FramingDragon Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Hilarious how butt hurt US conservatives are over AS going home empty handed. Cooper not winning best actor is a knock against C.K., apparently. And if you didn't think AS was the best movie, like, in the history of film, you're an unpatriotic traitor douchebag who should be executed on the spot. tos link, I got my corns popped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Don't care how good the actor is, I can not bring myself to watch The Theory of Everything. All the clips I've seen from it look like the most boring made for tv movie ever. Have only scanned down the list of winners but it looks about right. The rest of the acting was predictable. Lots of technical stuff for Grand Budapest. Directing and best pic was more or less a coin toss between the two B's. Would have liked to see it split one way or the other, but, whatever. Goodbye Oscar. wait, no I do have a complaint = adapted screenplay going to Imitation Game over Whiplash or Inherent Vice. Whiplash shouldn't even be in that category. Lame. IG's dialogue sounded like it was written by vintage canuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLASSJAW Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 yeah Inherent Vice not getting that was quite strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatsPajamas Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 that women who was supposed to keep an eye on NPH's predictions was so f'in ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLASSJAW Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 There are two kinds of travesties that can happen in the Best Picture category: the ordinary travesty, and the epochal travesty. Tonight, for the first time in 20 years, we’ve witnessed an epochal travesty. The ordinary travesty happens many years at the Oscars; it happens when a mediocre or outright bad movie wins Best Picture over a bunch of better movies. It happened when Argo won the 2012 Oscars, when The Artist won the 2011 Oscars, when The King’s Speech won the 2010 Oscars. The Best Picture category was scattered with great movies those years—Django Unchained, Zero Dark Thirty, The Tree of Life, The Kids Are All Right, The Social Network, Toy Story 3. Many, many film lovers will agree that it sure would’ve been terrific if some of those movies were Best Picture winners instead of what actually won. And then there’s the epochal travesty. That’s what is risked when, against all odds, a true masterpiece, a movie for the ages, somehow battles its way through the mediocrity and the politicking and the bull and lands a Best Picture nomination. These years, the academy has the chance to reward actual brilliance—to make not just a good choice but the right choice. About half the time this happens, the academy, to its credit, nails it—It Happened One Night, Gone With the Wind, Casablanca, The Apartment, Lawrence of Arabia, The Godfather, Annie Hall, Terms of Endearment, The Silence of the Lambs, Schindler’s List, Titanic, and 12 Years a Slave all won Best Picture, and history will smile upon those choices. But sometimes the academy blows it. That’s the epochal travesty. It was an epochal travesty when Citizen Kane lost in 1941. When The Graduate lost in 1967. Cries and Whispers, High Noon, Goodfellas, Pulp Fiction. In one truly awful stretch in the late ’70s and early ’80s, the academy blew it four years in a row, as Apocalypse Now, Raging Bull, Raiders of the Lost Ark, and E.T. all somehow lost Best Picture. And the academy blew it tonight, when Boyhood lost. This one’s an epochal Oscar travesty. This one hurts. By nominating Boyhood, the academy gave itself the chance to recognize a movie that is not just good but revolutionary—a film that reconsiders, in surprising and rewarding ways, the medium’s relationship with time, with storytelling, and with its audience. It’s both a singular work—no one but Richard Linklater could have made it—and a universal one, reflecting the elemental formative experiences of nearly every viewer, even those who don’t, on the surface, have a lot in common with Mason or Samantha or Olivia or Mason Sr. It’s the crowning work of a crucial American filmmaker and a profound statement about the lives we live. But the academy gave Best Picture to a movie about an actor’s identity crisis—a movie about, in Mark Harris’ perfect turn of phrase, “someone who hopes to create something as good as Boyhood.” That’s not to say Birdman is a bad movie. Indeed, in many ways, Birdman represents the kind of movie I wish the academy would reward more often—adventurous, risk-taking, foolhardy, darkly comedic. Those kinds of movies get ignored by the academy far too often, and there would be many years I’d consider a Best Picture statue for Birdman a promising development for the future of moviemaking. But the thing about an epochal travesty is it doesn’t matter if the movie that wins is good or bad. An American in Paris is a darn good movie. But it beat out a straight-up masterpiece in A Streetcar Named Desire. I really love One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, but that year the academy could’ve given Best Picture to an indelible work of American art, Nashville, or an immortal work of American pop, Jaws. (Sometimes, of course, epochal travesties are also just plain dumb, as with the previous one, Pulp Fiction’s loss to Forrest Gump.) Birdman is a terrific movie. Boyhood is a masterpiece, and its loss feels different from an ordinary Oscar loss. It feels like a missed opportunity for the Oscars to seize their relevance, to control their relationship to posterity. It feels like a loss we’ll be smarting about for a long time. 10, 20, 50 years from now, we’ll look back, and slap our heads and say, How did they let this happen? haha, well, that's one take http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2015/02/23/oscars_best_picture_winner_birdman_boyhood_snub_is_the_academy_s_worst_mistake.