tas Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I gave McDonagh the slight edge, because of turnover (Hedman: 66, McDonagh: 60) and block shots (Hedman: 110, McDonagh: 139). Maybe I should've left out the "equally" part and instead have said "as good as the other". equal and as good as are synonymous. and as far as blocked shots go, didn't you say hedman played 20 fewer games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realtor Rod Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Dude how many of those guys are top 2 guys, rangers had a stacked line up on defence. Haha, your team only has 1 set of top two guys. Your question is redundant, as is this thread. You think firing Bowness was worse than trading Neely? Not drafting Kopitar, Lidstrom etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernzie71 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 If bobby sanguinetti was any good he'd be a Nhler And NOT A CAREER AHLer.. he's nothing special just a first round draft pick that played under 150 nhl gms. DESI u obviously have a man crush on bosang why ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongrel Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 what has bowness ever won, being such a winner? and jesus, hockey iq is the new buzzword, like gutless was awhile back. hockey iq refers exclusively to a player's on ice vision and decision-making, not to the ability of fans to analyze or prognosticate. stop using it that way. it's really stupid. Hockey iq refers to anybodies iq in regards to hockey. It's not a buzzword. When I was a kid we called it hockey smarts but essentially it's the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Hockey iq refers to anybodies iq in regards to hockey. It's not a buzzword. When I was a kid we called it hockey smarts but essentially it's the same thing. no, it doesn't. it's a player attribute like size, speed, or skill. hockey iq means the ability for a player to know where to be on the ice, what play to make, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Wasn't he there when they were swept in round one last season? We weren't in the playoffs last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyhee Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 BanTSN, on 29 May 2015 - 8:21 PM, said: Wasn't he there when they were swept in round one last season? We weren't in the playoffs last season Canucks were swept in the first round by L.A. in 2013 while AV and his staff including Bowness were still with the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongrel Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 no, it doesn't. it's a player attribute like size, speed, or skill. hockey iq means the ability for a player to know where to be on the ice, what play to make, etc. That is one definition yes but it applies to more than just that. I'm sorry this is a stupid hill to plant your flag on, especially when you're wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I guarantee that if the Rangers had won, "Rick Bowness" would be replaced with "Alain Vigneault". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gretzky to Lemieux Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 No offense OP, but you're hockey IQ is lower than Sbisa's. whoa whoa watch it bud thats going too far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I'm amazed at most of you calling Tampa's defence elite. lol wow guys wait till they play a real Western team with actaul skill they will simply become exploited. So far they have faced Detroit - well? how elite are they still in the transiition period. Montreal - Dale Wiese got this team to the 2nd round, how much offensive power do they have? And Rangers- well again, Rangers showed flashes of brilliance when they dominated the defence of Tampa Bay by scoring more then 5 goals numerous times. Wait till this Tampa team plays a real team with skill, you will see just how elite they are. I stick to my statement, Bowness was a mistake to let go and Tampa's got an average defensive core, which has not been tested in the playoffs. I read this yesterday and laughed and laughed and laughed .. still laughing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Another desiboy thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANUCK-EXPRESS Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Or maybe TB has a good team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyLow_ Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Hedman's one guy, who is a stud. The rest are 3-6s, they don't have a solid 2nd guy. Compare their defence to the Ducks or Chicago's. Tampa Bay has a average defence compared to real elite teams. As a Bolts fan, you are dumb. Hedman is a number 1 on any team, Stralman has been as good for Tampa this year and the Rangers last year as almost any number 2 d-man and Carle is a fantastic number 3. Nesterov is a rookie and is having a breakout playoffs. Then you have some great depth with Garrison, Coburn, Sustr. You also aren't giving credit where it's due, Tampa's offense is just plain better than any team in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Hedman's one guy, who is a stud. The rest are 3-6s, they don't have a solid 2nd guy. Compare their defence to the Ducks or Chicago's. Tampa Bay has a average defence compared to real elite teams. Yeah. It's better than Anaheim or Chicago's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliesStache14 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Canucks were swept in the first round by L.A. in 2013 while AV and his staff including Bowness were still with the Canucks. San Jose i remember all the Lu-haters were creaming themselves cause Schneider was starting. then he got torched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Biggest mistake ever!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 This guys a winner, he took a average Tampa defence to the finals. Also, he took a average defence on the Canucks' who were without Hamuis to game 7. He is a under-rated defensive coach, just look at the numbers of the defence when he was here. Furthermore, he knew how to put on the right guys in the right situations. - Bieksa was actaully decent when he was here - Tanev came to the scene during the Finals and played great - Corrado was showing potential against the sharks In short, he knew how and when to put the right pairings on, something we saw this year was lacking. After this organization fired him, it's never been the same on defence. Go win that cup Rick you deserve it.Think before you post desi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 He would've posted a similar thread if the Rangers won. Guaranteed. "Firing Alain Vigneault was the biggest mistake this organization made" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerbera Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Dude how many of those guys are top 2 guys, rangers had a stacked line up on defence. ARE YOU F---ING KIDDING ME? HEDMAN is a no.1 D. I will trade our entire defense for Hedman alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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