xereau Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 New lines and combinations emerge that no one, including management, had any clue existed. New core pieces emerge and establish themselves. A couple more trades that enrage, and surprise. Miss the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptKirk888 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 4 hours ago, groovy said: This is the opening statement: Long and simple read warranting short and simple response. Oops sorry, carry on, or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC20.0 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Line 1: Sedin-Sedin-Granlund Line 2: Baertschi-Horvat-Boeser Line 3: Eriksson-Sutter-Goldobin Line 4: Virtanen-Gaunce-Dorsett Megna, Molino, Boucher Pair 1: Edler-Stecher Pair 2: Hutton-Tanev Pair 3: Tryamkin-Gudbranson Juolevi, Subban Markstrom Bachman Lose: Sbisa(Exp. Draft), Miller, Chaput, Larsen, Skille Question Marks: UFA Winger? UFA backup? 2017 1st Rounder Possible D trade to get rid of our log jam. Coach: Green (Crow'd be great tho). Miss the playoffs. Bottom 5 finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 10 hours ago, NutsBoutNucks said: Long and simple read warranting short and simple response. What are your predictions regarding OUR 2017-2018 VANCOUVER CANUCKS, from coaches and trainers to veterans and prospects? I would appreciate your thoughtful input. FORWARDS: LINE 1 Baerschi LW Horvat C Boeser RW LINE 2 Ericsson LW Granlund C Goldobin RW LINE 3 D.Sedin LW H.Sedin C Virtanen RW LINE 4 Gaunce LW Sutter C Dorsett RW EXTRA FORWARDS: Boucher C/LW Shore RW Molino C/LW Chaput C/LW Megna RW LONG SHOTS: Dahlen C/LW 2017 1st round DEFENSEMEN: 1ST PAIR Edler LD Tanev RD 2ND PAIR Hutton LD Gudbranson RD 3RD PAIR Tryamkin LD Stecher RD EXTRA DEFENCE: Sbisa LD Subban RD Biega LD Pedan RD LONG SHOTS: Juolevi LD McEneny LD Chatfield RD GOALTENDERS: STARTING Markstrom BACKUP Bachman LONG SHOTS: Demko Gartieg EXTRAS IN UTICA FOR CALLUP RE: TOUGHNESS: Labate FW Archibald FW Pedan D EXPANSION*/TRADE BAIT**/REDUNDANT***: Jayson Megna*/*** Luca Sbisa*/** Alex Biega*/*** Brandon Sutter** Christopher Tanev** 2017-2018 DRAFT CHOICES: ROUND ONE: Nolan Patrick C Nico Hischier C Casey Mittelstadt C ROUND TWO AND ON 'BEST OF THE REST': Elias Pettersson C Matthew Strome LW Nikita Popugaev LW Maxime Comtois LW Robin Salo D RELEASED: Ryan Miller G Philip Larsen D Jack Skille F Joseph Cramarossa F BIGGEST QUESTION MARKS: Coaching Staff Changes 2017/2018 Draft Expansion Pick Youth Movement (Virtanen, Subban, Dahlen, Juolevi) Anton Rodin Free Agency FUTURE CONCERNS: The Sedins Alex Edler Prospect Development Stanley Cup! PERSONAL PREDICTION FOR 2017-2018: Travis Green will push our team just short of the playoffs with ~90 point season In My Personal Opinion: Everything starts from the top and reflects downwards. We have incredible ownership. Passionate, local owners with deep pockets and a desire to win. The biggest complaint by some fans that the owners are constant, ill-informed, or knee-jerk meddlers is a total farce...who wouldn't want to have input on a near billion dollar investment involving a huge passion. The Aquilini's love hockey, entertainment and the limelight. And for that I am thankful and as fans we are blessed. The entire coaching staff needs to be let go and replaced with experienced, high-energy, reputable coaches, assistants and specialists. Complete overhaul required. But beyond the coaching staff, I would look long and hard at the training and medical staff for deficiencies and improvement regarding our poor history of injury and illness. Playing injured, coming back early from injury...is it error in medical opinion or outdated/inefficient training? The trio of Linden/Benning/Weisbrod are efficient and on track. A few years to round out the rebuild and put us within a couple years of exciting and competitive hockey is a success. I foresee a rebuild turnaround comparable to the likes of the Shanahan/Lamoriello/Babcock Maple Leafs, as opposed to the former Oiler Alumni botch job with their team. Our patience is far more apt to pay off with the work our brain trust has provided. In my opinion, the future is very bright. I am a well informed fan of forty plus years and have played hockey competitively. I've always enjoyed both the physical and the mental side of playing and watching my favourite sport of ice hockey. So without intended bias or prejudice, I'd like to present my thought and theory on a suggestion in achieving additional success. It involves the fans, the economy and the ownership. We need a louder, more vocal and reputable house. The deejay has it right with music and goal song schematics...maybe some more of that original, 'organ themed' hockey catch-tunes that are fan-interactive (older fans know the popular pipe organ ditties I'm referring too). The biggest change is needed at the box office. Cheap seats will attract a louder, more enthusiastic crowd. There's plenty of nose bleeds and upper levels that can have significant price reduction to assist in atmospherically boost. The high end lower reds draw too much corporate and heavily restrained 'viewers' as opposed to 'fanaticals' and all the silence, texting and even boredom or lack of knowledge is overly telling. I realize the stereotyping I'm putting