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 I expect tomorrow the headlines will be something like Birdman The Big Winner, Proves Superhero Movies Can Be Artistic or some such crap totally missing the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoqYMgdKjcA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FramingDragon Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 haha, well, that's one take http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2015/02/23/oscars_best_picture_winner_birdman_boyhood_snub_is_the_academy_s_worst_mistake.html Oh god, can it get more typical of the hype this movie has garnered edit: also, really happy American Sniper got cockblocked in everything but Sound Editing. All is well in the universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLASSJAW Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Oh god, can it get more typical of the hype this movie has garnered lol, i have no idea why you're so caught up in hating this movie so hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FramingDragon Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 lol, i have no idea why you're so caught up in hating this movie so hard it's just so amusing to repeatedly hear that it took 12 years to make, as if it skyrockets its quality past any other competition. Without the "12 years" slogan, it could almost be one of those stereotypical Tyler Perry movies, except this time its with white folks. sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bassi13 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 ...Or it could be argued that none of them were really all that great. I don't see any of them as best picture material. Probably speaks more of me than it does the films, but the only one of those that I'd ever bother to watch again was Toy Story 3, which I actually loved. But I feel like if this writer was coming with examples of travesties, they went to some really personal ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 it's just so amusing to repeatedly hear that it took 12 years to make, as if it skyrockets its quality past any other competition. Without the "12 years" slogan, it could almost be one of those stereotypical Tyler Perry movies, except this time its with white folks. sorry I feel like you've allowed the 'hype' about the movie to make you completely biased against the movie. Try not listening to what others have to say about the movie and judge it for yourself. Maybe you don't like it, but at least judge it based on its flaws, not based on your contempt for those who praise the film. It might stop you from saying ridiculous things like comparing it to a Tyler Perry movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Birdman best picture? That was the worst movie I've seen all year. Typical hollywood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dittohead Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I won $40 in an Oscar pool. guessed 17 correct categories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WZRD Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Oh god, can it get more typical of the hype this movie has garnered edit: also, really happy American Sniper got cockblocked in everything but Sound Editing. All is well in the universe. Still made a lot of money so it's a success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 haha, well, that's one take http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2015/02/23/oscars_best_picture_winner_birdman_boyhood_snub_is_the_academy_s_worst_mistake.html That article was just throwing out 'American this' and 'American that'. Well I'm sorry (not) but Oscars don't go to which movie represents America. If it did, American sniper would have swept the board. Hell, it even has 'American' in the title and wasn't made by some Mexicans. ...Or it could be argued that none of them were really all that great. I don't see any of them as best picture material. Probably speaks more of me than it does the films, but the only one of those that I'd ever bother to watch again was Toy Story 3, which I actually loved. But I feel like if this writer was coming with examples of travesties, they went to some really personal ones. I don't think a movie about Facebook ever deserves best picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I don't think a movie about Facebook ever deserves best picture. Have you seen it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowhereman Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 ...Or it could be argued that none of them were really all that great. I don't see any of them as best picture material. Probably speaks more of me than it does the films, but the only one of those that I'd ever bother to watch again was Toy Story 3, which I actually loved. But I feel like if this writer was coming with examples of travesties, they went to some really personal ones. The Social Network was brilliant and Tree of Life is a masterpiece and one of the best movies of the 21st century, up there with In the Mood for Love, There Will Be Blood and Mulholland Drive. Though, TOL is not exactly BP material. Too deep, abstract and lacking in Hollywood glitz. I don't think a movie about Facebook ever deserves best picture. What does it matter? The movie was tremendous and deserved BP over The King's Speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLASSJAW Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 what made the Social Network brilliant? i liked it, but i don't think i would use the word brilliant to describe it, although I should re-watch it before talking about it too much agreed that Tree of Life was pretty much an unparalleled movie in recent years though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Funny about Arquette's 'passionate' speech about wage equality when the SWAG bag at the Oscars was worth 200k. Wage equality is pretty difficult when, among other things, actors in general are a bunch of divas that require pampering and ego stroking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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