BrockBoester Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Qwags said: Boeser confirmed to be holding out so he could skip the bag skate. rofl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrockBoester Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Hogs & Podz said: Setting president 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Good bridge contract without being insulting like some of the 1-2 year deals that go around. This will be an important time for our young kids, essentially it's an extension on his ELC. He'll really want to prove his worth which is much better than just dishing out a long term 8 yr deal. I think we're going to see a motivated Boeser in the next couple of seasons. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckYa Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Steal of a Deal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, JamesB said: My two cents: 1. I have to give credit to Benning. This is a good deal for the Canucks. I was thinking that a 3-year deal would maybe come in with an AAV of 6 million, and even that would be pretty good. Getting under 6 million is excellent. 2. I was thinking a deal would be 3, 4, or 6 years. Obviously neither side wanted a one-year deal-- going through all this again next year. And the Canucks would not want a 2-year deal with EP and Hughes coming up in two years and and with Eriksson and Luongo still on the books. After 3 years a lot of room will open up, as noted by Heffy. The Canucks would not want 5 years because Boeser would no longer be an RFA after 5 years. Teams usually think that their best chance of getting a guy on a reasonable post-RFA contract is to negotiate a long term deal while he is a still an RFA. The Canucks would have liked a 6-year deal but the most they could offer given their current cap situation was about 7 million in AAV and obviously Boeser did not think that was enough. 3. By taking this deal instead of the 6 years x 7 AAV, Boeser gives up (7 - 5.875)*3 = 3.375 or 1.125 per year for the next 3 years. But he can make that up if he gets more than (7.0 + 1.125) = 8.125 a year for the following three years. Given expectations about what is likely to happen to the cap and projecting Boeser's trajectory, I would put his expected AAV at about 9 million per year for those years. So, apart from discounting, I would expect that Boeser gains about 3*0.875 = 2.65 million in total expected value by taking this deal instead of the 7 x 6 deal -- not a huge difference, but something. And there is also the chance that he gets a significantly bigger contract in year 4 if things go really well. Still, if I were Boeser, I might have taken 7 x 6. 4. One thing that made this deal attractive to Boeser was the high salary in the final year -- following the pattern of some other reasonable "bridge" deals. Boeser's QO will be 7.5 million for year 4 so he will get at least that in years 4 and 5 (assuming that he remains healthy and plays well enough that the Canucks want to keep him), and could then cash in with a big payday in year 6 when he is a UFA. That is the min and he could do better. I think that Benning has really improved his cap management. After some questionable deals early in his term as GM, including Eriksson and the Sutter re-resigning, among others, he has been pretty good. Horvat is on a good deal and so is Boeser. And this year's UFA signings look much better than in previous years years. Yes absolutely spot on James. I do think that one of the main issues in this new contract was the final year salary. I’m sure the Meier contract had agents saliva going all over the country, and the common ground discussions were for the final year salary. Not sure, who blinked first. The only issue could be that he will only sign for another 2 years after these 3 has been played out... but at least we would then have had him for 5. This being the reason why JB wanted him for a 6-7 year deal, together with the fact it could probably be seen as a discounted deal once looked back at... But all in all a great deal for both sides and just so pleased it over with now. The future looks rosy and like dawn the sky is slowly but surely getting brighter all the time. So happy right now. Edited September 17, 2019 by spook007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, cuporbust said: Lol. If he earns his way to 10 mill, I'd say we are in good shape dont you? Not worried Well unless Canucks goes on another free agent and trading frenzy and goes all out Eriksson and Sutter again Edited September 17, 2019 by iinatcc 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, iinatcc said: Well unless Canucks goes on another free agent and trading frenzy and goes all out Eriksson and Sutter again C’mon... at least give us a day or two to be happy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Canucks Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Next July 1st, I hope Benning locks up Pettersson and Hughes to their next contracts, getting them out of the way early, instead of waiting until the year after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Canucks Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 11 hours ago, VIC_CITY said: Warning: Unpopular opinion Am I the only person on here that was hoping for a MacAvoy/Werenski AAV considering Boeser's lack of leverage? I don't hate the contract but is BB really worth almost a million more than those 2? I'd say Brock did pretty damn good here. Edit: I should have known better than to post this on CDC lol. I love Brock but MacAvoy's the more valuable player of the 2. No, he's not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AlwaysACanuckFan Posted September 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) Edited September 17, 2019 by AlwaysACanuckFan 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stawns Posted September 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, spook007 said: Yes absolutely spot on James. I do think that one of the main issues in this new contract was the final year salary. I’m sure the Meier contract had agents saliva going all over the country, and the common ground discussions were for the final year salary. Not sure, who blinked first. The only issue could be that he will only sign for another 2 years after these 3 has been played out... but at least we would then have had him for 5. This being the reason why JB wanted him for a 6-7 year deal, together with the fact it could probably be seen as a discounted deal once looked back at... But all in all a great deal for both sides and just so pleased it over with now. The future looks rosy and like dawn the sky is slowly but surely getting brighter all the time. So happy right now. It was absolutely critical that JB set the precedent with this contract and show that he can keep his RFA's under control and reasonable, it is the key to an extended window. I'd say he hit a home run with this one, his best deal yet, imo. Cant wait to listen to my leaf fan buddies run this one down. Edited September 17, 2019 by stawns 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosmo Kramer Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 They really knocked this out of the park! I admit I was getting frustrated of him not signing before the team started skating but I am glad to see it get done. The term is good, gives the Canucks control for next time and the Qualifying offer for his next contract is 5.8Mil which is extremely reasonable. Great job Canucks. Glad he's back and I like the price tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 9 hours ago, Spoosh said: Great. Never in doubt but it took a while longer than I would have wanted. Nice deal btw. I was expecting a higher AAV to be honest. I think the stumbling block was never money, I think it was term. I imagine the team wanted 4-5 years at least. But it all got worked out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 8 hours ago, JamesB said: I think that Benning has really improved his cap management. Good post until you added this thoughtless nonsense in. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 28 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said: That's an interesting quote... 'market changed'. Should have taken the leaked $7m 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ghostsof1915 Posted September 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said: Dhaliwal said he wasn't going to talk about Brock possibly bolting at the end of the contract, yet Brock's agent jokes about it. Even Hankinson must have been listening to 650. Rick needs to be less of a drama queen. Edited September 17, 2019 by Ghostsof1915 1 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jester13 Posted September 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Dhaliwal said he wasn't going to talk about Brock possibly bolting at the end of the contract, yet Brock agent jokes about it. Even Hankinson must have been listening to 650. Rick needs to be less of a drama queen. Was just about to post a similar sentiment. I love how his agent squashed it. Helps ease people's minds... hopefully. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 not Sure why so many are praising Benning for this,this is 80% the the agent/players deal, Nucks wanted long term they didn’t get it. This was the best deal Benning could TAKE because of his cap mismanagement. I was hoping for long term as well glad they got it done regardless of who made it happen, and happy he didn’t miss ANYTIME the first 4days of camp constitutes not missing anything unless your a nit picking ..... . 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jester13 Posted September 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 minute ago, combover said: not Sure why so many are praising Benning for this,this is 80% the the agent/players deal, Nucks wanted long term they didn’t get it. This was the best deal Benning could TAKE because of his cap mismanagement. I was hoping for long term as well glad they got it done regardless of who made it happen, and happy he didn’t miss ANYTIME the first 4days of camp constitutes not missing anything unless your a nit picking ..... . This deal is the new RFA reality. Benning has arguably the best RFA deal so far with a team's star. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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