GreyHatnDart Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 It's been awhile here, so maybe it's time for a little reminder of what the playoffs are like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Rs-XFa1ye8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h13-1WXlB6k And of course this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnKQSHAFSzI This was the Canucks at their cockiest. More power: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsaJ7zU51fw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDdWgXLFJOM We only lost to the Bruins because they were less banged-up than us. We TRUCKED through the west. Literally. "But why oh why did we miss out on... David Pastrnak!?! pew! pew pew!" lul NHL Playoffs are a warrior's game. So you better be ready for war. If you're not, then stay the f out. Steve Ott's hit in the first vid was a little dirty. Then I saw it was Duncan Keith so I watched it again for fun. Loved Rypper finishing off the set. Nice collection Ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbutcher Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 What's that, we have more hits than the Blackhawks? They must suck. And the Oilers have more hits than us? Must mean they're better. There's more to the game than hits, especially since the only time you can throw a hit is when you don't have the puck. I'd rather have the puck. As a team, in my opinion, they need to throw more good clean hits "To separate the player from the puck", They can then have the puck as you say, in Theory. The ducks put on a very good display of this last game. I have not seen much of this from the canucks lately. We can no longer beat teams with our speed and finesse................ or so it seems. I still love this team, will cheer till the end, if we're not gonna win it all, at least give it 100% and make it fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 different buildings record hits with different standards, so teams with most hits recorded are usually the teams whose home building is the most lax in their hit standards, while the ones with the least are usually the ones with most stringent standards for hits. comparing a teams recorded hits over a season is a pointless exercise without adjusting for building bias (which is nearly impossible to do, or at least completely pointless). game to game comparisons are better but usually run into home team bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocanuck Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I don't think the amount of hits really makes much of a difference in wins other then style. The important thing is balance to a team. a balance of speed, skill and size. All have roles and can contribute. Our problem is our skill is extremely slow, our size (limited) doesn't hit and we are left with floating grinders who were never drafted to be scorers! this is not a recipe for success despite having a very good coach. Change it up a bit,, put some size on each line and don't use your size to play third man high (Kassians role) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asian player Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 This team doesn't have as much skill as it used to. It doesn't skate like like it used to. And it doesn't even hit. Missing the trifecta here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 If we really want to increase our hit totals, we should hire the stats guy from Minny.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 If we really want to increase our hit totals, we should hire the stats guy from Minny.... LOL i was about to say this, didn't that guy have Minny with 50 hits agaist the Canucks in the 1st period last year. Yotes guy is right up there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedBeats™2.0 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Read the team by team hit stats on this page, and noone has even mentioned that the 'Hawks rank 3 spots down and are the lowest hitting team in the NHL. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggs Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Goddamn it I miss Raffi Torres and Maxim Lapierre. They were both runaway freight trains in that 2011 playoff run. This current team is just way too soft to wear down opposing teams in a post-season run. Outside of Kassian and sometimes Hansen, they don't have any big hitters on the forward lines. Edler and Sbisa are pretty much the only defencemen who can provide some thunderous checks, but they need way more physicality on this team. Bring back the Torres Turbo Diesel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Goddamn it I miss Raffi Torres and Maxim Lapierre. They were both runaway freight trains in that 2011 playoff run. This current team is just way too soft to wear down opposing teams in a post-season run. Outside of Kassian and sometimes Hansen, they don't have any big hitters on the forward lines. Edler and Sbisa are pretty much the only defencemen who can provide some thunderous checks, but they need way more physicality on this team. Bring back the Torres Turbo Diesel! What'd you think of Kenins last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frizzo67 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Shooting for a team Lady Byng this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 disappointed with the lack of physical play of this team for a couple season the fore check is terrible they go to the puck and don't take out the man. losing so many battles alone the board because they just don't hit at either end of the ice. lead by example and if thats the case then i see why the team doesn't hit, doesn't go for retribution or in some cases even stand up for themselves let alone each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggs Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 What'd you think of Kenins last night? I've liked Kenins' play. I don't think he's a big hitter but he does seem to have an abrasive side which can be very useful. He seems to have stocky build so opposing players are going to feel it when he hits them. Not as much as when Torres trainwrecked people but still effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggs Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 disappointed with the lack of physical play of this team for a couple season the fore check is terrible they go to the puck and don't take out the man. losing so many battles alone the board because they just don't hit at either end of the ice. lead by example and if thats the case then i see why the team doesn't hit, doesn't go for retribution or in some cases even stand up for themselves let alone each other. Exactly. They are way too passive. If your PP sucks, it's not a deterrent from opponents taking cheapshots on your best players (Getzlaf on H. Sedin, Perry on D. Sedin). Enough with the turn the other cheek garbage. Go back at them. Even if they get a penalty, the message needs to be sent plus the PK has been excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Exactly. They are way too passive. If your PP sucks, it's not a deterrent from opponents taking cheapshots on your best players (Getzlaf on H. Sedin, Perry on D. Sedin). Enough with the turn the other cheek garbage. Go back at them. Even if they get a penalty, the message needs to be sent plus the PK has been excellent. Totally with you on this one... Only issue is that they tried that last year and although it was brilliant to see them fight back in the 1-0 loss to Kings, they just are not good enough at the rough and tumble long term... Think that was JB's message as well. We need to get bigger... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggs Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Totally with you on this one... Only issue is that they tried that last year and although it was brilliant to see them fight back in the 1-0 loss to Kings, they just are not good enough at the rough and tumble long term... Think that was JB's message as well. We need to get bigger... Yeah, that game was frustrating and entertaining at the same time. They finally show some backbone but couldn't muster a stinking goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 It's getting harder TO hit/body check because everything's under the microscope. I think you have some guys/teams holding back a bit and the restraint is because they've paid a price when they have engaged in the physical game. Personally, that's how I like hockey to be played (Rock 'em Sock 'em). But there are teams designed for that and others that get sucked into it. I think it's about picking your spots wisely and we could probably engage a bit more, however, it slows us down (even more). You can lose a step that way but the tradeoff is it sends a message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 I've liked Kenins' play. I don't think he's a big hitter but he does seem to have an abrasive side which can be very useful. He seems to have stocky build so opposing players are going to feel it when he hits them. Not as much as when Torres trainwrecked people but still effective.I think Kenins and Dorsett can provide some solid energy hitting from the 4th line however, teams that use hitting effectively, have player throughout the line-up that can use the body to win battles as well as keep other teams honest with physical play. Nothing leads to costly turnovers more than some guy coughing up the puck in fear of being hit or while being hit.Our team is soft as butter in the top 6 and marginally physical in the bottom 6. no-one in our top 6 (or even 9) causes defending teams to panic with the puck for fear of being hit.Our top 3 is so soft, they can't even pressure in the o-zone unless they start with the puck. A total lack of physical presence and a lack of speed prevent them from playing aggressive for fear of getting beat on the transition.Bottom line - this team is not built to play a physical game and you can't add a "hitter" and change that culture. Benning will have to start re-building the make-up over time with guys like Vertanen, who play physical and have offensive skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 I think Dorsett is quickly becoming a favourite of mine...pure energy and he has that work ethic that the little team that could did when it challenged for the cup. Love that he gives 110% and that includes playing a hard, physical game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 As long as the twins are getting the majority of ice time we will always be a soft team. I lost respect for them after the Marchand incident. Seriously, who lets someone half their size repeatedly punch them in the face. I can only imagine what the rest of the team was thinking when they saw that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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