coastal.view Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: I'll do my best. The league won't get into worrying about trade conditions, all they need to do is determine the standings. Seems like it will be based on point percentage if the tweety talking heads are correct but we have to wait and see. oh come on you can do better then this nucks did not actually derive the benefit they bargained for in the miller trade they did not actually make the playoffs or reap any playoff revenue from this deal that clearly was expected from 1st round compensation at the very least the 1st rounder should be downgraded to perhaps a 2nd rounder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 23 minutes ago, coastal.view said: nucks did not actually derive the benefit they bargained for in the miller trade yes we did, we've got him for 3 more years 24 minutes ago, coastal.view said: they did not actually make the playoffs we may have - have to wait and see the ruling on who's in 24 minutes ago, coastal.view said: or reap any playoff revenue from this deal that clearly was expected from 1st round compensation too soon to say, we have to see in a month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: yes we did, we've got him for 3 more years we may have - have to wait and see the ruling on who's in too soon to say, we have to see in a month not wanting to argue against you wanting to argue with you to put the nucks in the best position on this trade time to get creative i say the starting position is that the nucks did not get what they bargained for and some relief is in order because the mechanism of the trade as it was framed cannot be carried out cancelling the trade does not work either as the nucks "developed" miller from a 3rd line player to a 1st line player that is a remarkable improvement in asset value i think we may have a day or 2, maybe 3, where these sorts of hockey based discussions will actually have value after that this will seem more trivial so i'm using this short time frame to get a final hockey fix before my interest will be suspended due to life circumstances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBrew Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, HomeBrew said: Best 1st rounder trade ever. Edited March 13, 2020 by Me_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 9 hours ago, HomeBrew said: And Miller is way more than just a point produces. He’s a big, hard to play against guy too. He’s a complete player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 On 3/3/2020 at 4:14 AM, BarnBurner said: Actually, I think that's pretty much how it played out... Miller for 1st '20 or '21 - 3rd '19 - Mazanec Toffoli for Madden - 2nd '20 - Schaller Let's just hope we are able to resign Toffoli. Well that’s the point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Me_ said: Well that’s the point... I’m hoping each team gets two of those compliance buyouts this summer to help with the loss of revenue from the league shutdown. Then we buy out Loui and Myers. Saves us 12 million. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Alflives said: I’m hoping each team gets two of those compliance buyouts this summer to help with the loss of revenue from the league shutdown. Then we buy out Loui and Myers. Saves us 12 million. Myers. Why the hell Myers? The Canucks aren’t as good without Myers. This is not Gudbranson. I like Myers’ play and also his nasty. He stands up for others. Eriksson & Sutter are my choices. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Me_ said: Myers. Why the hell Myers? The Canucks aren’t as good without Myers. This is not Gudbranson. I like Myers’ play and also his nasty. He stands up for others. Eriksson & Sutter are my choices. Myers has four more years at six million. With the cap coming down, or at best stagnating, for a couple years we need to cut cap that carries into next year and the years after. Tree is a way cheaper and better option than Myers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnBurner Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, Me_ said: Well that’s the point... No. The point was and still is... whoever I was quoting added Petey into the equation. Which I pointed out, removed and then it basically boiled down to exactly what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, BarnBurner said: No. The point was and still is... whoever I was quoting added Petey into the equation. Which I pointed out, removed and then it basically boiled down to exactly what happened. Yes friend. The point was to illustrate what the entire first line cost in assets. And then the question, would you do that trade. I posted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: Myers has four more years at six million. With the cap coming down, or at best stagnating, for a couple years we need to cut cap that carries into next year and the years after. Tree is a way cheaper and better option than Myers. Myers is worth his six million dollars a year. Eriksson isn’t worth his. Sutter’s time in Vancouver should come to an end. He has a lot of energy but he tends to lose dump and chase battles. I think the game has passed him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Me_ said: Myers is worth his six million dollars a year. Eriksson isn’t worth his. Sutter’s time in Vancouver should come to an end. He has a lot of energy but he tends to lose dump and chase battles. I think the game has passed him. Sutter and Baer both need to go too, but they only have next season left. I wouldn’t use a compliance buyout on a guy with only one season left, when Myers has 4 years at 6 mil left on his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: Sutter and Baer both need to go too, but they only have next season left. I wouldn’t use a compliance buyout on a guy with only one season left, when Myers has 4 years at 6 mil left on his. Alf. Players have long-term contracts. That’s how it works. Come on man. 4yrs of Myers for what he brings is fine by me. The Canucks have bigger problems than Myers’ play. Eriksson, Sutter, Bärtschi, Goldobin is plenty off the books. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower102 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 On 3/13/2020 at 7:40 AM, Alflives said: Myers has four more years at six million. With the cap coming down, or at best stagnating, for a couple years we need to cut cap that carries into next year and the years after. Tree is a way cheaper and better option than Myers. Is the cap coming down due to the lost revenue from this season shut down? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Tower102 said: Is the cap coming down due to the lost revenue from this season shut down? I’m guessing the cap has to adjust, because of lost revenue. I’m hopeful the league gives each team a couple compliance buyouts to help get them through the difficult time. Buying out Loui and Myers saves us 12 million off the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 14 hours ago, Alflives said: I’m guessing the cap has to adjust, because of lost revenue. I’m hopeful the league gives each team a couple compliance buyouts to help get them through the difficult time. Buying out Loui and Myers saves us 12 million off the cap. Okay alf who replaces Myers ? his a top four D , that can play in all areas.....edler and Myers make a good two way pairing and Myers would work with OJ or Rathbone in theory also. So having Myers and the type D prospects we have benefit each other...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, RowdyCanuck said: Okay alf who replaces Myers ? his a top four D , that can play in all areas.....edler and Myers make a good two way pairing and Myers would work with OJ or Rathbone in theory also. So having Myers and the type D prospects we have benefit each other...... well since there will be so many other players bought out as well we can sign a former high paid player like meyers for a league minimum salary maybe the nhl will waive the requirement that bought out players cannot return to their former team so then buy out meyers and re-sign him to a 5 year contract at league minimum salary per season Edited March 15, 2020 by coastal.view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 1 minute ago, coastal.view said: well since there will be so many other players bought out as well we can sign a former high paid player like meyers for a league minimum salary maybe the nhl will waive the requirement that bought out players cannot return to their former team so then buy out meyers and re-sign him to a 5 year contract at league minimum salary per season Didn't Colorado do that, then the caps signed orpik or how ever you spell his name...for dirty cheap..... but is the risk worth it? Myers could go sign some where else, you want to take that risk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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