-Vintage Canuck- Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 @MapleLeafs: Randy Carlyle relieved of his duties by #Leafs. READ: http://t.co/KCSd7wjj3A #TMLtalk http://t.co/B7SCej0V9O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatedkid666 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Gosh your fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Gosh your fast thats what she said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nd84 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 As per Pierre LeBrun Twitter and TSN go app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Should have happened last off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 This is when I ask myself Who has hurt this team more? Randy Carlyle? Or Dave Nonis? I'm going with Dave Nonis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Just too funny watching Nonis go, this guy has no clue what to do. Nothing he does makes sense. Leaf are in the playoff, in a tight battle, what did he expect, the Leaf to sit 1st overall? Why not fire him this summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Nonis should have been fired in all honesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 And who do the Leafs have in mind thats better than Carlyle ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 This is when I ask myself Who has hurt this team more? Randy Carlyle? Or Dave Nonis? I'm going with Dave Nonis. I think at this point, it doesn't even matter who has hurt the team more. The Leafs have lots of problems, coaching being one of them. However, just changing the coach or the GM isn't enough at this point. Carlyle let bad habits from players and character problems in the dressing room get out of hand, to the point where a new voice needs to come in and tell these players the way it needs to be. That said, because Carlyle wasn't able to correct some of these behaviors, whether because he didn't try or because said player(s) refused to change, is also a problem that falls on Nonis' shoulders. Nonis should have corrected this before this infected the rest of the locker room. Now, perhaps he didn't make a move because A) He was too afraid (unlikely), B.) It's more difficult to make hockey trades in today's NHL (likely), or C) Because the contracts he handed out contributed to the difficultly to move said players (very likely). At the end of the day, Carlyle needed to go. However, don't expect Nonis to survive the off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Coach first. GM next. This Bell/Rogers joint ownership isn't working. They need one company running MSLE. They also need the right people running the club. The Leafs need better scouts, to get better players. The OHL is their backyard, and they still can't draft well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 And who do the Leafs have in mind thats better than Carlyle ? Tortorella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawndy Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I think at this point, it doesn't even matter who has hurt the team more. The Leafs have lots of problems, coaching being one of them. However, just changing the coach or the GM isn't enough at this point. Carlyle let bad habits from players and character problems in the dressing room get out of hand, to the point where a new voice needs to come in and tell these players the way it needs to be. That said, because Carlyle wasn't able to correct some of these behaviors, whether because he didn't try or because said player(s) refused to change, is also a problem that falls on Nonis' shoulders. Nonis should have corrected this before this infected the rest of the locker room. Now, perhaps he didn't make a move because A) He was too afraid (unlikely), B.) It's more difficult to make hockey trades in today's NHL (likely), or C) Because the contracts he handed out contributed to the difficultly to move said players (very likely). At the end of the day, Carlyle needed to go. However, don't expect Nonis to survive the off-season. Yes he got fired because he couldn't get the prima donnas to play defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 And who do the Leafs have in mind thats better than Carlyle ? DALLAS EAKINS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drive-By Body Pierce Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Bring in John Totorella! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Yes he got fired because he couldn't get the prima donnas to play defense While true, neither could Ron Wilson. As fun as it is to crap on anything Leafs related, both Wilson and Carlyle, both of whom had varying degrees of coaching success prior to joining the Leafs, didn't simply forget how to coach when they came to Toronto. At a certain point, while issues in the dressing room fall on the coaching staff to correct bad behaviors (on and off ice), the players absolutely have to take responsibility to act like adults. If they refuse to change, and in Carlyle's case, he had years to correct this, then the GM (Nonis/Burke) absolutely has to step in, bite the bullet, and trade said asset. Carlyle is a good coach and will get an NHL job again. But whoever comes in to coach the Leafs won't have any better results than Carlyle or Wilson had, unless whoever is running the team can (or is even allowed to) make a change in the dressing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 And to think Nonis was running the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 the leafs are hamstrung by too many anchor contracts to core players who simply are not good enough they need to shed some of these contracts before sustained improvement can occur nonis' judgment in agreeing to these contracts is really his biggest weakness thank god most of gillis' contract signings made sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanBeef Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 thats what she said no, she would say "you're" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanHamhuis2 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 And who do the Leafs have in mind thats better than Carlyle ?Dan Bylsma?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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