timberz21 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Dal Collie Henrik JensenShinkaruk Couturier KassianMatthias Horvat BurrowsHiggins Santorelli HansenRichardson Dalphe Daniel Sedin will never be the same again, it's time to move on.and do what exactly with him? Leave him in the press box? You know you can't trade him right? At least not if Henrik is not going too, but even then I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Sedin-Sedin-KassianBurrows-Kesler*-Jensen (Call-up Shinkaruk when top 6 injured)Higgins-Matthias-HansenSestito-Lain-ArchibaldI'm pretty sure MG will sign a bottom 6 UFA for depth as well.* Or Roster player coming back in Kesler trade (Schenn, Couturier, Sutter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorwegianCanuck Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Solution to our woes? Assuming Jensen can play the way he has - big assumption yes but let him develop, and 2 Horvat can make the jump Burrows Sedin Jensen - anyone watching recently can see the chemistry here. Hank has not lost it, I fear Daniel has been the drag on that line. He has transitioned to more of a passer than shooter since the 'hit'. So make him a playmaker. Daniel Horvat Kesler - no brainer here. Keep Kes, put him on the wing, teaches Horvat how to play the role he played so well for so many years. Horvat distributes well, as does Daniel. Kesler up and down the wing, big young center in the middle (isn't that what people want from a Kesler deal? Well we have one, use him) Higgins Santo Kassian - great gritty line with decent hands. Also allows Kass to learn from 2 junk yard dogs, guys who give it all every night Matthias Richardson Hansen - a proper 4th line that can eat minutes and can contribute Very little changes folks and we have a hell of a team. I think MG hoped this would happen this year and it didn't. But I look at that lineup and think, heck, that can compete with anyone, has hands, speed, grit and more importantly depth on the 3rd and 4th lines to allow the top 2 to rest. Its a third and 4th that lets Torts roll them like AV... Just need Horvat to show he was worth Schnieds and I think he will (not to mention, we get 3 of our future core to be tutored properly by the types of players we want them to become (Jensen - sniper / Horvat 2 way / Kassian - grit and effort) This is what I would like to see. We will also have Shinkaruk available, and with bounceback years from the Sedins and Burrows, that top-6 is dangerous. Good grit on the third line and a highly skilled 4th line. No Booth gives us cap space for a veteran goalie to back up Eddie Lack and perhaps a UFA PP-specialist D-man instead of Edler, and we should be golden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterHorvatBure Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 So people basically want a repeat of this year ? Guys, Kesler is gone. Half our current team is gone. The Sedins may be moved for a shot at the cup and it's definitely a possibility. We have younger guys to build our team around like Horvat, Jensen. Fox looks good but he's playing alongside mcdavid so I don't know what to say there. Shinkaruk looks like he will be in the top 6 next year or soon after. We need veteran guys to eat up those third and fourth line minutes while having the young guns lighting it up offensively. Horvat Shinkaruk Schroeder ( so what happened to the people complaining about his size? He doesn't get thrown around because he plays like he's bigger) Jensen Fox Matthias Let these guys play together and gain chemistry because this could very well be our top 6 sooner than later. It might be just me, but I'd rather watch a team that is young and learning from its mistakes, rather than an old team clawing to make it up the standings when it's near impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Either way I say Hansen has to go. He's been holding a spot where lots of other guys on this team can play but also because he keeps making his way onto the top 2 lines. Kassian should be playing 3rd line RW, Burrows can play there, Mattias can probably play there if need be as well. Sedin Sedin Jensen UFA Kesler Kassian Higgins Mattias Burrows Sestito Richardson UFA Horvat/Gaunce Kassian Burrows and Jensen can then all switch around. Keep Higgins grounded to the 3rd line LW spot. Perhaps keep Burrows and Jensen on the first line and move Daniel to the second line. That could work too if the Sedins can handle not playing together and can work at something new. I really hope this is the case because they became stale a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Sedin, Sedin, Burrows/Jensen Higgins, Kesler/trade/UFA, Jensen/prospect/UFA Horvat, Matthias, Burrows/Kassian Sestito, Richardson, Hansen/Kassian/prospect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 1. Let me know how Jensen looks after a decent sample size before annointing him saviour please. 2. We r not making a run next year either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 1) Kesler, Edler, Shinkaruk, 2nd for Malkin 2) Hansen for Orlov 3) Sign Markov 2 years, $6 mil per 4) Sign Callahan 6 years, $5.75 mil per 5) Buyout Booth 6) Sign Elliott 1 year, $2.5 mil 7) Re-sign Santo, Tanev, Kassian, Schroeder Sedin-Malkin-Callahan Burrows-Sedin-Jensen Higgins-Horvat-Santo Richardson-Matthias-Kassian Schroeder/Sestitio Hamhuis-Tanev Garrison-Markov Orlov-Bieksa Stanton/Corrado Lack Elliott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaji Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Here is my proposed lineup. I know we want young guys to make the jump butSedin - Sedin - BurrowsCamalleri(6M x 2yrs) - Stastny(6.5M x 3yrs) - KeslerHiggins - Matthais - Santo - (2 x 1.5M)Horvat - Richardson - KassianArchibald or Sestito or both depending on if Horvat stays or notHamhuis - TanevGarrison - Niskanen (4.5 x 3yrs) PP QB/PMDStanton - BieksaPaul Postma (trade)Lack & MarkstromTrade 1:Wpg - HansenVan - Postman & 2nd pick 2015Trade 2:Det - EdlerVan - Sproul & Athanasiou & 2nd rd pick 2015Checked this on cap geek and it works within the cap.Note:- I don't necessarily think we can sign 2 top 6 forwards but worst case scenario we have one of Jensen/Kassia