Nuxfanabroad Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 As they say in tinsel-town, Torts "jumped the shark". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckler87 Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 Anyone have torts memes from his time here in Van? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Kenobi Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 "this team is not 6th worst" You're right. Offensively they were 2nd worst in the league, they have a rookie goaltender and the league leader in minuses on the back end. Tort's had the team competitive until the Sedins just couldn't keep it going. Losing Kes will consolidate the rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman60 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Yeah but as a coach you coach the players you have, not ask the GM to get better players, I have never heard any coach say that before. There isn't a single team in the league we could say will win the cup next yeara, I wouldn't bet the house on any one team. They still had some solid pieces, the last few years they were not able to add guys in free agency becasue of the cap, this year they were gonna have the opportunity to spend also there was reason to beleive some of their prospects could be inserted in to the line up. They would be far from the favorites, but there was definately a possiblity they were gonna be better this coming year with the exisiting core. With Kesler wanting a trade to either Chicago or Anahiem, the core comes up way short. The Sedins' should bounce back (although Daniel worries me), Burrows was not a force last year and was injured and then injured again with the national team (big question mark). The Sedins' combined for a grand total of around 100 pts between them, down from 111 and 107 pts respectively....that is a huge drop off. Santorelli....will he perform like he did before his injury? If Kesler is traded for a couple of 1st's and a prospect, we will pick up some really solid prospects but they will take at least 1 more year (more lik 2 or 3) before they can step in. That basically makes us a one line offensive team again assuming the Sedin line plays up to 1st line standards....the 2nd line will be makeshift again unless we get Reinhart in the draft. This is going to take time to retool, rebuild or whatever we term it and there is no use pushing prospects who are not ready to make the jump. Some will make the team next year but not enough to be considered ready to challenge for a SC again. Willie Desjardins is going to be a huge factor in how quickly the new guys learn and the vets adapt and will definately be a positive over Tortorella. I just hope that the prospects are not overly rushed just to make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckler87 Posted July 6, 2014 Author Share Posted July 6, 2014 Without John Tortorella, the moves we are making would not have happened and the direction we are going would be completely different. We have a nice influx of prospects & young players .. these areas are now in the best shape in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinphase Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 In the most optimistic light, yes. Torts leading to Gillis' firing was ultimately a good thing for the team since Gillis no longer had a clear vision for our future. I sure as hell miss AV though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cox Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 At least torts was entertaining, passionate, and stood up for those players that deserved it. That stretch of losing badly to Anaheim, then losing to LA but then beating Calgary was exciting hockey. Showed those teams the Canucks wouldn't be pushed around physically like they were in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU SERIOUS Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I predicted one - maybe two years and was correct as he was never a fit for this market and team. Aside from being overly emotional and unprofessional he was by far the worst coach since Keenan - but not as bad as him. He belongs in an east coast big city American market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THERETOOL Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Ingotta admit , when the season started well I thought he was a miracle worker .. ughhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Torts was doing great for us until January. Then reality kicked in. If the 'tough' part of the schedule is playing games against your own division, you're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I said it when we hired him. He will either be amazing, or a spectacular failure. The sad part is he didn't really motivate guys like I thought he would. He did things like make the Sedins and Kesler play way more often than they could handle. I was surprised how conservative of a coach he was, and that he really didn't trust his younger players. Even when the younger guys were doing better than the vets. But the fact he didn't scope out the opposition at all, he didn't work with the Comets on how prospects were doing. He did a lot of things that I think are pretty basic in coaching an NHL team. I should have known when Ferraro was talking about him working at TSN, saying he noticed Tort's never memorized player names, and it was a holdover from his coaching days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugpot Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Before they hired him I ranted about how big of a mistake it was if they did. Then during the season around x-mas time I kind of changed my mind, but it turned out to be a big mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayeho Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Before they hired him I ranted about how big of a mistake it was if they did. Then during the season around x-mas time I kind of changed my mind, but it turned out to be a big mistake He was an entertaining interview, that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadcanucks Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Someone had to drive the bus over the cliff to enable all the changes from Linden, Benning, Desjardins to players...so yes, Torts was a blessing in disguise. Don't know about this Toto-rella fella you're talking about, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Poor Torts & the 'Calgary Meltdown'..should Virtanen be the real deal, we'll look back on his crazy chapter with fondness. The Youtube vid will always exceed all other memories from this lamentable season..unforgettable! :^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Someone had to drive the bus over the cliff to enable all the changes from Linden, Benning, Desjardins to players...so yes, Torts was a blessing in disguise. Don't know about this Toto-rella fella you're talking about, though. Good point..As we were driving off the cliff,everybody's rose colored spectacles flew off..If it wasn't for Torts driving the bus..we'd all still be wearing them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I'll be amazed if he's ever hired again to coach at the NHL level. Shame on Bob Clarke for saying how well he works with younger players as a teaching coach. This was said when he and Clarke were analysts on TSN a few years back. For someone that rarely attended practices, overused his veterans to the point of fatigue, and never communicated with Utica or their coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teen Icarus Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 He wasn't a great coach for us but he did allow us to move to a new chapter in Canucks history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 It forced us from one era to the next. whether that's a good thing remains to be seen, with so much riding on the next week/ I will say this, the Torts era was bizzare, I hope someday in future someone really opens up about the whole situation. Because there are obviously so many things we don't know. That would be an amazing book idea, "My year under Torts " By Alex Edler I want Edler to hold off on writing that book until he finishes writing his first book, "How I am going to get back to what I should be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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