Gollumpus Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Where he was drafted is entirely irrelevant. In the case of Bozak, it is possible to negotiate terms with a player as part of the process of a deal - and would rather take him than Kadri, who imo is a poor fit - not a very good option for the third line, and certainly not the kind of 2nd line RW I have in mind. To me, that would be an opening type offer from Toronto. My response would be make it a 1st, add Franson's rights, don't bother countering, and I'll get back to you after I've surveyed the competing bids. Another aspect of that deal that I like is the cap hit. It gives the Canucks nearly another 3 million to work with - and if Bozak agrees to reasonable terms (a very moderate increase in his salary), I wouldn't complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks fan in chicago Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Luongo has never been a team player anyway. He's always put his needs before his team. The Canucks need more 'Heart and Soul' guys on this team. I hate how Luongo feels he's automatically deserved a number one spot in Vancouver.....NO, you've gotta earn your spot Lu, instead of complaining and asking to be traded PROVE that you deserve the spot over Schneider. I'll be GLAD when Luongo is gone, that self centered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Just curious: What would be your fall back asset if Bozak did something crazy like say he didn't want to play here? Maybe Colborne might serve I suppose, although there are some weaknesses in his game. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Exactly my concern. After this season, Bozak decides to go for a big raise that we can't afford. Frattin is a decent NHLer but has a ceiling of a third or fourth liner. And the 2nd round pick ends up being an average prospect like Sauve or Rodin. Then what would we have to show for trading Luongo? A third liner? All while the Leafs have a number 1 goalie for the next 5 years, and make the playoffs every year. Oh, and we get stuck with part of Luongo's cap hit when he retires...Yea, great deal for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangelos Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Exactly my concern. After this season, Bozak decides to go for a big raise that we can't afford. Frattin is a decent NHLer but has a ceiling of a third or fourth liner. And the 2nd round pick ends up being an average prospect like Sauve or Rodin. Then what would we have to show for trading Luongo? A third liner? All while the Leafs have a number 1 goalie for the next 5 years, and make the playoffs every year. Oh, and we get stuck with part of Luongo's cap hit when he retires...Yea, great deal for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Luongo has never been a team player anyway. He's always put his needs before his team. The Canucks need more 'Heart and Soul' guys on this team. I hate how Luongo feels he's automatically deserved a number one spot in Vancouver.....NO, you've gotta earn your spot Lu, instead of complaining and asking to be traded PROVE that you deserve the spot over Schneider. I'll be GLAD when Luongo is gone, that self centered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigs_eye10 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 there is a 32.333 all across percentage chance that luongo will get traded to the leafs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks fan in chicago Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 What are you talking about?? If you don't think Luongo is a proven elite goalie you have some serious problems. Also how is Lu not a team player when he has said he would be willing to waive his no-trade and gave Gillis the green light to do whats right for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Just curious: What would be your fall back asset if Bozak did something crazy like say he didn't want to play here? Maybe Colborne might serve I suppose, although there are some weaknesses in his game. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 So you're saying that having a backup goaltender is more important than having a center like Tyler Bozak? As it stands now, our 2nd line C is Max Lapierre. Promising? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I'm not so worried about age, more about value coming back. We're taking a 4th round pick from 07', a free agent signing and soon to be UFA in Bozak, as well as a throw in 2nd round pick. These scraps combined do not equal Luongo. Most people on here we struggling with the idea of Bozak, Kadri, and a 2nd, when that return is clearly superior to this new rumour. At least in this deal we get a top prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quint Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 <p><br /> The only reason Luongo wants a trade is because he's finally had competition for the starting job. What I'm saying is, a player who is a team player won't care where they play, they just want the team to win. Luongo is showing no loyalty to the Canucks especially after signing the long term contract extension, he figured he would retire as a Canuck. But as soon as Schneider developed and replaced Luongo, he immediately wanted out. Which means one of 2 things- He's only interested in money or he's only interested in playing on a team where he's not contested for the starting job, which is never a good thing and shows that Luongo thinks he's better than Schneider when last season proved that was not the case and proves my point that Luongo is not a team player.<br /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberries Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 . Where's the logic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Projected Florida line up: Fleischmann - Weiss - Versteeg Bergenheim - Huberdeau - Kopecky Goc - Matthias - Upshall Mueller - Santorelli - Parros Skille, Kovalev (PTO) That lineup isn't exactly deep at centre. I believe Huberdeau might even be used on the wing. I can't see Florida trading their top centre in Weiss, for Luongo. Even if they did, do we want an offensive minded, undersized forward centering our 3rd line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Here's a twist I'd like to see. MG agrees to pay none of Luo's salary and retain none of his cap hit. The Leafs must agree to terms on a re-up with Bozak prior to cutting a deal, and they must pay half his salary, and retain half of his cap hit haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Exactly my concern. After this season, Bozak decides to go for a big raise that we can't afford. Frattin is a decent NHLer but has a ceiling of a third or fourth liner. And the 2nd round pick ends up being an average prospect like Sauve or Rodin. Then what would we have to show for trading Luongo? A third liner? All while the Leafs have a number 1 goalie for the next 5 years, and make the playoffs every year. Oh, and we get stuck with part of Luongo's cap hit when he retires...Yea, great deal for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigneault's Timeout Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 If I were Luongo, I would have had a post-lockout bunker prepared before the season started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Personally I'd take Bozak and Kadri for luongo straight up, huge offensive boost, centre stability and cap relief for this year, next year I think we can find some cap room for Edler and Bozak, just need to trade / buyout Ballard or booth for picks, The prospects we have in our pool will hopefully keep us in a good cap situation for the next couple of years, kassian / kadri / jensen / schroeder (?) / gaunce (?) / rodin (?) connaughton / tanev / corrado we have good prospects in the system and hopefully they turn to studs when our existing studs decide to retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 TOR Luongo Ballard Raymond Hansen 1st VAN Phaneuf Kessel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiDeN Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 If Bozak helps us get a cup then Who cares if he walks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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