spook007 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Robert Long said: I think thats because we have 6 healthy players that are able to produce in more situations than Jake. He's not a fit when we have a healthy top 6. It would be better for him to get that chance somewhere else if we're able to re-sign TT imo. Agree and yet... would be really disappointed to see JV go, as I will not be the slightest surprised if he breaks through for real next season... but I also understand funds needs to be found, and spaces made available in the line up, so if Toffoli is being resigned there is a possibility this will be the outcome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt kilgore Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Moose Nuckle said: Funny thing is you just described the work of Kamala Harris. Literally put thousands of people in jail for doing drugs and then laughed when she was asked if she ever did them. You are spewing what the clearly corrupt media tells you. Hot tip, the news isn't helpful anymore. People being accountable and putting in work is the right direction. Pointing fingers and mob mentality is the wrong direction. Police should go to schools and teach people how to interact with them. It is very important to interact properly when everyone is so high strung. So the whole population has to train how to make sure they "interact properly" with the police so they don't trigger them. Here's a thought, maybe it would be more efficient to have the police actually go to school, police school, to train in de-escalation in situations where "everyone is so high strung". In the US, officers are given weeks of training, comparing to years of training in other countries. Any racist idiot can apply and get a gun and be handed authority over his fellow citizens in a short amount of time. I'm sure its all framed as saving taxpayer money. I just had to add, your other posts where you harp on CNN. Have another cup of koolaid. CNN is more right wing than left. It is owned by Time-Warner, which is owned by AT&T. Which is owned by wealthy capitalist elites, who donate to both US parties, to cover their bases. You think a huge mega corp like AT&T and the millionaires that own it are run by socialist hippies? The idea that CNN, who gave Trump hundreds of free hours of coverage in the last US election, once famously showing an empty Trump stage waiting for him, while at the same time Bernie Sanders was making a big speech running for nomination. Go back to how they fanboyed the Iraq war for W Bush. Here's a thought, maybe its not the news networks that are "fake" maybe its just that the POTUS is actually making a fool of himself daily, and unlike one other network, they are tired of making excuses for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Nuckle Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, kilgore said: So the whole population has to train how to make sure they "interact properly" with the police so they don't trigger them. Here's a thought, maybe it would be more efficient to have the police actually go to school, police school, to train in de-escalation in situations where "everyone is so high strung". In the US, officers are given weeks of training, comparing to years of training in other countries. Any racist idiot can apply and get a gun and be handed authority over his fellow citizens in a short amount of time. I'm sure its all framed as saving taxpayer money. I just had to add, your other posts where you harp on CNN. Have another cup of koolaid. CNN is more right wing than left. It is owned by Time-Warner, which is owned by AT&T. Which is owned by wealthy capitalist elites, who donate to both US parties, to cover their bases. You think a huge mega corp like AT&T and the millionaires that own it are run by socialist hippies? The idea that CNN, who gave Trump hundreds of free hours of coverage in the last US election, once famously showing an empty Trump stage waiting for him, while at the same time Bernie Sanders was making a big speech running for nomination. Go back to how they fanboyed the Iraq war for W Bush. Here's a thought, maybe its not the news networks that are "fake" maybe its just that the POTUS is actually making a fool of himself daily, and unlike one other network, they are tired of making excuses for him. Holy buddy create your own narrative why don't you. Yes people should know how to interact with police. Yes police should have more training. Yes CNN is trash. Yes everyone is high strung, why do you think there are riots. I'm baffled that you dont think police should be involved in their communities, meeting kids at schools, showing them how to interact and reducing hate between the two. Edited August 27, 2020 by Moose Nuckle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKNuck96 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Just now, kilgore said: So the whole population has to train how to make sure they "interact properly" with the police so they don't trigger them. Here's a thought, maybe it would be more efficient to have the police actually go to school, police school, to train in de-escalation in situations where "everyone is so high strung". In the US, officers are given weeks of training, comparing to years of training in other countries. Any racist idiot can apply and get a gun and be handed authority over his fellow citizens in a short amount of time. I'm sure its all framed as saving taxpayer money. I just had to add, your other posts where you harp on CNN. Have another cup of koolaid. CNN is more right wing than left. It is owned by Time-Warner, which is owned by AT&T. Which is owned by wealthy capitalist elites, who donate to both US parties, to cover their bases. You think a huge mega corp like AT&T and the millionaires that own it are run by socialist hippies? The idea that CNN, who gave Trump hundreds of free hours of coverage in the last US election, once famously showing an empty Trump stage waiting for him, while at the same time Bernie Sanders was making a big speech running for nomination. Go back to how they fanboyed the Iraq war for W Bush. Here's a thought, maybe its not the news networks that are "fake" maybe its just that the POTUS is actually making a fool of himself daily, and unlike one other network, they are tired of making excuses for him. I agree- I also believe in the policing by consent approach And am saddened that the UK had moved away from community policing and is feeling the impact of that, and hopefully we can get back towards that. but I do I agree that people should have To be taught don’t do this or that when dealing with police otherwise you will be shot. It shows a fundamental societal breakdown and sorry to hark on about it, one of the big changes needed are with gun control and laws. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt kilgore Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Moose Nuckle said: Holy buddy create your own narrative why don't you. Naw, That should be enough for any numbskull to understand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Nuckle Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, kilgore said: Naw, That should be enough for any numbskull to understand. You are so nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 3 hours ago, EdgarM said: Its funny how people only see what they want to see. Way back when Petey was getting the extra attention he should have been insulated with some bigger experienced players. How long has he been in the league now? Jake has been inserted into the top 6 a couple of times AND produced. He is a big body who sticks up for his team mates. BUT, Green is too busy playing "DADDY" and refuses to put him in the top 6 on a regular basis. SO...........Petey has to wait until now to get the proper players to play with? He has to wait until Toffoli is back in the line up? And like I said, previous chemistry was already established with Bo and Boes and Pearson and Toffoli. Yet, he only waits until now to put them together? I guess better late then never. Guess so... Regardless he now formed two good forward lines, that I've yet to see be suggested (may have been). With regards to Jake, I think there is more to the story, than we know... And i will not be surprised, disappointed but not surprised, if we see him dealt this off season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, spook007 said: Guess so... Regardless he now formed two good forward lines, that I've yet to see be suggested (may have been). With regards to Jake, I think there is more to the story, than we know... And i will not be surprised, disappointed but not surprised, if we see him dealt this off season... I am more about what the "TEAM" looks like as opposed to what happens to certain players. If I want to strengthen my top 6, I need someone who is fast, can hit/protect the young guys(Petey,Boes) and produce offensively. Does LE fit that bill? Speaking of Boes an Petey. They are young and need some seasoning, so what does Green do? He throws them out there in the playoffs together and expects them to perform. Yet he has inulated Jake for years playing with Sutter etc. on the 3rd and 4th lines. LE WAS a good top 6 player, before he came to Vancouver. NEWSFLASH!! he isn't anymore. The only time Green makes these "Great Moves" is when he is forced to so due to injury or, in this case, when an injured player returns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) Maybe its a good time to close this thread, since there's no actual game day today and this seems to be getting out of hand. Edited August 27, 2020 by Robert Long 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 16 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Then you need to replace Brock... Well sign Toffoli and we have Pods, Lind & Hog in the pipeline. Brock can and should be used for a hockey trade and bring in a top 2 d man of coarse we would have to add a sweetner as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 17 hours ago, Sbriggs said: Trade Brock You look confused? why? Brock is our chip to land a top 2 d man with a sweetner added of coarse. We have Pods, Lind and Hog in the pipe line coming as well so trading Brock is not out of the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 2 hours ago, spook007 said: Agree and yet... would be really disappointed to see JV go, as I will not be the slightest surprised if he breaks through for real next season... but I also understand funds needs to be found, and spaces made available in the line up, so if Toffoli is being resigned there is a possibility this will be the outcome. The problem is Jake doesn't free up any significant money. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, stawns said: The problem is Jake doesn't free up any significant money. True Stawns, but he will command a higher salary than the low one he's on now... I don't see, how JB get to sign Toffoli and not make roster changes... He has already stated Brocks going nowhere, so its down to bottom six players and not sure he gets to free up enough of them.... I hope I'm wrong though. I'd hate to see him go as the potential is there starring you in the eyes.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWestNuck Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 40 minutes ago, Sbriggs said: You look confused? why? Brock is our chip to land a top 2 d man with a sweetner added of coarse. We have Pods, Lind and Hog in the pipe line coming as well so trading Brock is not out of the question I don’t necessarily disagree, but now is not the time. Pods, Lind, and Hog haven’t shown any ability to hang with the big boys yet. give it a year and if they show signs of taking that step, you move Brock at the trade deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken. Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) Oops. Edited August 27, 2020 by Chicken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 21 minutes ago, spook007 said: True Stawns, but he will command a higher salary than the low one he's on now... I don't see, how JB get to sign Toffoli and not make roster changes... He has already stated Brocks going nowhere, so its down to bottom six players and not sure he gets to free up enough of them.... I hope I'm wrong though. I'd hate to see him go as the potential is there starring you in the eyes.... I honestly don't think it's going to matter. It's doubtful we see hockey until at least fall of 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 20 hours ago, NorthWestNuck said: I don’t necessarily disagree, but now is not the time. Pods, Lind, and Hog haven’t shown any ability to hang with the big boys yet. give it a year and if they show signs of taking that step, you move Brock at the trade deadline. Thats definitely a possibility. I say if the offer is too good to refuse do it at the draft but if not we can wait until the trade deadline. Lets just hope he doesn't get injured or have a sudden loss of production where his value drops because then it may be too late. Timing is everything he's playing well enough to still be relevant and valuable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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