Sweathog Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 I agree with us needing more team toughness, I just don't see how we can establish that kind of culture with players like the Sedins and Edler as leaders of this team. For this team to get that pack mentality we got to change the leadership group of this team. Give Guddy the 'C' (until Horvat is ready to take over) and give the alternates to guys like Dorsett and Sbisa (if he's still here) Signing Peluso wouldn't hurt either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabychStache Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 6 hours ago, Sweathog said: I agree with us needing more team toughness, I just don't see how we can establish that kind of culture with players like the Sedins and Edler as leaders of this team. For this team to get that pack mentality we got to change the leadership group of this team. Give Guddy the 'C' (until Horvat is ready to take over) and give the alternates to guys like Dorsett and Sbisa (if he's still here) Signing Peluso wouldn't hurt either. Horvat is ready for the role, ask D. Nurse. Its his team already. Hank will be Captain this year, then its Bo Time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweathog Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 1 hour ago, BabychStache said: Horvat is ready for the role, ask D. Nurse. Its his team already. Hank will be Captain this year, then its Bo Time. I think Bo will be a great captain, but there's no point in giving him the captaincy now. Let him be an alternate now and get him to wear the 'C' when he's around 25. Horvat can probably already handle the pressure of being captain in this city, but why take the chance? Let him just focus on hockey for the next few years and not have to deal with the wolves in our media, especially since we're going through a rebuild and our media will likely be pretty toxic in the near future. Guddy on the other hand is more experienced and, like Horvat, plays with heart and physicality which is the example that needs to be set for the rest of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieBush Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Sweathog said: I think Bo will be a great captain, but there's no point in giving him the captaincy now. Let him be an alternate now and get him to wear the 'C' when he's around 25. Horvat can probably already handle the pressure of being captain in this city, but why take the chance? Let him just focus on hockey for the next few years and not have to deal with the wolves in our media, especially since we're going through a rebuild and our media will likely be pretty toxic in the near future. Guddy on the other hand is more experienced and, like Horvat, plays with heart and physicality which is the example that needs to be set for the rest of the team. Captaincy is not something you change every 2-3 seasons (barring major roster moves). Keep the captaincy('s) with the HOFers and when they have finished their illustrious careers, you hand it off to Bo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweathog Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, ReggieBush said: Captaincy is not something you change every 2-3 seasons (barring major roster moves). Keep the captaincy('s) with the HOFers and when they have finished their illustrious careers, you hand it off to Bo. I have to respectfully disagree, you hand it off to the guy the team needs to lead it now. That means taking it from Henrik and giving it to Gudbranson, and then giving it to Bo when this team is on the upswing again in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Let's examine team toughness in tonight's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adarsh Sant Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Sweathog said: I have to respectfully disagree, you hand it off to the guy the team needs to lead it now. That means taking it from Henrik and giving it to Gudbranson, and then giving it to Bo when this team is on the upswing again in a few years. We did that with Luongo look how that went Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweathog Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Adarsh Sant said: We did that with Luongo look how that went Luongo was a bad choice I agree, but has nothing to do with Gudbranson's ability to lead this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adarsh Sant Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Sweathog said: Luongo was a bad choice I agree, but has nothing to do with Gudbranson's ability to lead this team. Bo is much more marketable than Guddy so he'll probably get it instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweathog Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Adarsh Sant said: Bo is much more marketable than Guddy so he'll probably get it instead You're right about Bo being the better choice from a marketing perspective, and that he'll most likely be the next captain. I just feel that given where this team is now, there's no point in giving Bo that extra pressure unnecessarily, not when he's still so young. Gudbranson on the other hand has the attributes to provide the kind of leadership that the Canucks need now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 27 minutes ago, Sweathog said: You're right about Bo being the better choice from a marketing perspective, and that he'll most likely be the next captain. I just feel that given where this team is now, there's no point in giving Bo that extra pressure unnecessarily, not when he's still so young. Gudbranson on the other hand has the attributes to provide the kind of leadership that the Canucks need now. Just let Hank keep the C for his last season here and give Horvat the A. If Gudbranson can't provide leadership without being captain, he has no business wearing a letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 11 hours ago, Sweathog said: You're right about Bo being the better choice from a marketing perspective, and that he'll most likely be the next captain. I just feel that given where this team is now, there's no point in giving Bo that extra pressure unnecessarily, not when he's still so young. Gudbranson on the other hand has the attributes to provide the kind of leadership that the Canucks need now. I honestly think Guddy needs at least a full year without injury before we consider him as captain. No disrespect to him, but it kind of helps to be on the ice when wearing a letter. If he had not been injured last season, then I would have agreed with you, but that's not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 On 2017-03-29 at 9:34 PM, kingofsurrey said: Really think losing Torres was a major mistake by our club's management. Torres had that rare mix of super skill / speed / and toughness Hoping Virt can fill that role. Interesting that Torres was a 5th overall pick..... Don't buy the "super skill" part but he certainly had a knack for getting suspended...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 13 hours ago, King Heffy said: Just let Hank keep the C for his last season here and give Horvat the A. If Gudbranson can't provide leadership without being captain, he has no business wearing a letter. Couldn't the same be said of Horvat? Or any other player for that matter. Fans put way to much on a letter. Leaders lead regardless of a letter on their chest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, Baggins said: Don't buy the "super skill" part but he certainly had a knack for getting suspended...... Don't kid yourself .... Torres had a 43 goal season in the OHL and was a first round fifth overall pick. Torres had a 27 goal season with the Oilers... He could play and when he was on the ice , the other teams all knew it a...... Edited June 6, 2017 by kingofsurrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianRugby Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 23 hours ago, Sweathog said: I have to respectfully disagree, you hand it off to the guy the team needs to lead it now. That means taking it from Henrik and giving it to Gudbranson, and then giving it to Bo when this team is on the upswing again in a few years. Based on him being ineffective defensively or injured most of the year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 2 hours ago, kingofsurrey said: Don't kid yourself .... Torres had a 43 goal season in the OHL and was a first round fifth overall pick. Torres had a 27 goal season with the Oilers... He could play and when he was on the ice , the other teams all knew it a...... The OHL is not the NHL. From the time he joined the Canucks his best season was 14 goals/29 points with the Nucks and 15 goals the following season in Phoenix. It was all downhill from there for him leading to a 41 game suspension. You have a very low standard for "super skill". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 I see Horvat wearing an A next season, then the captaincy. I also think Gudbranson will be one of our future assistant captains. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 8 minutes ago, Qwags said: I see Horvat wearing an A next season, then the captaincy. I also think Gudbranson will be one of our future assistant captains. This. There's no way you take away the captaincy from one of the best players the team has ever had. That's disgraceful. Team toughness can be defined in a # of ways. I happen to like the strong on the puck, durable character guys like Bo. The players that play the 200' game with passion and NEVER give up. These are the guys that win you the cup, when the elite guys have been injured or stymied by the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Baggins said: The OHL is not the NHL. From the time he joined the Canucks his best season was 14 goals/29 points with the Nucks and 15 goals the following season in Phoenix. It was all downhill from there for him leading to a 41 game suspension. You have a very low standard for "super skill". Guys that get 27 goals in a season in the best hockey league in the world have super skill in my opinion..... But then again i play rec D league... LOL Edited June 6, 2017 by kingofsurrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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