Honeydew Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Carlyle could be going to EDM I could see that happening then gets fired after 2 years of poor performance.... Nonis should be the one fired no clue what the upper management is doing especially if they want to run a decent team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Doctor Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 For whatever reason, I did not see Carlyle as a good fit in Toronto. I was surprised when he was let go by the ducks but this will be a great opportunity for him to find a better match in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Time Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Will never understand how Nonis still has a job in the NHL. Has there ever been a more mediocre GM in such high profile franchises as Vancouver and Toronto? I knew when Nonis was our GM we were never going to win anything. His ability to trade high draft picks for nothing, and overpay free agents was astounding. He has basically rode the coat tails of the one good trade he made (Luongo) and made a career out of it. His comments about stats and analysis show a guy who is clearly out of touch with how to build a winner. As long as Nonis is the GM in Toronto, it won't matter who the coach or players are. That team is going nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Nonis should have been fired in all honesty. Nonis is next, I don't think it will take too long. They won't want him to be the one to shape the "New and Improved" Leafs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Maybe they decided that they want to tank for the 1st overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Will never understand how Nonis still has a job in the NHL. Has there ever been a more mediocre GM in such high profile franchises as Vancouver and Toronto? I knew when Nonis was our GM we were never going to win anything. His ability to trade high draft picks for nothing, and overpay free agents was astounding. He has basically rode the coat tails of the one good trade he made (Luongo) and made a career out of it. His comments about stats and analysis show a guy who is clearly out of touch with how to build a winner. As long as Nonis is the GM in Toronto, it won't matter who the coach or players are. That team is going nowhere. well not quite i am not a nonis fan but do not forget that he staked his job and lost it on his refusal to make a daft trade for brad richards that he was being pressed to do by management that was as astute a non move as his trade for luongo but i have never regretted that he moved on but i do give him a lot of credit for these 2 major decisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 The timing is odd because TO was flying high just a couple weeks ago. I know because TO fans were flooding HF about it. The timing is also odd because they're going to find a new coach before Babcock becomes available. Nothing but failure there for the time being, i'm afraid. And then they have Nylander to look forward to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 http://www.tsn.ca/video/kessel-you-think-it-s-my-fault-1.176130 Just a matter of time before the bubble pops. As a Wings fan, pray to God they don't get Babcock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Kessel might become the most expensive buyout ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I wish I could feel bad for them, but they won a few games in a row and their media went to the usual obnoxious well - predictably trolling Vancouver overtime (as they do every time they think the Leafs are finally a respectable hockey team) - and even more predictably, they forgot how mediocre their own team is for a week or two. In the dust of how daft they are, the real Leafs re-emerged. Yup, entirely predictable this course of events. I actually said "By Christmas" for both the coach and GM, back at the beginning of the season. That two week run offset the timeline a tad. I still think Nonis is gone before the end of the month. There were a few posters here who have not been able to see exactly how bad this mess is in Hogtown. Well....there's your first clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkin Cookies Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 The media scrums with torts would be so epic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Kessel might become the most expensive buyout ever. Lol. He's overpaid but nowhere near being a buyout candidate. He's 10th in league scoring, and none of his issues are that large to cloud over that fact and make him buyout worthy. If Toronto wanted him gone they could find a trade partner, and he would probably fetch them a nice return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Lol. He's overpaid but nowhere near being a buyout candidate. He's 10th in league scoring, and none of his issues are that large to cloud over that to make him buyout worthy. If Toronto wanted him gone they could find a trade partner, and he would probably fetch them a nice return. Calgary has 13 million in cap space. However, I highly doubt that Burke makes the same mistake twice and does the Leafs the favour he did the Bruins. Imo the return that Kessel would command will be a fraction of that deal. If I'm Burke, I offer the Leafs Mason Raymond back. Kessel may outscore Raymond 2-1, but the difference is cap hit is greater than that, and Raymond can actually be seen on his own side of the blueline - is actually a good two way hockey player - who comically, hits and blocks shots with greater frequency than Kessel as well. To Calgary: Phil Kessel To Toronto: Mason Raymond (would throw in Ballard if the Flames had his rights, but not a 1st) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Calgary has 13 million in cap space. However, I highly doubt that Burke makes the same mistake twice and does the Leafs the favour he did the Bruins. Imo the return that Kessel would command will be a fraction of that deal. If I'm Burke, I offer the Leafs Mason Raymond back. Kessel may outscore Raymond 2-1, but the difference is cap hit is greater than that, and Raymond can actually be seen on his own side of the blueline - is actually a good two way hockey player - who comically, hits and blocks shots with greater frequency than Kessel as well. To Calgary: Phil Kessel To Toronto: Mason Raymond (would throw in Ballard if the Flames had his rights, but not a 1st) You surely can't be serious? Phil Kessel is one of the best players in the NHL, not a cap dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 You surely can't be serious? Phil Kessel is one of the best players in the NHL, not a cap dump. With all due respect, Caboose, it's that line of thinking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 You surely can't be serious? Phil Kessel is one of the best players in the NHL, not a cap dump. Likewise. Kessel could quite possibly be the worst puck possession player in the NHL. (I won't remake my case here - I did in the Dreger "all Leafs available" thread if you care to respond there) But why would Toronto need puck possession? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I feel that Tsn had wind of the Carlyle firing for weeks (Nonis-Dreger, for starters) and this firing was timed perfectly to suit Tsn's schedule. Just after the WJC wrapped up, when people were still watching Tsn. Tsn had a package of talking heads lined up for our continued amusement today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 You surely can't be serious? Phil Kessel is one of the best players in the NHL, not a cap dump.Also one of the most laziest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 You surely can't be serious?Phil Kessel is one of the best players in the NHL, not a cap dump. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 The media scrums with torts would be so epicI think Torts is a valid option there, because of the sports and ENTERTAINMENT aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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