or Shink make the team as a top 6. Though If we want to be serious contenders we should really look to add 2 top 6 forwards. There are other options beside Cammy & Stastny like Legwand, Moulson, Vrbata, Hemsky that we could target for cheaper if those 2 don't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 The second line is really the big question mark at this point IMO. It appears any of Burrows, Kassian or Jensen could play with the twins (and likely will as injuries/slumps occur). And the bottom two lines are largely interchangeable pieces that will sort out once the top two lines are fairly set. Will Kesler be traded? If so, for what return? Will we sign a top 6 UFA? Will Jensen or any of the other prospects make the top 6? Then there's our D. As is, it's pretty much set with Hammer, Bieksa, Edler and Garrison all having NTC's. Tanev will require a raise and we have Stanton to fill out the top 6. Prospects, Weber, UFA's etc can fill in depth/spares. I can't see us moving Tanev or Stanton unless they're part of a much larger trade for a big name. Does one of the NTC guys want out? Doesn't sound like it. Only other major change I could see would be signing a veteran goalie to shelter Lack a bit and play 25-30'ish games. Even then, I think they're probably at least mostly comfortable going with the young tandem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Dal Collie Henrik Jensen Shinkaruk Couturier Kassian Matthias Horvat Burrows Higgins Santorelli Hansen Richardson Dalphe Daniel Sedin will never be the same again, it's time to move on. Ha ha Your 4th line is better than the first 3. Regarding Daniel...up until a few days ago, a lot of people around here had given up on Burr. Things change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Kesler gets traded for first overall pick and we keep our first, thenSedins/FoxJensen/Horvat/KassainShinkaruk/Gaunce/HigginsSestito/Mathias/Archie or VirtanenHansenEkblad/TanevHamhuis/BeiksaGarrison/CorradoStantonWe may suck for awhile but those kids would outplay this team the way they are playing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 This one is better Here's the full version. Some of those are truly impressive. Others are so minor, that I had forgotten what they sounded like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeywoot Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 sedin sedin jensenburrows KESLER RETURN kassianhiggins horvat santorellibooth matthias hansen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Kesler gets traded for first overall pick and we keep our first, then Sedins/Fox Jensen/Horvat/Kassain Shinkaruk/Gaunce/Higgins Sestito/Mathias/Archie or Virtanen Hansen Ekblad/Tanev Hamhuis/Beiksa Garrison/Corrado Stanton We may suck for awhile but those kids would outplay this team the way they are playing now. Kesler is not getting us the first overall pick. That's laughable. Other teams were offering us scraps for Kes at the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyLow_ Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Solution to our woes? Assuming Jensen can play the way he has - big assumption yes but let him develop, and 2 Horvat can make the jump Burrows Sedin Jensen - anyone watching recently can see the chemistry here. Hank has not lost it, I fear Daniel has been the drag on that line. He has transitioned to more of a passer than shooter since the 'hit'. So make him a playmaker. Daniel Horvat Kesler - no brainer here. Keep Kes, put him on the wing, teaches Horvat how to play the role he played so well for so many years. Horvat distributes well, as does Daniel. Kesler up and down the wing, big young center in the middle (isn't that what people want from a Kesler deal? Well we have one, use him) Higgins Santo Kassian - great gritty line with decent hands. Also allows Kass to learn from 2 junk yard dogs, guys who give it all every night Matthias Richardson Hansen - a proper 4th line that can eat minutes and can contribute Very little changes folks and we have a hell of a team. I think MG hoped this would happen this year and it didn't. But I look at that lineup and think, heck, that can compete with anyone, has hands, speed, grit and more importantly depth on the 3rd and 4th lines to allow the top 2 to rest. Its a third and 4th that lets Torts roll them like AV... Just need Horvat to show he was worth Schnieds and I think he will (not to mention, we get 3 of our future core to be tutored properly by the types of players we want them to become (Jensen - sniper / Horvat 2 way / Kassian - grit and effort) Of what we have now, I agree that those should be the forwards. I doubt Horvat is ready to play 2nd line though, but that's the beauty of this group of forwards...He could play 3rd or 4th line with good players and have success. Richardson can be the spare forward, Tostitos, Booth, Dalpe, Welsh, Archibad see ya later.. No clue what to do with Schroeder, he's small but not fast or terribly skilled. I really do think he needs more time in the AHL, he's just not skilled enough to play top 6 or big enough to play bottom 6. Regardless of what happens with Kes we need to sign a top 6 winger and change the Defensive group somehow. Won't be easy with the no trades, but we need a dan boyle type back there or this team is boned. Unless we trade rape someone I do not believe Kes goes anywhere, it would be the actual signal from the owners that they are okay with not making the playoffs. I personally believe they are too greedy for playoff revenue to rebuild, if they aren't than they are incompetent which is worse. Any competent management group would have done it at the last draft when it was optimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 There have been a couple line up threads recently. If there weren't so many redundant threads you'd have been able to find it. Having the search back up would help too, but trust me, it's been brought up. EDIT: here's some: lineup for next season? (March 9) The Future of this team and the direction it is going (March 6) Fill the lineup next year (March 5) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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