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Looks like people are starting to notice the Canucks'  prospect pool.  This ranking has them ranked 7th  best.  It wasnt too long ago that they were languishing in the basement of such rankings.  Take it for what its worth (* notice they have Grenier in the list of prospects)

 

http://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-best-farm-systems-2017-ranking/ 

 

#7 – Vancouver Canucks:

2016 Rank: 17th (+10)

Top Prospects: Thatcher Demko, Brock Boeser, Nikolay Goldobin, Alexandre Grenier, Brendan Gaunce, Jonathan Dahlen, Cole Cassels, Dmitri Zhukenov, Jordan Subban, Olli Juolevi, Andrey Pedan, Jakob Stukel, Elias Pettersson, Kole Lind, Jonah Gadjovich, Michael DiPietro

On the Rise: Brock Boeser – 2016-17 NHL/NCAA: 9/32GP – 4/16G, 5/34Pts

The Vancouver Canucks enjoyed a tremendous draft day in 2017, as it was one which – in addition to the development of their existing prospects – has allowed the franchise to sky-rocket up this year’s farm system ranking.

Placing outside of the top-15 in 2016, the Canucks’ selection of Elias Pettersson, Kole Lind, Jonah Gadjovich and Michael DiPietro ushered Vancouver into the top-ten overall with authority. As the NHL’s second-lowest scoring team in 2016-17, the Canucks identified an area of weakness and set out to address it by drafting a trio of dynamic offensive threats.

Michael DiPietro draft profile

Michael DiPietro could be an excellent pick for the Canucks.  (Dave Jewell/THW)

At fifth overall, Vancouver nabbed Pettersson – an exhilarating all-around player who is both lethal and reliable in all three zones of the ice. Then, with their first pick of the second round, the Canucks selected Lind – a tantalizing playmaker whose game progressed considerably this past season.

Further, in what could be the steal of the 2017 NHL Draft, the franchise drafted Gadjovich 55th overall. An intimidating player given his size, Gadjovich could easily have been a first round selection, as his excellent hand-eye coordination and natural goal scoring ability combine to make him a lethal offensive threat.

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Boeser’s incredible skill level will be instrumental to the success of the Canucks’ ongoing rebuild. (Steve Mitchell-USA TODAY Sports)

In addition to those chosen by the team during the 2017 NHL Draft, the Canucks are fortunate to retain a strong class of previously existing up-and-coming prospects. Led by Brock Boeser, Olli Juolevi and Thatcher Demko, Vancouver boasts an elite young player at every position on the ice – a luxury which will surely pay dividends for the team in the long-run as they continue to re-tool their current roster.

Of these three, the most notable and promising of which is surely Boeser. A native of Burnsville, Minnesota, Boeser scored the game winning goal in his first career NHL game and was shockingly productive during his first stint with the Canucks.

A former star at the University of North Dakota from 2015-17, Boeser netted 43 goals and 94 points during his brief time with the Fighting Hawks before inking an entry-level contract with Vancouver. Slated to begin the 2017-18 season in the NHL, expectations of Boeser are at an all-time high, as the skillful forward is projected to play a crucial role in the organization’s immediate future.

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Having Grenier who's on the panthers now, and Cassels ahead of Gaudette says a lot about this list.

 

having said that, 9th- 5th is where I'd put them as well. 

 

Corey Pronman comes out with his list soon and I'm more excited about that 

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14 minutes ago, Zhukini said:

Having Grenier who's on the panthers now, and Cassels ahead of Gaudette says a lot about this list.

 

having said that, 9th- 5th is where I'd put them as well. 

 

Corey Pronman comes out with his list soon and I'm more excited about that 

if im not mistaken, he doesnt even mention Gaudette who I would rank ahead of a few of the guys he lists for sure.

 

Yup Pronman's list should be interesting for sure.

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I take these things with a massive amount of skepticism and find most are very non-complementary to western teams so cannot cherry pick just coz this one likes your Vancouver Canucks.  That being said, the research in the articles is not bad (though some errors for each team including Vancouver) so at least it isn't entirely based upon some biased opinions as seems to have at least tried to have a basis that they explain.

