Canuckler87 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Before Torts came to this team, we were still in fairytale land thinking we were just a new coach or player or two away from competing with the leagues best. AV was the scapegoat as a guy who couldn't coach playoff style hockey. This was despite the fact we were coming off two first round playoff exits in which we amassed a grand total of ONE win. Sure we were good in the regular season those years, but how much of that had to do with Calgary, Edmonton and a rebuilding Colorado being in our division at the time? A lot. So when John Torts came, he was the messiah who would take us to the promised land. However, this past season we missed the playoffs entirely. Our players looked slow, old and sluggish. A fact reiterated by Torts himself. The biggest contribution Torts made to our organization was bringing in a retool. Also, he cost Gillis his job (which Gillis held on to for longer than he was supposed too anyways). Now, because of Torts, we have new management with fresh views and ideas. A new coach who has experianced success at every level. And many changes on the horizon for underperforming players such as buying out David Booth. So perhaps Torts tenure here did have some benifits. Plus we can always go back and look at him trying to invade Calgarys dressing room in the future for a good laugh or two. Anyone agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Yeah, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 In a way yes. I liked Torts though. If Gillis could have assembled a better roster maybe we would of been in the playoffs. But everything happens for the better, so thank you Torts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gross-Misconduct Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Torts = Best Canucks Coach Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Felt like Keenan deja vu, all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanev's Smirk Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 He solved the Luongo problem. He should be put in to the ring for that alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 No just a wasted season under him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks155 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 He was horrible. Every1 on the team had career lows, espically Edler. He overplayed the stars and his idiotic style (which he ironically won a cup with) got players injured. HE WAS AWFUL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucksnihilist Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 yes. cause we got rid of MG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 He asked a bunch of players to play to their potential, and they failed miserably. Did a good job with the younglings. Really it was the GM that failed us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.DirtyDangles Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Torts = Best Canucks Coach Ever He managed to expose every weakness we have and in turn has caused a Tsunami of Positive change throughout the entire organization. You sir are correct ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CynideSnipe Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Actually, when you put it that way, he did actually help quite a bit. I'll give him that :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.DirtyDangles Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 He solved the Luongo problem. He should be put in to the ring for that alone. Laughing on he outside but crying on the inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry_Wilkins Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 No just a wasted season under him. This ^^. You could make the claim that it helped us to get a higher pick in a year we weren't going to contend anyway. But that's small consolation for a whole year of boring, ineffective hockey from a headline grabber whose head coaching success is in the rear view mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 torts drove the core into the ground....he said our fourth line wasn't good enough...funny weise played a big roll for montreal on their fourth line..weise said, he didn't think that torts believed in fourth lines.... AV used 4 lines in nyr playoffs......linden and benning want 4 lines used..... the whole team doesn't all play badly all at the same time....injuries hurt too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 His destruction of our creativity was a perversely beneficial form of creative destruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 yes cause gillis needed to be gone we needed a good pick to help are prospect pool out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckster19 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I don't believe in the rhetoric from rival fans saying the Canucks were only a good team because they were in a weak division, I'm sorry I don't buy it. Our record against the Pacific and Central divisions during our 5 season stint atop the NW was comparable to that against the NW and in some instances we had a better record against those divisions than our own. We also dominated the Eastern Conference moreso than most WC teams. I'll have to look it up, but I think our win% against the EC over those 5 seasons was in the 75-80% range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Pros: Enabled the removal of Gillis Cons: Being a control freak who could have cared less about the team and more about the fascinating foliage abundant in Point Roberts Being a psycho who tried to kill Bob Hartley (maiming would have been fine) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman60 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Tort's didn't play Luongo in the Winter Classic which Luo says was the final straw and thus forced a change in goal. Too bad he couldn't have done that before we lost Schneider to a reduced cap though. The man was bang on when he stated that this is a stale group and changes needed to be made. Torts has been proven right because that is what Linden and Benning have set out to do. Both MG and Torts were victimized by the falling cap...Torts needed some better players and MG was up against the cap and forced to deal Schneider in order to be cap compliant. Linden and Benning have an advantage with a rising cap and reduced expectations all around. They basically have a green light to do what has to be done plus they start out with a really great draft position plus they have the benefit of Mike Gillis start to replenish the prospect pool. Mike Gillis and Torts didn't do everything right but they also didn't do everything bad so I am not going to waste time slagging their efforts. Basically Vancouver fans have their 2011 memories reset and come down to earth with their expectations...that makes Benning, Linden and Desjardins job a little easier. It will take a couple of years to change the core makeup with Kesler being the start. With a better year, some players value will go up and that will make it even easier to do what has to be done. It's a fresh start for everyone....sit back and enjoy the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.