thad Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I wonder if this could be why they've been having extended meetings with Kesler? Perhaps there's a Florida offer and they wanna sell it to Ryan. No doubt if Tallon is looking to shop the pick for win now vets, Kesler would be better than anything else he could get. It really isn't that bad from keslers point of view. Florida isn't in complete disarray like buffalo. They just got the go ahead to spend money, got a franchise goalie and loads of young talent. Another move or 2 and they could be in the mix. Tallon has 2 yrs to get something going for him or he can walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 To Buff: Edler, Higgins/Burrows, Schroeder, 3rd round pick Right...because those first 3 can't wait to waive their NTCs to go to the worst team in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 To Ana: Kesler To Buff: Etem, 10th overall, rights to Jordan schroeder To Van: 2nd overall, Ana 2014 1st 2nd overall draft Reinhart 6th overall draft Nylander Center future: Nylander 1st line. Reinhart second line. Horvat 3rd line. I think this is the best proposal so far. Kesler will not waive his NTC to go to one of the top 5 teams. Buf gets some nice pieces, but might demand the 6th over the 10th. I think JB would choose Virtanen over Nylander if he has the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGokou Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I wonder if this could be why they've been having extended meetings with Kesler? Perhaps there's a Florida offer and they wanna sell it to Ryan. No doubt if Tallon is looking to shop the pick for win now vets, Kesler would be better than anything else he could get. It really isn't that bad from keslers point of view. Florida isn't in complete disarray like buffalo. They just got the go ahead to spend money, got a franchise goalie and loads of young talent. Another move or 2 and they could be in the mix. Tallon has 2 yrs to get something going for him or he can walk. An interesting thought. I know nothing of the ambitions and motives of hockey players but I have to admit, going to an up and coming team like florida is not a bad option. Plus it's florida....pretty awesome if you ask me. Kesler, consult with your family and get it done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALMO to BURE Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Dream Scenario: Edler to Detroit for Mantha straight upHansen + Booth to NYI for 2ndKesler + 2nd + 2nd to TB for Drouinthen draft Ritchie Ritchie Drouin ManthaShinkaruk Henrik KassianThat is my dream too. I have been a big fan of Mantha since before he was drafted and Drouin... That's a hell of a dream! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I LOVE how in one page of a thread Kesler is worth more than just the 1st because the 1st is JUST a prospect and a risk Yet not a few posts later Kesler is maybe worth Mantha (a prospect) straight up, but we might have to add to get him. Stay intelligent CDC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Dream Scenario: Edler to Detroit for Mantha straight up Hansen + Booth to NYI for 2nd Kesler + 2nd + 2nd to TB for Drouin then draft Ritchie Ritchie Drouin Mantha Shinkaruk Henrik Kassian That is a dream alright, so far gone from reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrChill Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 To Ana: Kesler To Buff: Etem, 10th overall, rights to Jordan schroeder To Van: 2nd overall, Ana 2014 1st 2nd overall draft Reinhart 6th overall draft Nylander Center future: Nylander 1st line. Reinhart second line. Horvat 3rd line. I would do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALMO to BURE Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I LOVE how in one page of a thread Kesler is worth more than just the 1st because the 1st is JUST a prospect and a risk Yet not a few posts later Kesler is maybe worth Mantha (a prospect) straight up, but we might have to add to get him. Stay intelligent CDCI believe it read "Edler for Mantha" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I believe it read "Edler for Mantha" I am referring to a previous post, but even then i'd still be wanting a 2nd back as well. I find it mind boggling that people claim prospects are risks or that our star caliber players are worthless yet will put prospects or players of lesser status on other teams so far above everything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I would do this I wouldn't draft Nylander though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanBeef Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Dream scenario... Benning moves up to get Reinhart without trading our 6th. Burke picks Virtanen at 4th we get Dal Colle or Draisaitl at 6th!!!! Shinkaruk - Reinhart - Kassian Fox - Draisaitl - Jensen No. Dream scenario here: Benning gets the first overall for a 7th round pick, the 2nd overall for Hansen, then the 10th overall and 24th for Sauve. We pick Ekblad Reinhart Ritchie Virtanen Tuch One can Only dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehd Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I know it would be hard to retain the 6th and move up for SR, but it is possible I guess provided Kesler is involved, and is willing to waive his NTc to go to FLA, or BUFF. To Buffalo: Kesler, 36th, Schroeder, 2015 2nd To Van: 2nd overall Future Canucks: Shinkaruk Reinhart Kassian Nylander Horvat Jensen Gaunce Cassels Fox Thats a big, skilled, two way line up. Giving up way too much I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALMO to BURE Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I am referring to a previous post, but even then i'd still be wanting a 2nd back as well. I find it mind boggling that people claim prospects are risks or that our star caliber players are worthless yet will put prospects or players of lesser status on other teams so far above everything elseI agree. That's one of the reasons I don't post on HF boards anymore. Everyone tries to devalue your star players and praise prospects. Now, I love Mantha and Drouin and would make moves to acquire them but people thinking that Kesler isn't worth much more than a 2014 first on a B or C prospect are our to lunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehd Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I'll tell you how you get it done. --------------Trade 1---------------- To Buff: Edler, Higgins/Burrows, Schroeder, 3rd round pickAlex Edler - veteran defensman with all star potential if put in the right situation. Christian Ehrhoff wouldn't mind playing with Edler again.Chris Higgins/Alex Burrows - Another veteran forward to complement their young core. I'd prefer if they took higgins, but Burrows is still doable.Jordan Schroeder - 22 year old equal to a b level prospect to still add a young role player piece to their core. He's got a some games under his belt so he could make an impact if given the chance. (looks like the fans don't want him here anyway)3rd Round - Just an added bonus to seal it.To Van: 2nd overall2nd overall - Sam Reinhart.--------------Trade 2---------------- To Win: Markstrom, Hansen, 6th overallJacob Markstrom - Winnipeg gets a 24 year old young goaltender who could potentially be their number 1 this season. The Winnipeg fans want Pavalec gone, and their not too hot on Montoya either. Yeah they could go to free agency, but it would be wise to take a 24 year old with that potential either way.Jannik Hansen - speedy third line veteran that can up his game if playing right. Last year he was one of our best players, just not so much this year. Still, on a fairly cheap contract, not bad6th overall - Winnipeg drafts nik ehlers. Speedy skilled player who could make a major impact. Also from Denmark, can be mentored by Jannik Hansen. Also, Ehlers _____ Hansen, does look like a good speedy wing combo. To Van: Morrissey, 9th overallJosh Morrissey - Young puck moving defensman that Vancouver fans want so bad. Also, really good friends with Hunter Shinkaruk so they could feed off each other.9th overall - Draft Virtanen.--------------End Result---------------- Canucks lose: Edler, Higgins/Burrows, Schroeder, Hansen, MarkstromCanucks gain: Reinhart, Virtanen, Morrissey. (Most importantly, while keeping Kesler like Benning wants.) Minor tweaks and I could see these happening. Hmmm, It's an interesting thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killer Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I know it would be hard to retain the 6th and move up for SR, but it is possible I guess provided Kesler is involved, and is willing to waive his NTc to go to FLA, or BUFF. To Buffalo: Kesler, 36th, Schroeder, 2015 2nd To Van: 2nd overall Future Canucks: Shinkaruk Reinhart Kassian Nylander Horvat Jensen Gaunce Cassels Fox Thats a big, skilled, two way line up. i love how optimistic our fanbase is that EVERY prospect will pan out. I'd try to aim for the Islanders 4th overall pick. They need to start winning, and ownership will want success when they move to Brooklyn. If we can get Bennett, Reinhart, or Draisaitl.. i'm happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckFanForever1123 Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Maybe something like this: Pre-draft: To Anaheim: Kesler 3rd rounder To Van: Theodore 10th 24th At draft: Florida takes Ekblad at 1 To Buffalo: 10th pick we just acquired Gaunce Cederholm To Vancouver: 2nd overall Picks: 2nd: Reinhart 6th: Virtanen 24th: Sanheim/Honka We lose Kesler, Gaunce, and Cederholm. We immediately replace Gaunce and Cederholm with better prospects though, and we get great value for Kesler. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerines Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 i love how optimistic our fanbase is that EVERY prospect will pan out. I'd try to aim for the Islanders 4th overall pick. They need to start winning, and ownership will want success when they move to Brooklyn. If we can get Bennett, Reinhart, or Draisaitl.. i'm happy NYI choose 5th in this years draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrowtruth Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Any trade where the Canucks give up a high end draft pick should be a no go. It would be nice to move up, but not in a weak draft if you have to give up picks and top prospects. Worst case, I'd be happy with Virtanen at 6th overall. I'd much rather have him than Ritchie. He can do almost everything Ritchie can, plus he is fast and has the best shot in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I dont move up. Ehlers / Nylander will be taken by the Islanders so we will get Dal Colle . With the 10th pick I target Virtanen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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