Baer. Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Anybody will give money to something they are passionate about. The fact that somebody is profiting from it just means they are smart. For example, I know people who put hundreds of dollars into a video game just to get different in game content. Something that isn't even physical. Literally HUNDREDS of dollars every year. Cool buildings tho. Some of them look like stadiums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Agreed it is hard to sit around and not take money that should be earmarked for the poor and use it to fill your own coffers and create monuments to your own ego and some fairy tale deity in the sky. I mean, why follow the book of said fairy tale when you can demand the poor go to jail or be poor somewhere else. I wish I had something better to do like that. maybe then I could write my own self righteous prattle on a board somewhere instead of having nothing better to do than mock. All joking aside, while the architecture is quaint, anyone who looks at these with anything but derision needs to seriously get their head on straight. It's a joke that multi million dollar monuments to people not piety are being built while people are starving on their door steps Well now you're just being silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 for quite awhile before my wife died, our church members were there to help, every step of the way...seeking nothing in return but just to serve our needs..i'll always remember their kindness and for being there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainly Mattias Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Ooo, well, I'm going to ignore the tone of this thread and post photos of insides of churches. Helsinki - Seurasaari Island & Temppeliaukion Church (built into the rock) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Goodness. I'm happy with my church of 300, thank you. Joel Osteen has done more harm to the testimony of Christianity than anyone else I can think of in recent memory. Truer words have rarely been spoken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.DirtyDangles Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Can they play hockey games at the Lakewood church? Bettman: "It's my pleasure to announce the two winning expansion bids, beginning in 17-18, are Las Vegas NV and Lakewood TX, cause bleep-you Quebec City and Canada in general" U just made my day ! LMAO :D Nothing beats the Vatican for wow factor imho. Although I have not been to Mecca or Medina, prob never will unfortunately. I would love to see them. Capacity is 5 million ?! Another amazing structure in Turkey Sabancı Mosque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etsen3 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Thought some of those were NHL/NBA arenas at first srs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckster19 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Anybody will give money to something they are passionate about. The fact that somebody is profiting from it just means they are smart. For example, I know people who put hundreds of dollars into a video game just to get different in game content. Something that isn't even physical. Literally HUNDREDS of dollars every year. Cool buildings tho. Some of them look like stadiums. Yeah but there you are getting something tangible in return, like any goods and services, food, gas, electricity, etc. Here we have people thinking they can pay their way into heaven, lol, if anything they're going straight to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 The buildings have always made for part of a marketing scheme to convince weaker non-introspective minds that this is all something divine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 U just made my day ! LMAO :D Nothing beats the Vatican for wow factor imho. Although I have not been to Mecca or Medina, prob never will unfortunately. I would love to see them. Capacity is 5 million ? Another amazing structure in Turkey Sabancı Mosque Everyone's ooing and ah-ing at the size of these churches; I'm just waiting for the day they decide to rebuild the temple in Jerusalem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Anybody will give money to something they are passionate about. The fact that somebody is profiting from it just means they are smart. For example, I know people who put hundreds of dollars into a video game just to get different in game content. Something that isn't even physical. Literally HUNDREDS of dollars every year. Cool buildings tho. Some of them look like stadiums. I would agree but prosperity preachers are basically scam artists. With video games you are paying a sum of money for a product and getting what you were told (cough cough unless that game is Mass Effect 3). Where as prosperity preachers are basically selling you miracles and the idea that giving them your money will make you rich. I actually work with a video production company and I used to get put on jobs at some church events with camera work, sometimes on camera or flipping the camera shots. These events were usually called Camp Meetings and they would fly in various famous Televangelists. Paula White, Rod Parsley, and Juanita Bynum were some of the bigger speakers we filmed. It was all very image based. Every successful speaker had someone come to our booth for a meeting on how to properly film them (what angles to use, what kind of people to show in the audience, etc.). Paula White literally stopped her sermon to have the lighting adjusted. All of them would be treated like Kings and Queens. They church they would speak at would have to fly them in (unless they had their own private jet) and then pay for them to stay in the nicest room at the Four Seasons Hotel (considered the nicest Hotel in Philly) some openly said they were staying in the penthouse of it during sermons. The church also assigned a personal drive for them to take them around the city in an Escalate. It was always strictly forbidden for us to film offering. When they did offering sometimes it would take as long as the sermon itself. They would close the doors to the church and have someone stand by them to discourage people from leaving early. They wouldn't just ask for any spare change many asked for specific sums of money often from $100-$10000 per person often saying stuff like God is telling me 15 people need to commit 10K to us and if they didn't have all the money they would set up payments. The people who often committed to the larger sums were people in desperate situations. Some were literally people with HIV, Blindness, Unable to walk, etc. Being told they could be cured for sacrificing to God financially. The money given is split 60/40 with the speaker getting 60% untaxed money (it is considered donations) and