 

Irrespective of any of the above, hard to see Vancouver being this highly ranked and in the top three improved as we know from CDC that JB is brutal so clearly that also shows article must be wrong.

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This article is terrible.  Rates the Penguins as second worst, but it was essentially Pittsburgh's depth that got it done, which a handful of them came from their prospects system.

 

Rates the Defending Cup champs who literally took half of Wilkes Barre's roster the past two years and rates it 30th in the farm league rankings.  To also look at it, Wilkes-Barre finished 1st in the AHL without the likes of Jake Guentzel, Carter Rowney, Conner Sheary, Matt Murray, Bryan Rust etc.  They still had many notable prospects that contributed hugely to their success such as less sexier names like Teddy Blueger, Tristian Jarry, Josh Archibald.  If anything its a testament of how strong the Penguin's system is.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Darius71 said:

Looks like people are starting to notice the Canucks'  prospect pool.  This ranking has them ranked 7th  best.  It wasnt too long ago that they were languishing in the basement of such rankings.  Take it for what its worth (* notice they have Grenier in the list of prospects)

 

http://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-best-farm-systems-2017-ranking/ 

 

#7 – Vancouver Canucks:

2016 Rank: 17th (+10)

Top Prospects: Thatcher Demko, Brock Boeser, Nikolay Goldobin, Alexandre Grenier, Brendan Gaunce, Jonathan Dahlen, Cole Cassels, Dmitri Zhukenov, Jordan Subban, Olli Juolevi, Andrey Pedan, Jakob Stukel, Elias Pettersson, Kole Lind, Jonah Gadjovich, Michael DiPietro

On the Rise: Brock Boeser – 2016-17 NHL/NCAA: 9/32GP – 4/16G, 5/34Pts

The Vancouver Canucks enjoyed a tremendous draft day in 2017, as it was one which – in addition to the development of their existing prospects – has allowed the franchise to sky-rocket up this year’s farm system ranking.

Placing outside of the top-15 in 2016, the Canucks’ selection of Elias Pettersson, Kole Lind, Jonah Gadjovich and Michael DiPietro ushered Vancouver into the top-ten overall with authority. As the NHL’s second-lowest scoring team in 2016-17, the Canucks identified an area of weakness and set out to address it by drafting a trio of dynamic offensive threats.

Michael DiPietro draft profile

Michael DiPietro could be an excellent pick for the Canucks.  (Dave Jewell/THW)

At fifth overall, Vancouver nabbed Pettersson – an exhilarating all-around player who is both lethal and reliable in all three zones of the ice. Then, with their first pick of the second round, the Canucks selected Lind – a tantalizing playmaker whose game progressed considerably this past season.

Further, in what could be the steal of the 2017 NHL Draft, the franchise drafted Gadjovich 55th overall. An intimidating player given his size, Gadjovich could easily have been a first round selection, as his excellent hand-eye coordination and natural goal scoring ability combine to make him a lethal offensive threat.

Brock-Boeser-e1435376890249-575x383.jpg?

Boeser’s incredible skill level will be instrumental to the success of the Canucks’ ongoing rebuild. (Steve Mitchell-USA TODAY Sports)

In addition to those chosen by the team during the 2017 NHL Draft, the Canucks are fortunate to retain a strong class of previously existing up-and-coming prospects. Led by Brock Boeser, Olli Juolevi and Thatcher Demko, Vancouver boasts an elite young player at every position on the ice – a luxury which will surely pay dividends for the team in the long-run as they continue to re-tool their current roster.

Of these three, the most notable and promising of which is surely Boeser. A native of Burnsville, Minnesota, Boeser scored the game winning goal in his first career NHL game and was shockingly productive during his first stint with the Canucks.