out there, but the truth is known and obvious. Younger and less restrained have a harder time constantly affording tickets, let alone season tickets. Corporations and wealthy or upper class citizens tend to lead to no-shows, restrictive and promoted/gifted/forced attendance...not exactly your enthusiastic participant. And while ownership is at it, throw in an arena-encompassing cell phone/smartphone jammer! The financial pinch from ticket prices can be compensated with strategic pricing...cheaper beer for the fanatics and pricier food service, private box costs, corporate advertising and luxury service fees and increases. I am basing my suggestions from experience and first hand knowledge to systematic spending and cost acceptance. My 'Canuck Fanatic' sees me enjoying games, with friends and beers and plenty of noise, yet when I'm in lower reds I'm feeling shunned and quelled. My success financially has allowed me two years of fifth level box rental (pampered, expensive but too far and detached from the hockey atmosphere) but I didn't see much restraint on the spending and plenty of show offs. It was much the same with friends and associates frequenting other fifth level, third level, luxury services, valet services and food services. Money amongst corporations and the wealthy are either written off or typical of excessive lifestyle so it will pass with acceptance and open the door to the slightly less fortunate or the slightly more thrifty and budgeted fans that just want to come and cheer the home team until the final buzzer. Tanev, Elder, Sbisa - 1,2, or all three may not be here next year. I suspect Juolevi will make the club out of camp as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NutsBoutNucks Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share Posted April 15, 2017 Thanks for the insight! I don't really like the long posts either but I don't post often (once a year?!) unless I get curious or frustrated in the direction of the team. I read some good opinions as always... I'd like a better atmosphere, an exciting offensive-minded coach (like a Crawford but not Crawford lol) and a lineup with the right mix of our youth and our existing veterans and just go for it, surprise the league like the 2015 Avalanche. Edmonton may have missed for a decade with their youth but Toronto didn't. Hoping for lottery draft luck, a few camp surprises and a bounce back year from half the roster and top it off with a cure for cancer! Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Nirvanagut Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Perfectly content with your lineups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standing_Tall#37 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I think Edler & Sbisa have to be gone in order for Joulevi to get a chance. What if we pick 1/2? I can't really think of the last time a top 2 pick was left to regress in Jr. But who is moved from the top 3 lines? The Sedins and eriksson are kind of blocking the transition of this team. It's not a bad thing but there's not enough spots right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckYa Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 8 hours ago, RetroCanuck said: Sedins-Eriksson the three sisters At this point of their respected careers? Not cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, CoolCanucklehead said: At this point of their respected careers? Not cool. haha it was a joke. They've been called that by other organizations fans for years. I was merely referencing Eriksson as the third sister. But its all jokes. they've had incredible careers and 22and 33 numbers will be retired and all that. Great people as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeekz37 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 8 hours ago, Rocky Balboa said: 1) There will be 25+ posts regarding the Sedins and their play. 2) 50+ posts with line up suggestions 3) A thread title "Was hiring [insert new coach name] a mistake?" 4) A thread with "Was drafting [insert draft pick]" a mistake?" 5) 100 dozen threads on how someone would fix this team ^ this is along the lines of my prediction. I would like to wait until a couple days after free agency before I start to theorize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 7 hours ago, HC20.0 said: Line 1: Sedin-Sedin-Goldobin Line 2: Baertschi-Horvat-Boeser Line 3: Eriksson-Sutter-Virtanen Line 4: Boucher-Gaunce-Dorsett Megna, Molino No Granlund? My predictions.. Line 1: Baertschi- Horvat- Boeser Line 2: Sedin- Sedin- Granlund Line 3: Goldobin- Sutter- Eriksson Line 4: Megna- Gaunce- Dorsett Pair 1: Edler- Tanev Pair 2: Hutton- Gudbranson Pair 3- Stetcher- Tryamkin Goaltenders Miller Markstrom Coach: Green Lost in expansion: Boucher Traded: Sbisa (For a 3rd rd pick) What I would prefer... Line 1: Baertschi- Horvat- Boeser Line 2: Sedin- Sedin- Goldobin Line 3: Erikkson- Hischier/Patrick/Vilardi- Granlund Line 4: Boucher- Gaunce- Dorsett Pair 1: Stetcher- Tanev Pair 2: Hutton- Tryamkin Pair 3: Subban/Pedan- Gudbranson Goaltenders Markstrom Bachman Coach: Crawford (Green brought in as associate) Lost in expansion: Sbisa Traded: Edler, Sutter (For picks/prospects) Variables: Assuming Edler doesn't waive, one of Tanev/Hutton (packaged with something else most likely) moved for