Canorth Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) 1 hour ago, Edlerberry said: ehlers generates chances and then butterfingers like a rookie, still putting up decent numbers and getting chances. the puck dies with jake. Ehlers has fallen off the edge of the planet about 20 + games ago Edited December 21, 2015 by Canorth 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) So to confirm, Jake is a bust, Ehlers and Nylander are gods right? This is all based on less than 40 total games at the NHL level played with plugs and a few exhibition games for Jake, an AHL season on a Marlies team chalk full of players drafted in the very early rounds and quality prospects from trades for Nylander and Ehlers being played on a solid and quite large bodied Jets team where he is being sheltered perfectly for his size and abilities right? Good to know. Let's trade him for Barry Pederson and a 1st. Because just like Neely who was played with veritable plugs and never scored more than 39 points in a Nucks uniform... Virtanen is a bust. Am I CDC'ing properly? Edited December 21, 2015 by Warhippy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) 11 hours ago, guntrix said: I stated why and you conveniently look away. He is not playing at the level that is expected of him considering that he's got some more development under his belt and that he was drafted No. 6. Based on his play, he DOES NOT deserve to be playing in team Canada. His level of play has been way below average whether you want to admit it or not. Don't be ignorant. You don't have to score to play well. JV has not been playing well. You still havent explained what lead you to your opinion of him playing below average. Is it his skating? play without the puck? anyone can say he looks below average, heck you could even say that without watching the game. What parts of his game are below average? and why Edited December 21, 2015 by Gstank29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 It's not unusual for a rookie in the NHL to struggle when they play in the WJC. Jake has only played two exhibition games and (like the his NHL team) may need a little time to get going. He'll step up when the games count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 1 hour ago, higgyfan said: It's not unusual for a rookie in the NHL to struggle when they play in the WJC. Jake has only played two exhibition games and (like the his NHL team) may need a little time to get going. He'll step up when the games count. He is dominating the boards and throwing real nice passes. Virtanen was not the disappointment for me in the first 2 games. He is playing like a pro IMHO. If anything I expect him to be more physical and that fact he was not to date is not surprising since it was exhibition. I will not judge his success by his point total. I want him to dominate the play both physically and by puck possession. If he does he should pick up his share of points. The roster has not been that impressive to date. Hoping that a few practices and the Swedish game gives a better indication of what is there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscience Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 He's got the tools but not the toolbox? I think he needs a lot more coaching and watching video to become an effective nhler. And it will probably take some time, at least a couple more seasons. Maybe junior this year and ahl next is best for his development. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANUCK-EXPRESS Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 23 minutes ago, Conscience said: He's got the tools but not the toolbox? I think he needs a lot more coaching and watching video to become an effective nhler. And it will probably take some time, at least a couple more seasons. Maybe junior this year and ahl next is best for his development. Patience is what people in CDC don't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Prophet Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 11 hours ago, guntrix said: Have you even watched him play the past week? I'm guessing no. I also find it amusing when people tend to pass their opinions on a player they haven't watched. Same can be said for another guy on here who said he was good in junior despite never watching him play with Calgary. The Hockey's Future stats nerd force is strong in this thread. I don't have the same opinion Virtanen's play as you, that obviously means I didn't watch any of the exhibition games. It also means that I'm not going to watch any of the WJC games either. Cool, thanks for letting me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 He plays an nhl game not like marner skating circles around everyone works in junior but that's it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandre Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 He's played in this tournament before. He is a veteran. I expect to see the real Virtanen (along with the rest of Team Canada) when it really matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 19 hours ago, Darius71 said: How many here were hitting the panic button when Bo didnt do much in the wj championship? Lets wait for the tournament to unfold before we start writing the guy off. I'd almost forgotten how bad this thread gets. Pity party and complete overload of soiled panties here the past 24 hours. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) Virtanen is practising on the first Powerplay unit with Team Canada, he is anchoring a line with Point or Barzal and Perlini, call it the co-first line in my opinion and although Perlini is 6'3" 208 LBs. it is Jake that is looked upon as "the" power forward/enforcer on the line. They both can skate like the wind but Jake hurts you when he hits, if Point is good to go (banged up) that line should be as valuable or more so than the Queennville / Strome / Marner line of today's practise. I predict many of us and all of Canada will be surprised by Jake and view him differently in 2 weeks time. Edited December 22, 2015 by Rollieo Del Fuego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANUCK-EXPRESS Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 2 hours ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: Virtanen is practising on the first Powerplay unit with Team Canada, he is anchoring a line with Point or Barzal and Perlini, call it the co-first line in my opinion and although Perlini is 6'3" 208 LBs. it is Jake that is looked upon as "the" power forward/enforcer on the line. They both can skate like the wind but Jake hurts you when he hits, if Point is good to go (banged up) that line should be as valuable or more so than the Queennville / Strome / Marner line of today's practise. I predict many of us and all of Canada will be surprised by Jake and view him differently in 2 weeks time. You're gonna get trashed when your prediction is wrong, just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 1 minute ago, CANUCK-EXPRESS said: You're gonna get trashed when your prediction is wrong, just saying. ...well actually what you bolded can be taken so many ways...I don't believe I will feeling any heat at all. ...kinda cold this time of year anyway so a little heat would help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Lowry is playing Jake on the first powerplay so I do have a hunch the coach thinks Jake might be alright... everyone else should be thinking that way too, no reason not to until proven wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 1 minute ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: Lowry is playing Jake on the first powerplay so I do have a hunch the coach thinks Jake might be alright... everyone else should be thinking that way too, no reason not to until proven wrong... Bust Bust Bust cut him he doesn't deserve to be on the time let alone that 1st PP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 ....which is not going to happen... Jake the non-Rake is no Fake for god's Sake... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 28 minutes ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: Lowry is playing Jake on the first powerplay so I do have a hunch the coach thinks Jake might be alright... everyone else should be thinking that way too, no reason not to until proven wrong... He's going to be the net front presence and puck retriever. Like what Hansen does, when he's with the Twins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueberries Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 24 minutes ago, Gstank29 said: Bust Bust Bust cut him he doesn't deserve to be on the time let alone that 1st PP Shaaaaaaat up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Just now, Blueberries said: Shaaaaaaat up. I refuse to shat up until some people realize how idoitic their statements were 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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