sometimes pulling in over 50k to 100k total in some sermons. A lot of people who fall for it don't get what they thought and are often left off worse or sometimes even dead. Morris Cerullo for example would tell people they were healed and cured of serious diseases and a few who believed him went off meds and died shortly later including the girl in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RtfG6dNSO8 Then speakers like Bynum are bluntly materialistic in their sermons. She is literally bragging about using a 5k pen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3TotkRPif8 I don't mind religion but prosperity preachers are pretty sick people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.DirtyDangles Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Everyone's ooing and ah-ing at the size of these churches; I'm just waiting for the day they decide to rebuild the temple in Jerusalem... Mega structure for sure. i am fascinated by ancient and current architecture. I have been watching videos on megalithic sites for a few weeks now. Would love to see more of this beautiful world and the people in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted August 5, 2015 Author Share Posted August 5, 2015 Since we're digging modern architecture, here are some of the most expensive buildings ever built: Abraj Al Bait, Mecca, Saudi Arabia $15 billion Built meters away from Islam's most sacred site, the central hotel has the world's largest clock face and is the 4th tallest building in the world. The complex's main purpose was so that Islam's pilgrims are greeted with world-class comfort. If you're going to rival the Vatican, then you have to do it up. Marina Bay Sands, Singapore $8 billion The world's most expensive casino features a 150m infinity swimming pool on the roof, which rests partially on the longest cantilevered platform in the world, which juts 67m out the north side. If anything rivals religion when it comes to big business, it's gambling. Both require prayer. Resorts World Sentosa, Singapore $4.93 billion The other casino in Singapore is central to this extravagent resort that combines several large-scale resorts into one. There is a Universal Studios three other marine themed parks, grand hotels and all imaginable immenities available. Essentially a Disneyworld on steroids, with gambling. Singapore be rollin! Emirates Palace, Dhubai $4.46 billion A luxury hotel designed to show off the benefits of arabian culture to the international community is rated 'beyond 5 star'. It's 302 rooms and 92 suites are decorated with gold and marble features throughout. Rooms start at just $470 a night. Cheap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckster19 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Zamunda Palace This symbol of Zamundan opulence is the home of King Jaffe Joffer, some may know him also as the voice of Darth Vader and "Bleeding Gums" Murphy, his son, Crown Prince Akeem Joffer is also widely recognized as the voice of Donkey in the Shrek film series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted August 6, 2015 Author Share Posted August 6, 2015 I've always found this one to be astounding: First Baptist Church, Dallas, TX 11,000 Pastor Robert Jeffress sermonized that homosexuals are filthy, degrading beyond description, and their filthy acts explain why they are so much more prone to disease. Also, Islam is an evil, evil religion. He's anti-Jew, anti-black, anti-Mormon, etc. Basically anti-everyone who doesn't line his pockets with riches or gets in his way to becoming an eventual GOP candidate for president of the united states. He's a Fox News wet dream and example how relative and effective the KKK still is today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offensive Threat Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 U just made my day ! LMAO :D Nothing beats the Vatican for wow factor imho. I actually was at one of these Masses in 1990. We were backpacking Europe and happened by random to be there as the square was filling with people , so we waited, saw the Pope (Pope John Paul II) in his Popemobile going through the crowd as he went in waving. The P.A. system they were using was impressive. I cant understand Italian but we could hear him perfectly during the Mass. Maybe 30,000 - 50,000 People there. Its hard to judge the number though. It was kinda like being at a concert for a band your not really into...Still it was very interesting. The line to tour the Vatican after the mass was surprisingly short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.DirtyDangles Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I actually was at one of these Masses in 1990. We were backpacking Europe and happened by random to be there as the square was filling with people , so we waited, saw the Pope (Pope John Paul II) in his Popemobile going through the crowd as he went in waving. The P.A. system they were using was impressive. I cant understand Italian but we could hear him perfectly during the Mass. Maybe 30,000 - 50,000 People there. Its hard to judge the number though. It was kinda like being at a concert for a band your not really into...Still it was very interesting. The line to tour the Vatican after the mass was surprisingly short. I was amazed at the architecture and art inside. Have also seen the pope speak at the Vatican and at St. Sophia's cathedral. It was in 88, Ukraine was celebrating 1000 years of Christianity. Went on a tour of the Vatican catacombs underneath the papal vineyards it was quite unnerving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 They built one like this near my house. It's not as big. But it looks like some of these in the pictures. Meanwhile not even five minutes away is the famous tent city where the many homeless reside. Nice priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAce Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Zamunda Palace This symbol of Zamundan opulence is the home of King Jaffe Joffer, some may know him also as the voice of Darth Vader and "Bleeding Gums" Murphy, his son, Crown Prince Akeem Joffer is also widely recognized as the voice of Donkey in the Shrek film series. haha.... nice job with the Coming to America reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckster19 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 haha.... nice job with the Coming to America reference Interestingly enough, shortly after their arrival to America, Crown Prince Akeem Joffer's best friend since childhood Semmi, was given his own talk show on CBS, he even ended up changing his name to Arsenio Hall. Strangely though he used traditional Zamundan ape hoots on his show, seemed somewhat racist, but people loved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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