relatively high end forward prospect or late 1st rd pick) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 10 hours ago, GiveEmTheCan said: COACH Travis Green MANAGEMENT Jim Benning John Weisbrod (Trevor Linden resigns sometime next season) DRAFT Gabe Vilardi (3rd) (Please god don't draft another D with a top 5 pick) Sbisa is taken by Vegas LINES Baertschi - Horvat - Boeser Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson Granlund - Vilardi - Goldobin (3G line!) Virtanen - Sutter - Dorsett Gaunce/Boucher Tanev - Edler Gudbranson - Hutton Stetcher - Tryamkin Markstrom UFA STANDINGS 78 points (11th in the West) The Sedins should see better deployment under the fresh eyes of Green; but another year of wear and a disinterested linemate will see them finish with less points overall. Henrik 42 points. Danny 44 points. Eriksson 41 points (23 goals) Horvat will see his production start to plateau against better opposition. Boeser will battle with inconsistency due to the NHL grind. Baertschi will be injured for 30 games next year. Horvat 58 points (21 goals). Boeser 47 points (20 goals). Baertschi 38 points (in 51 games played) Granlund will be the surprise of the season. He should take a big step forward once healthy and playing with better line mates. Goldobin will be a healthy scratch and replaced with Virtanen at points next year. Canucks will draft a Centerman and plug him into the lineup next season. Granlund 47 points (27 goals; team lead). Vilardi 37 points. Goldobin 32 points. The 4th line will continue to be a mess. Sutter will struggle to find a place on this team and will be traded at the deadline 100%. Virtanen 17 points (9 goals). Sutter 24 points (12 goals) Dorsett 10 points. You're now the 2nd person to suggest Sutter as 4C, ignoring the fact that he's curently our 2nd best center (slightly behind Bo) and our best FO man. Obviously Henrik will get 2C minutes because we can't play him in a checking role, but there's no way Sutter ends up on the 4th line. There's more of a chance at Sutter playing with the Sedins than 4C. Sutter was on pace to match his career high totals until he hurt his wrist. I can't remember which Canuck said it but apparently Sutter was struggling to even make a fist. So I'd say he deserves a break and little more respect. Regardless, I don't think Vilardi cracks our lineup next year. We'd probably send him back to Junior (barring a trade) and then bring him in the folloing year when the Sedins move on/retire. Also, why do you think Sven loses 30 games next year? I'd say he's a safe bet for 68.5 games played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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48MPHSlapShot Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Hopefully Horvat can reach 60 points next season. I see Baertschi netting 40-50 points, assuming he plays most of the season. Consistency is key for him. Boeser I see netting similar numbers to Baertschi and getting some serious Calder consideration. The Sedins I see netting roughly the same number of points next season as they did this season. Same with Eriksson as he struggles to find a line to play on. Hopefully Granlund can net himself 25 goals and add another 20-25 assists to establish himself as a legit top 6. I see Tryamkin making some offensive strides next season and finishing with roughly 15-20 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC20.0 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 11 hours ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: No Granlund? Whoops, good catch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Nirvanagut Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I predict many bad trade proposals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux4lyfe Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 This thread lost all credibility when I didn't see Megna on the first line, How dare you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 We gonna suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckleHorse Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 23 hours ago, HC20.0 said: Line 1: Sedin-Sedin-Granlund Line 2: Baertschi-Horvat-Boeser Line 3: Eriksson-Sutter-Goldobin Line 4: Virtanen-Gaunce-Dorsett Camarossa, Boucher Pair 1: Edler-Gudbranson Pair 2: Juolevii-Tanev Pair 3: Tryamkin-Stecher McEneny, Bulldog Markstrom Bachman Lose: Sbisa(Exp. Draft), Miller, Larsen, Skille To minors: Megna, Chaput Question Marks: UFA Winger? UFA backup? 2017 1st Rounder Possible B Hutton trade to get rid of our log jam. Coach: Green (Crow'd be great tho). Miss the playoffs. Bottom 5 finish. Quote Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleowin Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 2017-2018 Vancouver Canucks Baertschi - Horvat - Jagr/Boeser Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson/Jagr Granlund - Sutter - Goldobin/Eriksson Dorsett - Gaunce - Virtanen/Goldobin Wideman - Tanev Edler - Hutton Stetcher - Gudbranson Tryamkin Markstrom Miller Horvat: 24-37-61 pts Jagr: 29-29-58 pts Boeser: 22-34-56 pts H. Sedin: 18-36-54 pts D. Sedin: 21-33-53 pts Baertschi: 23-25-48 pts Canucks finish 38-34-10, good for 86 points, or 10th in West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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