Gerbera Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 ...and then injured Kesler didn't want to step aside and heal. Hodgson complained as it didn't make sense. Kesler collaborated in the team's long term demise by sendin Hodgson out of town. Honestly don't think Hodgson played so well that he can ask Kesler to heal and take his role as the 2nd line C. If I remember correctly, Hodgson was playing some very protected minutes as a 3rd C. Kesler, even injured, is playing against some of the toughest competition. Unless he is playing to a point where he can either replace Henrik's offense or Kesler's defense, he will never be able to be a Top 6 on Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsedin33 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 To be fair, Hodgson played well for us in his last season here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Soldier Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 To be fair, Hodgson played well for us in his last season here. In a situation where he was sheltered extremely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbes!!! Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Some of you so easily forget what a diva he is and all the drama he caused. He only looked like decent nhl'er because he was sheltered from anything defensive. I can't believe some of you want him back. You must be the same people who want Kesler Luongo and Bertuzzi back. Good god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanBeef Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 In a situation where he was sheltered extremely. still, he played well and got us Kassian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 To me, the Coho saga describes the long-term struggle of the Canucks, the way they sell themselves to the fans, and the way the fans react in a nutshell. - The Canucks draft him and the fans are very happy. A steal, etc. - The Canucks sell him as a character guy, defensively astute, and a leader. - First camp comes and goes, he doesn't make the team. Hmmm. Maybe not as good as we thought? - He lights up junior and we start annointing him next captain, franchise savior, etc. - However, rumours of the Canucks not being able to sign him are already popping up. - He plays in the AHL after his dominating CHL player of the year season and he does not dominate the AHL. Hmmm. Not as good as we thought? - Then comes some murkiness. He for some reason hurts himself training and blames the Canucks. - The next camp comes and goes and he again doesn't make the team, and the coach of the Canucks rips him in the process. - He struggles to recover from his injury while poo-throwing between him, the Canucks and Gary freakin' Roberts commences. - Another camp comes and goes and this time he gets a polite 8 game tryout for the Canucks before being sent to the AHL, where he is mediocre. - His defensive game is now being sold as being very poor as well as his character. Perhaps not as good as we were originally told? - Finally, in the following camp he makes the Canucks. This is too late though as the Canucks core has already peaked, and he only made the team because of Malhotra's eye injury. - He scores one memorable goal against the Bruins and the fans are very happy. Next Mike Bossy, future captain, etc. - Then he's traded and the fans are very angry. - The team has to sell him as a player that was difficult to deal with all along and they had to boost his value to get any return for him at all. - The team sells Zack Kassian as the next savior due to his physicality etc. - Zack Kassian doesn't perform well and the fans grow angrier, however the team is declining after their peak and neither Hodgson nor Kassian is changing that. - Years later, at this point neither Cody Hodgson nor Zack Kassian are legit NHLers. Hmmm.. Perhaps we were oversold on both players all along? Maybe not a nutshell, hehe. But for some reason all of our top prospects, our 'future captains' and 'franchise saviours' have gone through some version of this process over a certain amount of years. Hopefully this changes. Good Christ I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChickenDinner Posted June 12, 2015 Author Share Posted June 12, 2015 To me, the Coho saga describes the long-term struggle of the Canucks, the way they sell themselves to the fans, and the way the fans react in a nutshell. - The Canucks draft him and the fans are very happy. A steal, etc. - The Canucks sell him as a character guy, defensively astute, and a leader. - First camp comes and goes, he doesn't make the team. Hmmm. Maybe not as good as we thought? - He lights up junior and we start annointing him next captain, franchise savior, etc. - However, rumours of the Canucks not being able to sign him are already popping up. - He plays in the AHL after his dominating CHL player of the year season and he does not dominate the AHL. Hmmm. Not as good as we thought? - Then comes some murkiness. He for some reason hurts himself training and blames the Canucks. - The next camp comes and goes and he again doesn't make the team, and the coach of the Canucks rips him in the process. - He struggles to recover from his injury while poo-throwing between him, the Canucks and Gary freakin' Roberts commences. - Another camp comes and goes and this time he gets a polite 8 game tryout for the Canucks before being sent to the AHL, where he is