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This is when I ask myself

Who has hurt this team more?

Randy Carlyle?

Or

Dave Nonis?

I'm going with Dave Nonis.

I think at this point, it doesn't even matter who has hurt the team more. The Leafs have lots of problems, coaching being one of them. However, just changing the coach or the GM isn't enough at this point.

Carlyle let bad habits from players and character problems in the dressing room get out of hand, to the point where a new voice needs to come in and tell these players the way it needs to be.

That said, because Carlyle wasn't able to correct some of these behaviors, whether because he didn't try or because said player(s) refused to change, is also a problem that falls on Nonis' shoulders. Nonis should have corrected this before this infected the rest of the locker room. Now, perhaps he didn't make a move because A) He was too afraid (unlikely), B.) It's more difficult to make hockey trades in today's NHL (likely), or C) Because the contracts he handed out contributed to the difficultly to move said players (very likely).

At the end of the day, Carlyle needed to go. However, don't expect Nonis to survive the off-season.

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Coach first.

GM next.

This Bell/Rogers joint ownership isn't working. They need one company running MSLE. They also need the right people running the club. The Leafs need better scouts, to get better players. The OHL is their backyard, and they still can't draft well.

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I think at this point, it doesn't even matter who has hurt the team more. The Leafs have lots of problems, coaching being one of them. However, just changing the coach or the GM isn't enough at this point.

Carlyle let bad habits from players and character problems in the dressing room get out of hand, to the point where a new voice needs to come in and tell these players the way it needs to be.

That said, because Carlyle wasn't able to correct some of these behaviors, whether because he didn't try or because said player(s) refused to change, is also a problem that falls on Nonis' shoulders. Nonis should have corrected this before this infected the rest of the locker room. Now, perhaps he didn't make a move because A) He was too afraid (unlikely), B.) It's more difficult to make hockey trades in today's NHL (likely), or C) Because the contracts he handed out contributed to the difficultly to move said players (very likely).

At the end of the day, Carlyle needed to go. However, don't expect Nonis to survive the off-season.

Yes he got fired because he couldn't get the prima donnas to play defense

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Yes he got fired because he couldn't get the prima donnas to play defense

While true, neither could Ron Wilson.

As fun as it is to crap on anything Leafs related, both Wilson and Carlyle, both of whom had varying degrees of coaching success prior to joining the Leafs, didn't simply forget how to coach when they came to Toronto. At a certain point, while issues in the dressing room fall on the coaching staff to correct bad behaviors (on and off ice), the players absolutely have to take responsibility to act like adults. If they refuse to change, and in Carlyle's case, he had years to correct this, then the GM (Nonis/Burke) absolutely has to step in, bite the bullet, and trade said asset.

Carlyle is a good coach and will get an NHL job again. But whoever comes in to coach the Leafs won't have any better results than Carlyle or Wilson had, unless whoever is running the team can (or is even allowed to) make a change in the dressing room.

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the leafs are hamstrung

by too many anchor contracts

to core players who simply are not good enough

they need to shed some of these contracts

before sustained improvement can occur

nonis' judgment in agreeing to these contracts

is really his biggest weakness

thank god most of gillis' contract signings made sense

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