VIC_CITY Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Obviously the definition of tough guy isn't the same as it used to be but what would your reaction be if Pettersson got concussed again? Or Boeser, Horvat, etc. Lucic was taking run after run tonight. Gudbranson is good for a couple fights a year but we don't really have anyone else that strikes fear in our opponents. With guys like Reaves amd Wilson still playing significant roles in this league, do you think it's an area that needs addressing on our club? When TO drafted Matthews, they went out and got Matt Martin, who was/is about as tough as they come, although not quite the player that he used to be. Do we need our own Matt Martin? I think this fanbase might lose their collective minds if we see another Daniel Sedin and Duncan Keith 2.0. So what should we do? Treat these kids like we treated the Sedins (hope they stay healthy and beat them on the PP) or pay a bit of a premium and acquire some real toughness to deter guys from taking runs at our stars. I'm leaning towards the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokes Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 What do we have Gudbranson for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, VIC_CITY said: Obviously the definition of tough guy isn't the same as it used to be but what would your reaction be if Pettersson got concussed again? Or Boeser, Horvat, etc. Lucic was taking run after run tonight. Gudbranson is good for a couple fights a year but we don't really have anyone else that strikes fear in our opponents. With guys like Reaves amd Wilson still playing significant roles in this league, do you think it's an area that needs addressing on our club? When TO drafted Matthews, they went out and got Matt Martin, who was/is about as tough as they come, although not quite the player that he used to be. Do we need our own Matt Martin? I think this fanbase might lose their collective minds if we see another Daniel Sedin and Duncan Keith 2.0. So what should we do? Treat these kids like we treated the Sedins (hope they stay healthy and beat them on the PP) or pay a bit of a premium and acquire some real toughness to deter guys from taking runs at our stars. I'm leaning towards the latter. Uh, no. I am amazed people can watch a game without actually seeing the game. Canucks outhit the Oilers during the game. Not sure what game you watched but Lucic was slow and ineffective. His "runs" had little impact. Guddy and Virtanen hit harder through the game. Lucic had one decent hit on Motte but ended up hitting the boards more than any real impact on a player otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowBoyCoyote Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I would rather have tough players that can play instead of a goon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 There a lot of question marks when trying to do this; First, the tough guy needs to be a hockey player capable of playing a regular shift, these are hard to come by. Case in point, Matt Martin is not playing a lotgthese days. Also, these guys have been known to "take over a room" and not in a good way. One other thing, Duncan Keith is not a big man, if we had a tough guy, there is no way he would ever fight him. Ultimately, I wouldn't pay too much or trade too much, hopefully Gadjovich will grow into a role of the modern tough guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, VIC_CITY said: Obviously the definition of tough guy isn't the same as it used to be but what would your reaction be if Pettersson got concussed again? Or Boeser, Horvat, etc. Lucic was taking run after run tonight. Gudbranson is good for a couple fights a year but we don't really have anyone else that strikes fear in our opponents. With guys like Reaves amd Wilson still playing significant roles in this league, do you think it's an area that needs addressing on our club? When TO drafted Matthews, they went out and got Matt Martin, who was/is about as tough as they come, although not quite the player that he used to be. Do we need our own Matt Martin? I think this fanbase might lose their collective minds if we see another Daniel Sedin and Duncan Keith 2.0. So what should we do? Treat these kids like we treated the Sedins (hope they stay healthy and beat them on the PP) or pay a bit of a premium and acquire some real toughness to deter guys from taking runs at our stars. I'm leaning towards the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, VIC_CITY said: So what should we do? Treat these kids like we treated the Sedins (hope they stay healthy and beat them on the PP) or pay a bit of a premium and acquire some real toughness to deter guys from taking runs at our stars. I'm leaning towards the latter. I'm not convinced that this actually works anymore. It may have been effective when McSorley was Gretzky's bodyguard, but I don't think guys are intimidated like that anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Nah we fine, Gudbranson and Virt are tough, they both throw big hits. Plus we got guys like Woo and MacEwen coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 The Bruins had a bunch of meatheads on their team but it still didn't stop Cooke ending Savard's career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said: Uh, no. I am amazed people can watch a game without actually seeing the game. Canucks outhit the Oilers during the game. Not sure what game you watched but Lucic was slow and ineffective. His "runs" had little impact. Guddy and Virtanen hit harder through the game. Lucic had one decent hit on Motte but ended up hitting the boards more than any real impact on a player otherwise. I'm not talking about hitting as a statistic, nor am I talking about Lucic's effectiveness throughout that game. But seeing Lucic take several good runs throughout the game (even if he missed a couple of them) just got me thinking that we're one big hit away from this becoming a hot topic in this market again. I think some added size/toughness would be a good area for JB to target this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Toews said: The Bruins had a bunch of meatheads on their team but it still didn't stop Cooke ending Savard's career. Ya but it won them a Stanley Cup... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rocket Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Another one of these threads, eh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, goalie13 said: I'm not convinced that this actually works anymore. It may have been effective when McSorley was Gretzky's bodyguard, but I don't think guys are intimidated like that anymore. I don't know...seeing Reaves take out Wilson, you know how valuable he is to that Vegas team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, VIC_CITY said: Ya but it won them a Stanley Cup... Chara and Thomas won them their cup. Lucic was a non factor unless you count Hamhuis taking himself out by trying to throw a hipcheck on him. That rat also was also a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, NewbieCanuckFan said: Chara and Thomas won them their cup. Lucic was a non factor unless you count Hamhuis taking himself out by trying to throw a hipcheck on him. That rat also was also a factor. The physical advantage that they had, along with the way that series was officiated was the reason they won the Stanley Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, VIC_CITY said: The physical advantage that they had, along with the way that series was officiated was the reason they won the Stanley Cup. Nope. Our guys were injured ( blue line) before the series started. We’ll have to agree to disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 We have one developing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Qwags said: We have one developing. I hope you're right. Utica has been such a log jam this year. I was hoping Gadj would be an every day guy in Utica this year and then challenge for a spot on the Canucks next year but it looks like we're taking the patient route with most of our prospects, so we'll have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 There aren't really any that can take a regular shift out there to acquire. Sestito cant do much from the bench. If things go crash bang I feel Roussel, Gudbranson, Beagle, Bo, Virtanen, Levio, Sutter, Edler, Hutton, could see an uptick in icetime without hurting us defensively. If the opposition starts throwing out plugs the Canucks will feast on the scoreboard. Sure a Tkachuk Ferland Simmonds, would be sweet. Don't see those type players being passed around for spare parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyotasfan Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 https://tenor.com/p6Bt.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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