Camel Toe Drag Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 32 minutes ago, shiznak said: Then why is CDC so infatuated in picking Mitelstadt and Vilardi, when many scouts have said both players are more than likely to become wingers than centermen? They didn't say that at all actually. They said that both players could have success at the NHL playing wing. However it is not the end all plan for both players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B53 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 50 minutes ago, Salmonberries said: I wouldn't want to do it but I'd be willing to move the 33 pick down into the 40s to flip 3 for 5 and lock in on Vilardi as it's probably the only way that happens for us. I'd play with Colorado too but only at the draft and only if Vilardi is still there. I really think something like this could happen as Dallas and Colorado are both probably looking at Makar or Heiskanen anyway based on team need. Stay tuned I guess eh. Unfortunately, it would take a hell of a lot more then swapping 33 for 40 something to get up to the number 3 pick. The value of having that 3rd pick to select Vilardi, is so much more valuable then having to select between Heiskanen, Liljegren, Makar, Mittlestadt, Glass, Necas, Rasmussen, Pettersson, etc. (Those are all the different names you hear at number 5) Like you mentioned though, I hope both Makar and Heiskanen go at 3 and 4. Im confident one of the two will take Heiskanen, but Vilardi to get past over twice is unlikely. **This draft kind of reminds me of a few years ago. Patrick is the Reinhart, Hischier is the Ehlers, Heiskanen is kinda the Ekblad, Glass is the Dal Cole, and Rasmussen is the local boy Virtanen. But its possible that Vilardi, the Draisaitl, becomes the best player in the draft Vilradi will be something like 6`3 220 at the NHL level. He is 11 months younger then Nolan Patrick. He has the best fancy stats on Windsor by far. Every single forward on the team had stronger numbers with Vilardi on their line. He`s the only guy outside the top two that makes you feel comfortable that you have your future 1st line centre. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 15 minutes ago, The 5th Line said: You should be able to squeeze more out of Dallas for taking that contract. Benning needs to somehow pry that 3rd away from them without giving up our 5th Tanev + prospect/young player or draft pick for Goalie + 3rd I'd honestly prefer to see if we couldn't get their ANA 1st (+?) for taking Lehtonen alone. Move Tanev to ARZ for their 7th+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashlynnbrookefan Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, J.R. said: I'd honestly prefer to see if we couldn't get their ANA 1st (+?) for taking Lehtonen alone. Move Tanev to ARZ for their 7th+ I'd like those moves too but I think you're shooting for the moon on both trades, both seem unrealistic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigturk8 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Camel Toe Drag said: GREAT JOB BUDDYYYY! Thanks babe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 48MPHSlapShot Posted June 2, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2017 I'd rather Benning figure out out a way to acquire another high pick then simply "move up". But JB, for the love of God, don't trade the farm away just to move up a couple of spots. Can anybody say with any certainty that Patrick or Hischier will be better than Vilardi, Glass or Mittelstadt? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 11 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: I'd rather Benning figure out out a way to acquire another high pick then simply "move up". But JB, for the love of God, don't trade the farm away just to move up a couple of spots. Can anybody say with any certainty that Patrick or Hischier will be better than Vilardi, Glass or Mittelstadt? Middlestadt could easily be the best of the draft. So could Makar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Toe Drag Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 51 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: I'd rather Benning figure out out a way to acquire another high pick then simply "move up". But JB, for the love of God, don't trade the farm away just to move up a couple of spots. Can anybody say with any certainty that Patrick or Hischier will be better than Vilardi, Glass or Mittelstadt? No not even close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Toe Drag Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Salmonberries said: That might depend on whether Clayton Keller is loaned to them or not. Fair point. It's always a little extra reason for me to grab a player that makes one of the national teams and has instrumental role in a run... Mittel, Necas, Glass... we really can't go wrong in that department. I think it's great for their development and learning how to be in the spot light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 5 hours ago, Bigturk8 said: JB probably wants Vilardi. Do it JB! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 3 hours ago, Alflives said: You mean the dreaded JB throw in 2nd round pick: Vey, Baer, Sutter, Gudbranson? If giving up a second round pick we got for free means we get Vilardi you do it. This guy is the gem of the draft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashlynnbrookefan Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, messier's_elbow said: If giving up a second round pick we got for free means we get Vilardi you do it. This guy is the gem of the draft! I'd rather glass or Mittlestadt and whoever they're targeting in the 55th range for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 I wouldn't mind trading up to third if the price isn't too bad maybe swap picks and take one of their goalies. Guarantee Vilardi at 3rd if he's really the guy they like also I think there is a small small chance of Vilardi going 2nd and Patrick going 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashlynnbrookefan Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said: I wouldn't mind trading up to third if the price isn't too bad maybe swap picks and take one of their goalies. Guarantee Vilardi at 3rd if he's really the guy they like also I think there is a small small chance of Vilardi going 2nd and Patrick going 3rd. If they could make the trade with just taking on one of those goalie contracts I'd be all over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) 37 minutes ago, ashlynnbrookefan said: I'd rather glass or Mittlestadt and whoever they're targeting in the 55th range for sure Mittelstadt is a player I wouldn't mind having. I like Glass too but he's not the next Johansen. Edited June 2, 2017 by messier's_elbow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashlynnbrookefan Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, messier's_elbow said: Mittelstadt is a player I wouldn't m Me having. I like Glass too but he's not the next Johansen. I just think our cupboard isn't near full enough to be trading away picks. I like Villardi just not that much more than the other guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANUCK-EXPRESS Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, The 5th Line said: You should be able to squeeze more out of Dallas for taking that contract. Benning needs to somehow pry that 3rd away from them without giving up our 5th Tanev + prospect/young player or draft pick for Goalie + 3rd Agree. I'd only do the trade with Dallas if we can somehow not give up the 5th. Draft a C and D. Edited June 2, 2017 by CANUCK-EXPRESS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 4 hours ago, WeneedLumme said: Sounds like pure speculation. But even if it's true that there have been conversations, who is to say that Dallas didn't initiate them because they would like to trade their lottery ticket for some immediate help? In the interview JB didn't really seem like he was to interested.. He basically just said, yeah we will call them but we are happy picking at 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 I found this quote from Devils director of amateur scouting, Paul Castron, quite interesting, it talks about their interview with glass a bit Quote I have to keep reminding myself and the whole staff that we're in the projection business. I think it's so easy to get caught up in the thought that this guy scored 40 goals this year and that guy only got 15, but maybe the 40 guy got way more ice time or was on a better team and that's why he had better numbers … does that necessarily mean he's a better player? What about five years from now? It's hard because numbers do jump out at you and they're hard to ignore. For example, Cody Glass (projected as a top-10 selection) had 94 points last year and there's nothing to him (6'2", 170). When he puts on 25 pounds, how much better can he be? He's got a lot of upside. So in his interview I asked him to compare himself to other players in the WHL, and what I really wanted to know is if he thought he was better than Nolan Patrick and he said, "Not today, but maybe in a few years I will be." That's what we need to keep in mind as we put this draft list together. We're not trying to decide who is the better player today, but who's going to be the better player in two, three, five years - once they've filled out physically and developed their skills a little bit more. It's hard. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHitman Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Mittlestadt/Vilardi and Petterson would be a good draft for us if we got another pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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