A former star at the University of North Dakota from 2015-17, Boeser netted 43 goals and 94 points during his brief time with the Fighting Hawks before inking an entry-level contract with Vancouver. Slated to begin the 2017-18 season in the NHL, expectations of Boeser are at an all-time high, as the skillful forward is projected to play a crucial role in the organization’s immediate future.

I just want to savor this article like a rare bottle of vintage wine.

 

God this feels good!

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Benning has done a remarkable job turning this team around, from what was once a thin prospect pool to one of the best. We're still very heavy on wings, average down the middle and thin on defence though, and there's plenty of work to be done before we can be considered one of the best in the league. He's had a couple of solid drafts though and picked up some late gems.

 

Although not entirely accurate, I think this article is pretty much on the money with the top-10. Philadelphia are going to be scary-good soon. They're stacked down the middle, stacked on the blueline and have one of the best future wingers in their prospect pool not in the NHL-yet. That center depth is going to take them deep in the playoffs and Provorov will probably win a Norris. If they get hot goaltending during the playoffs I reckon they'll be able to beat the future Oilers and Leafs easily. You win in the playoffs with center depth and a star defenceman, and that's what the Flyers have right now in their prospect pool.

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12 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said:

Benning has done a remarkable job turning this team around, from what was once a thin prospect pool to one of the best. We're still very heavy on wings, average down the middle and thin on defence though, and there's plenty of work to be done before we can be considered one of the best in the league. He's had a couple of solid drafts though and picked up some late gems.

 

Although not entirely accurate, I think this article is pretty much on the money with the top-10. Philadelphia are going to be scary-good soon. They're stacked down the middle, stacked on the blueline and have one of the best future wingers in their prospect pool not in the NHL-yet. That center depth is going to take them deep in the playoffs and Provorov will probably win a Norris. If they get hot goaltending during the playoffs I reckon they'll be able to beat the future Oilers and Leafs easily. You win in the playoffs with center depth and a star defenceman, and that's what the Flyers have right now in their prospect pool.

What makes you think the Leafs and Oilers are playoff teams for certain?   A lot of things went very well for Edmonton last year and they did not improve this summer at all - a step back is not out of question.   Toronto the same, hard to see how that all "works" there.   Both teams will have interesting CAP issues very shortly - as soon as this season but certainly not later than next.   Not sure I like how either are "assembled" but certainly they each have a rare elite superstar which helps but it is a team game and even the best of the best playing forward only see about a 1/3 of the game and can be neutralized to some effect unless surrounded by lots of skill.

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7 hours ago, NUCKER67 said:

I noticed that when he mentions Gadjovich, he says he could've easily been a 1st rounder. Lind could've also been considered a 1st rounder. So, did the Canucks just end up with 3 - 1st round-quality picks? Sweet.

Well considering that we had 2nd pick in round 2, you'd hope that would be a player that could've gone in the 1st round. We could've even taken Hague, who a lot of scouts had ranked ~15th overall. 

 

As for Gadjovich, as good as he may end up being, size and hand-eye isn't all that makes a player and this is the first mention I've seen of him being a potential 1st rounder. 

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5 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said:

What makes you think the Leafs and Oilers are playoff teams for certain?   A lot of things went very well for Edmonton last year and they did not improve this summer at all - a step back is not out of question.   Toronto the same, hard to see how that all "works" there.   Both teams will have interesting CAP issues very shortly - as soon as this season but certainly not later than next.   Not sure I like how either are "assembled" but certainly they each have a rare elite superstar which helps but it is a team game and even the best of the best playing forward only see about a 1/3 of the game and can be neutralized to some effect unless surrounded by lots of skill.

Not necessarily next season but in the future 2-3 years. The cap crunch will hurt all of these teams relying on young kids badly, but at the end of the day all you really need is a decent young core to build around and that's what the Leafs and Oilers have.

 

I'd say though that the Flyers have one of if not the best future cores in the league with Nolan, Lindlom and Provorov. They could be the best future center, winger and defenceman in the NHL right there. I don't think Patrick will be, but that Lindblom is something special and Provorov is looking like a future Norris winner.

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