VANcanucks92 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 They have us sitting second in the pacific and leading our team in points by a substantial margin. If that's no where, then I'll take it. Yeah but come playoff time they get shutdown fairly easily, not all the time but the last couple seasons they get completely shut down and our 2nd line has not been able to counter that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorLinden4ever Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Okay...I'm gonna try to decipher what is written here^^^^. "...make the sedons play with Zack Kassan..." - okay, I get that part. Buddy wants to see Kass play with the Sedins. "...he will be a future 50 goal guy..." - okay, I get this part too. Buddy thinks if Kass plays with the Sedins, Kass could be a 50 goal scorer. A long shot, but possible. "...making him a burrow kind of player." - Buddy is saying that if Kass plays with the "Sedons", Kass will somehow become a player like "burrow". I guess anything is possible. Anyhow, back to OP's question...IMO, first line for 2015-2016: Daniel -- Henrik -- Vrbata. I don't think we're going to see much change (barring injuries). "We can also use more confidence in Kassan now that Sestito is gone, because Sestito was not a good hockey player just throw punches." - I don't know what to make of this sentence...can anyone help? I dont know what to make either. I was just thinking maybe Sestito is a better fighter then kassan. Maybe Sesto can take top line duty if kassan wont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Yeah, yeah, yeah. We attract a good free agent who fills exactly a niche we need. Gets named an all star. And you propose to trade him. Exactly what message dows that send? And here is your quote > ''So Vrbata, until the deadline where he'll be dealt to a contender for picks." Where exactly does it suggest next year??? Not that TL/JB will be tanking next year either. Rather than ostracize our free agents, I'd bet more heavily on us picking up a stud D UFA this off season? Not scaring them away... Well, the threads kind of about the 15/16 season I have no idea why anyone would be talking about this year! And I guess it's opininated about tge resigning thing, but I see both of these guys (Bonino in particular) as guys who will want to win the Cup. Uf we can somehow manage to nab a stud #1 and shore up our offence perhaps we stand a chance of resigning them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Lucic-Johansen-E. Kane The North Vancouver Line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Not worried about our first line. Im worried about our 2nd line. Maybe UFA-Bonino-Kassian Matthais-Richardson-Virtanen Gaunce-Horvat-Dorsett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-d Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Okay...I'm gonna try to decipher what is written here^^^^. "...make the sedons play with Zack Kassan..." - okay, I get that part. Buddy wants to see Kass play with the Sedins. "...he will be a future 50 goal guy..." - okay, I get this part too. Buddy thinks if Kass plays with the Sedins, Kass could be a 50 goal scorer. A long shot, but possible. "...making him a burrow kind of player." - Buddy is saying that if Kass plays with the "Sedons", Kass will somehow become a player like "burrow". I guess anything is possible. Anyhow, back to OP's question...IMO, first line for 2015-2016: Daniel -- Henrik -- Vrbata. I don't think we're going to see much change (barring injuries). "We can also use more confidence in Kassan now that Sestito is gone, because Sestito was not a good hockey player just throw punches." - I don't know what to make of this sentence...can anyone help? I dont know what to make either. I was just thinking maybe Sestito is a better fighter then kassan. Maybe Sesto can take top line duty if kassan wont Either he's smoking a real good s**t, or we need a real good cryptanalyst to decrypt hidden message if there's any . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 First lines don't materialize out of the ether. No change. Who else would be 1C....Sidney? Like that's going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadOgre Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Well if they serve us more of that crap like I saw last night they wont even finish the season as 1st liners! Holy crap by next year their all out foot speed will involve all four limbs lol probably just end up skating backwards lol Somebody get them a Cane lol Nobody in the NHL is seriously that slow! Except them First line??? Cant out race anything in sight........I don't think so!!! Next year will be Bonino or an acquisition. Don't hold your breath for the acquisition. Next years top line is gonna = a big ol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 We don't have a center who's going to replace Henrik Sedin, so as far as we're concerned we're stuck with the Sedins until they're producing less points than Bonino or Horvat, which is about 50 points max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Worry about next year next year. That is precisely what Gillis did, and look where that got us? Aging Sedins with no immediate replacements waiting in the wings. We absolutely should worry about next year now (although really, we should have worried about next year two years ago), but c'est la vie. Benning is putting into place an infrastructure to ensure a continual pipeline of prospects. As for the OP, I expect to see something along these lines for next year: Jensen/Matthias - Bonino - Virtanen/Kassian/Vey Sedin - Sedin - Vrbata Jensen/Matthias/Burrows - Horvat - Virtanen/Kassian/Vey/Hansen Dorsett/Burrows/Higgins - Gaunce - Kassian/Hansen/Dorsett Barring any kind of trades, of course. Unless something earth shattering happens, like us drafting McDavid or Eichel by some fluke/sheisty draft day trading, Bonino is going to be our #1C for the time being, at least the next 1-2 seasons after this. Unfortunately I don't see us having the ability to wait until Ryan Johansen becomes UFA, he's at least 6 years away from UFA status. Bonino as 1C is only a stop gap for 1-2 years until someone can either emerge, or Benning finds a way to trade for a legit #1C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadOgre Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Well we all knew we were in for this ride a couple years back. At least the guys in charge now inspire some confidence that they will get the job done right! this time around That game against Calgary was the first time since last year that I found myself shouting out loud my displeasure with our group play. Hopefully its not gonna be a repeat of last year cause that was the definition of painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Well we all knew we were in for this ride a couple years back. At least the guys in charge now inspire some confidence that they will get the job done right! this time around That game against Calgary was the first time since last year that I found myself shouting out loud my displeasure with our group play. Hopefully its not gonna be a repeat of last year cause that was the definition of painful. That said, if this year were to be a repeat of last year, it would significantly accelerate our goal of finding a 1C replacement for Henrik If we get anywhere in the Top 10, due to a phenomenal tank job in the second half of this season, I could see Benning go hard for 1st overall. If it's Buffalo, I could see a deal being made; the Canucks have plenty of veterans that Buffalo could use to help groom their rather young core group, that and Buffalo is already more than set at the C position.... Reinhart, Giergensons, Grigorenko, Hodgson (who will turn things around, in some kind of a funk this season). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadOgre Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Yes if we end up like last year again I think JB will ship some of the vets out at the deadline. Bieksa, Higgins, Hansen and Burrows if he will leave lol. maybe even one or two more. Picking a good talent would be the only good thing about a repeat of last season. The only thing is we don't want to have the same issue as Edmonton by shipping out every last one of our vets. I would prefer to at least watch one round of play off hockey then pick in the top 10. I wouldn't mind seeing some vets moved at deadline either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronalds.Kenins41 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 If the NHL and it's officials would actually give us more than 1 PP a game their numbers would be much higher. In short if the Sedins were playing for a Californian team they would be on pace for 100 point seasons. its not like if they get one they always score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronalds.Kenins41 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Sedin Sedin Jagr even though it would work on paper, I don't see it working out in reality cause Jagr needs fast players around him to make up for his speed and so do the sedins. Together they would be like watching hockey in slow motion. But Jagr protects the puck really well, so you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronalds.Kenins41 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 We don't have a center who's going to replace Henrik Sedin, so as far as we're concerned we're stuck with the Sedins until they're producing less points than Bonino or Horvat, which is about 50 points max. Finding a good play maker is hard these days. The first thing I noticed about Crosby and McDavid is how well they are at playmaking( but unlike Henrik they don't need a empty net to score) and look at their draft range. The op does bring up a good point though, (he just got the timing way off). When the sedins retire, this team will be garbage for awhile. Even with Shinkaruk turning into P. Kane (which is unlikely). Kassian has a bit of play making ability but he needs to work on it a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Daniel needs to find a home on the second line. Henrik's excellent playmaking skills could benefit from having larger wingers to pass too. Daniel is basically Henrik 2.0. Having them both on the same line is redundant going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 even though it would work on paper, I don't see it working out in reality cause Jagr needs fast players around him to make up for his speed and so do the sedins. Together they would be like watching hockey in slow motion. But Jagr protects the puck really well, so you never know. Actually the best option would be Jagr on our 2nd line with Higgins and Burrows, but then of course there is no center lol, Sedins with Vrbata. But our PP would be the Sedins and Jagr, would be sick. I guess not having an actual center on the 2nd line wouldn't matter anyways, we can't win faceoffs so it would still work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Doctor Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Sedin-Sedin-Vrbata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRypien37 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Sedin Sedin Jagr Trying to beat the Devils for oldest team in the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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