Devoted Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I want Hutton along with Shinkaruk Horvat Fox Gaunce Cassels Cederholm all playing for Canucks next season Not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I want Hutton along with Shinkaruk Horvat Fox Gaunce Cassels Cederholm all playing for Canucks next season Thats insane. we'd be an even crappier version of the oilers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wshdrvvn Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I hope you're managing your expectations on that, or at least very prepared for being let down. If Hutton's going back for another year, he won't even be at training camp to compete for a spot since it'd be against NCAA rules. That's the first name on your list crossed off already. he could still go to camp, but he would have to pay his own way for traveling, lodging, meals, etc. the NCAA rule prohibits receiving gifts from professional teams while in college; participating otherwise is allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wshdrvvn Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I want Hutton along with Shinkaruk Horvat Fox Gaunce Cassels Cederholm all playing for Canucks next season not sure if your serious. even if all 7 of those guys were NHL ready as soon as next season, how do we clear 7 roster spots for them? start trading guys away to do so and you'll probably end up with players more NHL ready than those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I though I hear Hutton was returning to the ncaa next season, is there any chance he chances his mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihatetomatoes Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Lp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I though I hear Hutton was returning to the ncaa next season, is there any chance he chances his mind? it's doubtful he leaves early, but there's ALWAYS a possibility... however remote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 he could still go to camp, but he would have to pay his own way for traveling, lodging, meals, etc. the NCAA rule prohibits receiving gifts from professional teams while in college; participating otherwise is allowed. he'd also have to miss out on the start of the NCAA season and team practices and the first couple weeks of classes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangelos Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) I would be ok with Sauve being cut or packaged in a lesser deal much like Kellen Munchkin and mid pic for Dalpe and Welsh I just pray that Hutton doesnt leave us standing at the altar like recent graduates have to their respective teams Why would he ? He'll earn much more money in the NHL. Helll even if he's a career AHLer he'll still live a very comfy lifestyle Edited May 27, 2014 by Tangelos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I want Hutton along with Shinkaruk Horvat Fox Gaunce Cassels Cederholm all playing for Canucks next season And I want a unicorn. Doesn't make it realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niloc009 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Why would he ? He'll earn much more money in the NHL. Helll even if he's a career AHLer he'll still live a very comfy lifestyle He's talking about Hutton pulling a Schultz/Hayes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Rake Fighter Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 He's talking about Hutton pulling a Schultz/Hayes. I think they closed that loophole in the last collective bargaining agreement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 I think they closed that loophole in the last collective bargaining agreement nope, there was talk about them using it as a negotiating chip but it was never addressed, for instance, Kevin Hayes's drafted rights expiring on August 15 with the blackhawks where he'll be able to be a UFA afterward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wshdrvvn Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 broken record here but again, what hayes is doing is NOT the same as what justin schultz did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niloc009 Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Ignoring team that drafted him to sign with another as a UFA. While they didn't go the same process, the end result is still the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wshdrvvn Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 not really though. schultz was a UFA after only playing 3 seasons of NCAA hockey. most guys gotta wait 4. thats why its considered him using a loophole where as hayes is doing something any prospect could choose to; no loophole there at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 not really though. schultz was a UFA after only playing 3 seasons of NCAA hockey. most guys gotta wait 4. thats why its considered him using a loophole where as hayes is doing something any prospect could choose to; no loophole there at all. I`m pretty sure they each waited until August 15 of the fourth year. The only difference is that Hayes started his college career in his draft year and Schultz played another year in Westbank before going on to play three years at Wisconsin. As far as I know, any college draftee can sign anywhere as a free agent after four years in August. Whether they actually played four years of college hockey, like Hayes, three, like Schultz, or even two as is occasionally the case doesn`t really come into it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Heyman Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I would be so rattled if Hutts pulled a Schultz on us, doubt he would though. Even though some chick from his Uni interviewed him as a "Campus Sports Cutie" or something and he said his favourite sports team was the Colorado Avalanche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wshdrvvn Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I`m pretty sure they each waited until August 15 of the fourth year. The only difference is that Hayes started his college career in his draft year and Schultz played another year in Westbank before going on to play three years at Wisconsin. As far as I know, any college draftee can sign anywhere as a free agent after four years in August. Whether they actually played four years of college hockey, like Hayes, three, like Schultz, or even two as is occasionally the case doesn`t really come into it yeah you've got it. but schultz leaving school early as a UFA is the key difference. like you said, it's cause of the extra year of junior he played. its my understanding that is where the 'loophole' comes into play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 (edited) yeah you've got it. but schultz leaving school early as a UFA is the key difference. like you said, it's cause of the extra year of junior he played. its my understanding that is where the 'loophole' comes into play. the loophole is still there, it's just a little more defined. http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2013/6/7/4404684/nhl-cba-college-loophole-ncaa-change justin schultz could still do a justin schultz, and players who do 4 seasons of NCAA can as well, but they have to wait until Aug 31 to become a UFA (missing the July 1st feeding frenzy that Schultz and othe players like himself can do), even if they drop a class and leave without graduating. that's the minor tweak the new CBA has done, which really didn't do much. as for hutton, he'd have to wait until Aug 31 after his fourth NCAA season to become a UFA. Edited May 30, 2014 by avelanch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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