mediocre. - His defensive game is now being sold as being very poor as well as his character. Perhaps not as good as we were originally told? - Finally, in the following camp he makes the Canucks. This is too late though as the Canucks core has already peaked, and he only made the team because of Malhotra's eye injury. - He scores one memorable goal against the Bruins and the fans are very happy. Next Mike Bossy, future captain, etc. - Then he's traded and the fans are very angry. - The team has to sell him as a player that was difficult to deal with all along and they had to boost his value to get any return for him at all. - The team sells Zack Kassian as the next savior due to his physicality etc. - Zack Kassian doesn't perform well and the fans grow angrier, however the team is declining after their peak and neither Hodgson nor Kassian is changing that. - Years later, at this point neither Cody Hodgson nor Zack Kassian are legit NHLers. Hmmm.. Perhaps we were oversold on both players all along? Maybe not a nutshell, hehe. But for some reason all of our top prospects, our 'future captains' and 'franchise saviours' have gone through some version of this process over a certain amount of years. Hopefully this changes. Good Christ I hope so. Slurring the facts, its a beautiful thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Slurring the facts, its a beautiful thingExplain. Or rather, don't bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Explain. Or rather, don't bother. Not saying some of that isn't based in reality but here's clearly a bit of "biased editorial" to your post there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Not saying some of that isn't based in reality but here's clearly a bit of "biased editorial" to your post there...The only thing I see blown out of proportion is the team selling of Kassian as a savior. Not quite. But they had to definitely sell him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 One player in this deal is earning 1.9 million, scoring at a 32 point per 82 game pace the last two seasons, has solid puck possession numbers, stands up for his team-mates and provides deterrence that has notably benefited the Sedins - and was rumoured to have teams calling for his services (Boston fairly publicly) - while Benning elected to retain him because the rumoured returns were not sufficient. The other player can't be moved, scored 13 points last year for 4.25 million cap hit (with years of term left at that price), was -28 (worst among Buffalo forwards) - is one of the primary buyout candidates in the NHL - and some folks here perceive this trade to be a "wash". Cody butt-shine in action. We didn't both lose. Buffalo lost. We are not considering buying out Kassian. That should be a sign to the Hogson butt-kissers. The "Cody needs certain players to be successful" arguement, shows his lack of a complete game. This season it became obvious that speed was becoming more of a factor in the League. We need to get faster not slower. Thankfully, Gillis had the sense to get rid of that slug of a distraction. A big NO to Hogson coming back!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 To me, the Coho saga describes the long-term struggle of the Canucks, the way they sell themselves to the fans, and the way the fans react in a nutshell. - The Canucks draft him and the fans are very happy. A steal, etc. - The Canucks sell him as a character guy, defensively astute, and a leader. - First camp comes and goes, he doesn't make the team. Hmmm. Maybe not as good as we thought? - He lights up junior and we start annointing him next captain, franchise savior, etc. - However, rumours of the Canucks not being able to sign him are already popping up. - He plays in the AHL after his dominating CHL player of the year season and he does not dominate the AHL. Hmmm. Not as good as we thought? - Then comes some murkiness. He for some reason hurts himself training and blames the Canucks. - The next camp comes and goes and he again doesn't make the team, and the coach of the Canucks rips him in the process. - He struggles to recover from his injury while poo-throwing between him, the Canucks and Gary freakin' Roberts commences. - Another camp comes and goes and this time he gets a polite 8 game tryout for the Canucks before being sent to the AHL, where he is mediocre. - His defensive game is now being sold as being very poor as well as his character. Perhaps not as good as we were originally told? - Finally, in the following camp he makes the Canucks. This is too late though as the Canucks core has already peaked, and he only made the team because of Malhotra's eye injury. - He scores one memorable goal against the Bruins and the fans are very happy. Next Mike Bossy, future captain, etc. - Then he's traded and the fans are very angry. - The team has to sell him as a player that was difficult to deal with all along and they had to boost his value to get any return for him at all. - The team sells Zack Kassian as the next savior due to his physicality etc. - Zack Kassian doesn't perform well and the fans grow angrier, however the team is declining after their peak and neither Hodgson nor Kassian is changing that. - Years later, at this point neither Cody Hodgson nor Zack Kassian are legit NHLers. Hmmm.. Perhaps we were oversold on both players all along? Maybe not a nutshell, hehe. But for some reason all of our top prospects, our 'future captains' and 'franchise saviours' have gone through some version of this process over a certain amount of years. Hopefully this changes. Good Christ I hope so. This post gave me cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 This post gave me cancer. Hold your mother's hand while she's dying of cancer and let me know if that joke is still funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Kassian is not a legit NHLer? Ok, TOML. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Kassian is not a legit NHLer? Ok, TOML.Can you let WD know then? Point was that neither player is all that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 The only thing I see blown out of proportion is the team selling of Kassian as a savior. Not quite. But they had to definitely sell him. Funny stuff. Cody was proclaimed our future Captain and #1 center by many. Some projected Kassian to be an elite power forward. Most bashed him from the start, boohooing about the loss of their hero. Which one sounds more like a proclamation of saviourhood? The Cody butt-shiners are still blowing it out of proportion. His starstruck fans still defend him no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewismyname Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Hodgson fanboy extraordinaire. Start a petition to have Benning sign him. Then you'll be able to go to his autograph signing and tell him how much you love him and how much of a great and misunderstood player he is. *edit* Removed a d*ckish comment I made at the end. Why? Id rather the fact that your response was a personal insult be made obvious. When there is one year that a player plays terribly, and it just happens to be the same year his team tanked, a personal insult is most likely the only response that could shelter your refusal to listen to common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltt Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 To me, the Coho saga describes the long-term struggle of the Canucks, the way they sell themselves to the fans, and the way the fans react in a nutshell. - The Canucks draft him and the fans are very happy. A steal, etc. - The Canucks sell him as a character guy, defensively astute, and a leader. - First camp comes and goes, he doesn't make the team. Hmmm. Maybe not as good as we thought? - He lights up junior and we start annointing him next captain, franchise savior, etc. - However, rumours of the Canucks not being able to sign him are already popping up. - He plays in the AHL after his dominating CHL player of the year season and he does not dominate the AHL. Hmmm. Not as good as we thought? - Then comes some murkiness. He for some reason hurts himself training and blames the Canucks. - The next camp comes and goes and he again doesn't make the team, and the coach of the Canucks rips him in the process. - He struggles to recover from his injury while poo-throwing between him, the Canucks and Gary freakin' Roberts commences. - Another camp comes and goes and this time he gets a polite 8 game tryout for the Canucks before being sent to the AHL, where he is mediocre. - His defensive game is now being sold as being very poor as well as his character. Perhaps not as good as we were originally told? - Finally, in the following camp he makes the Canucks. This is too late though as the Canucks core has already peaked, and he only made the team because of Malhotra's eye injury. - He scores one memorable goal against the Bruins and the fans are very happy. Next Mike Bossy, future captain, etc. - Then he's traded and the fans are very angry. - The team has to sell him as a player that was difficult to deal with all along and they had to boost his value to get any return for him at all. - The team sells Zack Kassian as the next savior due to his physicality etc. - Zack Kassian doesn't perform well and the fans grow angrier, however the team is declining after their peak and neither Hodgson nor Kassian is changing that. - Years later, at this point neither Cody Hodgson nor Zack Kassian are legit NHLers. Hmmm.. Perhaps we were oversold on both players all along? Maybe not a nutshell, hehe. But for some reason all of our top prospects, our 'future captains' and 'franchise saviours' have gone through some version of this process over a certain amount of years. Hopefully this changes. Good Christ I hope so. We don't need to worry about that happening again as Horvat actually WILL BE our captain of the future so we don't need to be concerned if a future pick will be a great leader or not. Problem solved... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Kassian>>>>Hodgson I said from day 1 that I liked the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Why? Id rather the fact that your response was a personal insult be made obvious. When there is one year that a player plays terribly, and it just happens to be the same year his team tanked, a personal insult is most likely the only response that could shelter your refusal to listen to common sense. Don't play the victim. It wasn't a personal insult at all. It was a schoolyard "funny" that was immature and childish so I edited it out. I've been on Hodgson's jock strap the whole season. His incredibly bad play and personal effort is inexcusable. I've said it all along on CDC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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