Sean Avery Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Fun little poll to see which side most of our fans are on this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Yes. I would like us to go 16-0 in the playoffs this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Tank... Lol Cup or bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'NucK™ Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 not a real Canucks fan if you want them to tank 2 games into the season...imo joining team tank in march, sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Avery Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, 'NucK™ said: not a real Canucks fan if you want them to tank 2 games into the season...imo joining team tank in march, sure A lot of people want them to lose games, because even if they do make the playoffs, they think they will just get knocked out in the 1st round anyway. So a 1st overall pick is more rewarding for them. I'm not a part of Team Tank either... I'm sort of down the mid. Just want our young players to have a good year really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 the way Benning picks I do not think it is going to be a bad pick so why tank??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, cripplereh said: the way Benning picks I do not think it is going to be a bad pick so why tank??? The year we finish 3rd last in the league with our lowest scoring season in 15 years. The 1st forward we pick in the 2016 draft is the 10th leading scorer on the US U18 NTDP William Lockwood. I have never had a bad word to say about a Benning pick because I actually love every single one of them. This isn't about who he picked but more what he had to pick with. After all that pain and suffering last season we ended up with nothing a tanker would really want anyway. So after much thought and deliberation I don't really care if we finish low in the standings because chances are we will only have 1 or 2 picks in the top 100 anyway. If we are winning he won't feel the need or pressure to trade away picks. A tanker will most likely get more of what they want if we actually make the playoffs. This year is also a tremendously weak draft so it's basically a wash anyway. Nolan Patrick isn't going to make or break a franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blömqvist Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 23 minutes ago, cripplereh said: the way Benning picks I do not think it is going to be a bad pick so why tank??? I agree. If we make the playoffs if anything I think we make it as a wild card team just squeaking into the playoffs, meaning a 15, 16, 17, or 18th overall pick after a first, second, or even third round loss. Benning has an eye for talent and just based off of previous drafts we could still find high calibre players in that mid-late teens draft pick range. 2016 Draft 16th Overall - Jakob Chychrun 17th Overall - Dante Fabbro 2015 Draft 16th Overall - Matt Barzal 17th Overall - Kyle Connor 23rd Overall - Brock Boeser 24th Overall - Travis Konecny 35th Overall - Sebastian Aho 2014 Draft 15th Overall - Dylan Larkin 17th Overall - Travis Sanheim 24th Overall - Jared McCann 36th Overall - Thatcher Demko Those picks are all in hindsight but the fact of the matter is is that there are still loads of talent and high calibre players taken outside the top 10 draft picks, and because we have Benning who has an eye for talent we could very well make the playoffs and still draft an impact player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sxqhfeh Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 weak draft year, you don't want to tank for nothing!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 2 hours ago, apollo said: Tank... Lol Cup or bust. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FijianCanuck Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 When we don't have a goalie controversy we have a tanking controversy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianRugby Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Blömqvist said: I agree. If we make the playoffs if anything I think we make it as a wild card team just squeaking into the playoffs, meaning a 15, 16, 17, or 18th overall pick after a first, second, or even third round loss. Benning has an eye for talent and just based off of previous drafts we could still find high calibre players in that mid-late teens draft pick range. 2016 Draft 16th Overall - Jakob Chychrun 17th Overall - Dante Fabbro 2015 Draft 16th Overall - Matt Barzal 17th Overall - Kyle Connor 23rd Overall - Brock Boeser 24th Overall - Travis Konecny 35th Overall - Sebastian Aho 2014 Draft 15th Overall - Dylan Larkin 17th Overall - Travis Sanheim 24th Overall - Jared McCann 36th Overall - Thatcher Demko Those picks are all in hindsight but the fact of the matter is is that there are still loads of talent and high calibre players taken outside the top 10 draft picks, and because we have Benning who has an eye for talent we could very well make the playoffs and still draft an impact player. Jared McCann is an impact player? That's not setting the bar very high. I'm on team tank all the way. 2016 Draft 1st Overall - Auston Matthews 2nd Overall - Patrik Laine 2015 Draft 1st Overall - Connor McDavid 2nd Overall - Jack Eichel 2014 Draft 1st Overall - Aaron Ekblad 2nd Overall - Sam Bennett I'll take some of those guys instead please. Though I'm team tank, I've accepted the fact Vancouver won't fully rebuild. So I'm cheering them on to do well and then see what happens in the playoffs, hoping to not be a bubble team that just misses. But long term I'm patiently waiting for an ownership/GM change and a proper rebuild to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I don't believe the Canucks have the pipeline to fuel this 'retool'. I'll take two years of bottom feeding to get those difference making top line players to replace the Sedins. Once that's done they can gun for the playoffs