GoBoGo53 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Just now, TNucks1 said: is it official? I think Bobby reported it, so pretty much. it was either him on Friedge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 14 minutes ago, SilentSam said: I am hoping to see players like Pedan, Grenier, and Archibald get a fair shot now.. not saying a fair shot runs the entire season,. But consecutive games in situations that help their individual strengths, to benefit the team.. is fair. I just feel these players have been given a glance, if that, by our last Coach. Grenier is a UFA. Archibald is signed to a AHL contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, wallstreetamigo said: And apparently according to the Canucks Markstrom is not prepared to be an NHL starting goalie. Which explains them looking to reach-sign Miller. Did they not notice the team finished second to last with Miller in net...SMH. Miller is not as good as they think he is; hence the downward spiral for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rychicken Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I'd prefer Red Green..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelar Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Sure hope he doesn't think Zalawski and Grenier will be pieces going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undrafted Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Well, if nothing else, at least Green's already used to having little to work with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 7 hours ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Sliver lining: We'll likely be sucky for another couple of years. Hopefully in two years time, when we're a bit further along, Green will be out the door and somebody decent will be available. Management has officially thrown the retool out the window. My biggest worry was they would find a very good NHL experienced coach later in the summer after the playoffs axe cut a few more heads off and he would come in here and overachieve at a time when we need to suck for a while longer. Management needs to double down on this and keep our recent and new draft picks in Utica so they can develop properly an be ripe when we hit the jackpot at the draft table then put them all on at once, hate to say it but much like TO did this year with Mathews (jackpot!), Marner, Nylander Brown etc. The team needs a first line, a true top pairing including a pp specialist, and elite goaltending before we can contend again. Benning and Linden just increased our odds at the draft table for a couple years and committed to a full rebuild with this hire. Silver lining for sure. Hope Green the best, but I won't be fooled again, Scotty Bowman he is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, Pete M said: Did they not notice the team finished second to last with Miller in net...SMH. Miller is not as good as they think he is; hence the downward spiral for years to come. Can't really blame Miller (or Markstrom) I don't think. The team just couldn't play good defensively. Doesn't help that the Sedins and Edler along with Megna etc were considered safe go to guys to defend leads in third periods. Miller is a good goalie and saved our bacon a lot. But it's time to run with Markstrom and see what he has. Nothing to lose at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, wallstreetamigo said: Can't really blame Miller (or Markstrom) I don't think. The team just couldn't play good defensively. Doesn't help that the Sedins and Edler along with Megna etc were considered safe go to guys to defend leads in third periods. Miller is a good goalie and saved our bacon a lot. But it's time to run with Markstrom and see what he has. Nothing to lose at all. They may not have reached rock bottom yet...don't know the plans for the Sedins, but if they retire, they need to fill those holes with 25-26 year old talent...if not, it could get uglier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 7 hours ago, BoesersFlow said: Looking forward to him. We're in transitioning mode over the next 2-4 years. He will be a good coach for what we need. We were supposed to be "transitioning" after we fired Tortorella. The 5 to 8 year rebuild struggle is real. This is a major fail, it reeks of incompetence. I'm really beginning to lose my patience with the personnel decision this management group is making. Another rookie coach is not what this team needs. Maybe I'll choke on my words and be proven wrong, but I had the same philosophy when WD was brought on board 3 years ago and look how that turned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 11 minutes ago, Stelar said: Sure hope he doesn't think Zalawski and Grenier will be pieces going forward. Isn't the real question, what does he think of Megna? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 10 minutes ago, Pete M said: Did they not notice the team finished second to last with Miller in net...SMH. Miller is not as good as they think he is; hence the downward spiral for years to come. Carey Price or Holtby couldn't take this team into the playoffs. We just don't get the offence. Maybe Boesser and another year of development with our young guys will add more goals...? Personally I don't want them to sign Miller. Just play Markstrom and see if he swims or sinks, and enjoy the high picks for a couple more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 2 hours ago, crazycry said: One major benefit for Green being head coach is that he knows most of our prospects already. Hopefully we'll see Suban in a few games. Might suggest that would make it more likely we don't see him sooner than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelar Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, S'all Good Man said: Isn't the real question, what does he think of Megna? Grenier is the new Megna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, IBatch said: Carey Price or Holtby couldn't take this team into the playoffs. We just don't get the offence. Maybe Boesser and another year of development with our young guys will add more goals...? Personally I don't want them to sign Miller. Just play Markstrom and see if he swims or sinks, and enjoy the high picks for a couple more years. Markstrom can shelter Demko if things don't go so well for the pair...finishing last or second to last is now the expectation...why over pay for a goalie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, Pete M said: They may not have reached rock bottom yet...don't know the plans for the Sedins, but if they retire, they need to fill those holes with 25-26 year old talent...if not, it could get uglier. I think it is ok if it gets uglier. If fans see a light at the end of the tunnel and see the young guys gaining experience and confidence and growing as players, I think it makes the tough times easier. Benning needs to stop looking for quick fixes and stay on the path to get young guys into the lineup and playing. Green needs to step in with the confidence to look at the long game and not succumb to the immediacy to get wins. If they follow that model I think Green has a much better chance at becoming the coach we need. I am not convinced this is a great move but am willing to give him some time to see what happens. He just needs to differentiate himself from Desjardins especially when it comes to deployment and strategy. He needs to be his own coach now and I hope he will do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, Pete M said: They may not have reached rock bottom yet...don't know the plans for the Sedins, but if they retire, they need to fill those holes with 25-26 year old talent...if not, it could get uglier. Completely agree. Have tried a few times to communicate that the bottom of our cycle will be around or just after the Sedins retire. That's ok. We have two pieces in Horvat and I believe Boesser (NCAA stars tend to translate better into NHL stars) and some high prospects at the moment. A lot more needed before we get around the corner and upwards and onwards towards our first cup. The new drafting rules could lenghten the process as it already has not getting Puljajarvi last year, or maybe our luck turns and it boosts it a bit. If Green survives it he will be a great coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 7 hours ago, CanuckGAME said: Would have rather us went to the vet Marc Crawford. Nothing against Green, but I want someone who has 'been there, done that' working with the rookies. I don't like the idea of another rookie coach, leading the way for a bunch of rookies. I believe Green will grow on you. he might be the type that can re invigorate the Twins too. his player managment is by far better then most rookie coaches. he reminds me more like the Cooper type then others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, Pete M said: Markstrom can shelter Demko if things don't go so well for the pair...finishing last or second to last is now the expectation...why over pay for a goalie? You bet. At this point we are better off accepting things and moving forward with more money and a chance to let Markstrom get his net (finally) and groom Demko as the heir apparent. If they can't do it that is no big deal, we get better prospects and we win either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 6 hours ago, BananaMash said: Oh boy, another rookie coach meant to give guidance to rookies entering the NHL. This should be interesting. Or a disaster. But mostly interesting. I think we're just sour because Willie was so "Green" at the job. and he failed to adapt. Travis Green however is younger and more willing to attempt change. the frustrations of Willies coaching will likely not extend to Green. He is getting his first nhl coaching opportunity some 15+ years eariler then Willie did. Not to mention Green is a former nhl player who grinded it out in the NHL. #TravisGreenParty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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