockey sites). A bit of a hard line to take on a guy that's not exactly playing a major role for them (at least at the senior level). I suppose the positive is that Třinec must still view him as a valuable asset, which speaks well to his potential to still develop into a pretty good player one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 That's the only thing I can think of, considering they didn't use him much last year. Hopefully it does bode well for his opportunities with them this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted August 11, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, elvis15 said: That's the only thing I can think of, considering they didn't use him much last year. Hopefully it does bode well for his opportunities with them this year. I just did a quick look through the past 10 seasons of HC Třinec's roster and noticed that only a handful of teenagers have even played for the men's team during the last decade. And of all those U-20 players, Jasek actually appears to be one of the prospects given the most opportunity and games. EDIT: Worth noting he's also done better than most of his peers. Typical teenage players on the men's team put up zeros across the board (even the guys who developed into regular roster players later on). The usual pattern for their homegrown players (at least the few teenagers that get games--most don't even play on the men's team until they're much older) appears to be basically a handful of games with the men's team each season until they reach age 20. And even then, they don't get a full season or any significant minutes until about age 22-23. So at least based on what appears to be HC Třinec's development model, Jasek could actually be considered to have gotten preferential treatment (and much more opportunity than the typical teenage prospect). Makes me feel a bit better about the whole thing anyway. Edited August 11, 2016 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Typos and additions (marked) 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Interesting research as usual. It might not seem ideal to us, but you're right, it could be a situation where he's pretty ahead of the usual curve. Hopefully it's the right situation for his development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, elvis15 said: Interesting research as usual. It might not seem ideal to us, but you're right, it could be a situation where he's pretty ahead of the usual curve. Hopefully it's the right situation for his development. I think I'd be more antsy about leaving Jasek overseas if he was more physically developed and still not getting much opportunity or success with the men's team. But he's still a very young 18 based on his musculature and weight (standing at 6'1" and only weighing 172 lbs). So he's probably fine on a longterm development path. Of course, having him in a top CHL program would likely provide him better training and nutrition and all that good stuff. And it would sure be a hell of a lot easier to gauge his performance if he was playing ~70 games a year against CHL competition. But we've now learned that was never really an option. Unfortunately, lengthy stays in the Czech leagues aren't a very well established path the become an NHL player (the Canucks Army article speaks well to the diminishing odds of success for the cohort similar to Jasek). But apparently Jasek only has a year left so we could still get "control" over his development right at the time he becomes AHL eligible (he'd turn 20 just before the 2017-18 season I believe). Edit: I suppose the age requirements don't apply to him anyway. Hopefully he plays half or more of his 2016-17 seasons with the men's team and starts averaging >10 minutes a night. If he can start putting up points at the senior level, it will be a good indicator for whether or not he's worth a contract and what we might expect from him when and if he finally gets over here. Edited August 11, 2016 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 As usual, you've covered it all pretty well. Nothing I can add to that other than I hope the latter scenario does play out with him seeing more playing time and putting up points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agoork Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Juniorský hokej @juniorskyhokej Nominace #U20CZE na Turnaj čtyř zemí v Hodoníně (26. - 28.8.)! #Canucks prospect Lukas Jasek will represent Czech Republic at the #u20FourNations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Jasek's being kept out of the Steel Cup (mini-tournament for a few Czech teams) due to a minor injury. No word on what the injury is. https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hokej.cz%2Ftrinec-vitkovice-rihuv-slovan-nebo-linkoping-steel-cup-napise-treti-dil%2F5017067&edit-text=&act=url Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numb3r 16 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 On August 11, 2016 at 1:51 PM, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: standing at 6'1" and only weighing 172 lbs). HE NEED SOME MILK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuckles80 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 5 hours ago, numb3r 16 said: HE NEED SOME MILK well he's grown 3 inches since we drafted him so he should put on some weight now. The plus is he grew in height Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonecoldstevebernier Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Just noticed that he's already split seven games this season between three different leagues. I hope we can get him signed and over here for next year where his development can be controlled better in the AHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKnight Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Any update on Jasek progress so far this season?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 4GP +1 no points in the top Czech league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedinery33 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 On 10/16/2016 at 4:04 PM, KKnight said: Any update on Jasek progress so far this season?? In 13 games Trinec has played, Jasek has seen action in 4 of those. He is still the youngest player on the team to dress in more than 1 game, but seems to be stuck as the 13th forward on a team that has had a great start to the Czech season at 11W 2L. He has also played in 4 games in Czech 2 league with 3 assists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 13 hours ago, Sedinery33 said: In 13 games Trinec has played, Jasek has seen action in 4 of those. He is still the youngest player on the team to dress in more than 1 game, but seems to be stuck as the 13th forward on a team that has had a great start to the Czech season at 11W 2L. He has also played in 4 games in Czech 2 league with 3 assists doesn't sound like he's getting much playing time? Can he move over to Utica for further development? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedinery33 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 5 hours ago, N4ZZY said: doesn't sound like he's getting much playing time? Can he move over to Utica for further development? You are correct, he is lucky to get 10 mins. a game. No he cannot move over, though the Canucks tried in the offseason, his contract will not allow it and Trinec will not let him go without fulfilling it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 10 hours ago, Sedinery33 said: You are correct, he is lucky to get 10 mins. a game. No he cannot move over, though the Canucks tried in the offseason, his contract will not allow it and Trinec will not let him go without fulfilling it not good for his development then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmalina Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) I already wrote a post (page 7) here trying to explain the situation that can still happen in the Czech League. Team management can still be "old school" style where ice time is distributed according salaries on the roster and veterans therefore play first or second line minutes plus power play. Fortunatelly, this is slowly changing and there are teams giving opportunity to young players (at least 12 mins per game - eg. David Kase in Chomutov) and some teams welcoming youngsters (Vitkovice, Pardubice). Unfortunatelly, Trinec does not appear to be trending that way so for Jasek it is not fair competition to be put in. I believe stubborness instead of developing a player some way plays role for managers many times (for a trade to happen team B (sometimes even parents contribute) must pay to team A). But I don´t have any evidence for the Jasek situation so take it please just as my own opinion. Anyway, some numbers for Jasek in the Czech League: 4 GP, 0 PTS, 5 Shot attempts (3 on goal), AVG TOI = 8:06, AVG PP TOI = 0:01, AVG SH TOI = 0:01, Face-offs = 9/16, PIM = 0, Plus minus = +1 Edited October 20, 2016 by pmalina 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now