all they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 49 minutes ago, CanadianRugby said: Jared McCann is an impact player? That's not setting the bar very high. I'm on team tank all the way. 2016 Draft 1st Overall - Auston Matthews 2nd Overall - Patrik Laine 2015 Draft 1st Overall - Connor McDavid 2nd Overall - Jack Eichel 2014 Draft 1st Overall - Aaron Ekblad 2nd Overall - Samson Reinhart I'll take some of those guys instead please. Though I'm team tank, I've accepted the fact Vancouver won't fully rebuild. So I'm cheering them on to do well and then see what happens in the playoffs, hoping to not be a bubble team that just misses. But long term I'm patiently waiting for an ownership/GM change and a proper rebuild to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocolocci Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 4 hours ago, Sean Avery said: A lot of people want them to lose games, because even if they do make the playoffs, they think they will just get knocked out in the 1st round anyway. So a 1st overall pick is more rewarding for them. I'm not a part of Team Tank either... I'm sort of down the mid. Just want our young players to have a good year really. Then they're no Canucks fans.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dura_mater Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 3 hours ago, Blömqvist said: I agree. If we make the playoffs if anything I think we make it as a wild card team just squeaking into the playoffs, meaning a 15, 16, 17, or 18th overall pick after a first, second, or even third round loss. Benning has an eye for talent and just based off of previous drafts we could still find high calibre players in that mid-late teens draft pick range. 2016 Draft 16th Overall - Jakob Chychrun 17th Overall - Dante Fabbro 2015 Draft 16th Overall - Matt Barzal 17th Overall - Kyle Connor 23rd Overall - Brock Boeser 24th Overall - Travis Konecny 35th Overall - Sebastian Aho 2014 Draft 15th Overall - Dylan Larkin 17th Overall - Travis Sanheim 24th Overall - Jared McCann 36th Overall - Thatcher Demko Those picks are all in hindsight but the fact of the matter is is that there are still loads of talent and high calibre players taken outside the top 10 draft picks, and because we have Benning who has an eye for talent we could very well make the playoffs and still draft an impact player. I agree Benning has an eye for talent but I think you, and many other posters, are missing the glaringly obvious. Most of these 2nd, 3rd,4th, 5th round guys he picks up will still be available to pick up whether we have the 1st overall pick or the 10th. Not to mention if you really want a guy in the 2nd round you could trade up, trade a 3rd and 4th etc. So why not get a guy like McDavid, Matthews, Laine etc AND one of those 2nd, 3rd, 4th round gems. It's not an either/or argument. Just because you get the first overall doesn't mean you miss out on all those other players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokes Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 After the years of watching Linden play, I would lose all respect for him if he thought about tanking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wren223 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 How about a third option, just want them to play well and what happens happens? I don't want to tank, because who wants to watch that kind of hockey all year? Also, is the draft that good this year? Is Nolan Patrick a true first overall? I've heard that the top five are much like the 5-10 from the last two years. I also don't think this is a playoff calibre team at the moment. We lack that proven secondary scoring. That may change during the season but at the moment it is a huge question mark. It's also too early to know if this team will keep to the type of pushing, hard working character we've seen in the first two games. Small sample size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AriGold Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 7 hours ago, 'NucK™ said: not a real Canucks fan if you want them to tank 2 games into the season...imo joining team tank in march, sure And why is that ? I'm a seasons ticket holder, paid $5008.25 for my season ticket and I'm all for team tank. I don't believe in the current product on the ice and another tank year can mean some positive things to me. 1. Willie D will likely be gone. 2. We gain 10.5M in contract space from the Burr and Miller departure. 3. We get another top 5 pick in a draft that has some great young hockey players including this guy who I think would be excellent with us. http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=222125 4. Life after the Sedins is coming very soon and we need to stockpile these young kids for that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 38 minutes ago, AriGold said: And why is that ? I'm a seasons ticket holder, paid $5008.25 for my season ticket and I'm all for team tank. I don't believe in the current product on the ice and another tank year can mean some positive things to me. 1. Willie D will likely be gone. 2. We gain 10.5M in contract space from the Burr and Miller departure. 3. We get another top 5 pick in the draft in a draft that has some great young hockey players including this guy who I think would be excellent with us. http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=222125 4. Life after the Sedins is coming very soon and we need to stockpile these young kids for that day. Gave you a +. Not because I agree with you, but because your loyalty shouldn't be called out for having a different opinion. I dont live in in vancouver but even if I did id imagine I'd have a hard time coughing up that much for a season ticket. Everyone here has given something for this franchise. Time, sleep, money. Want the same thing here in the end. It's easy to forget that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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