The Lock Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Robert Long said: I don't think so. The court likely wouldn't hear the case, they've already left it up to the two groups to work out. Thats part of the whole nation to nation thing, you have to work things like this out. I think that's where this really gets complicated. If a mediator steps in, it doesn't really solve the problem as either one (or neither) side will be happy with the outcome. If the 2 sides are left to figure it out, that also means people have to have an open mind and that's far from easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, The Lock said: I think that's where this really gets complicated. If a mediator steps in, it doesn't really solve the problem as either one (or neither) side will be happy with the outcome. If the 2 sides are left to figure it out, that also means people have to have an open mind and that's far from easy. I don't know if it will be that hard, tbh. The ruling stated "moderate" so a pretty easy interpretation is something around the average income of a commercial fisherman in that area. At least thats a place to begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Have to wonder what the RCMP response would be if hundreds of Indigenous folks were on the rampage using violence, arson, and property destruction to terrorize a local fishing community? Sad to say it, but if you reversed the groups, I expect we’d have already have riot police and tactical units, tear gas, submachine guns, armoured vehicles, and “lethal overwatch” orders. Maybe I’m wrong, but it definitely seems like the RCMP has no problem putting together a full scale paramilitary response to Indigenous protests, like the Wet’suwet’en blockade, even when those protests tend to represent a lesser threat to public safety than what we’re seeing in Nova Scotia right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Have to wonder what the RCMP response would be if hundreds of Indigenous folks were on the rampage using violence, arson, and property destruction to terrorize a local fishing community? Sad to say it, but if you reversed the groups, I expect we’d have already have riot police and tactical units, tear gas, submachine guns, armoured vehicles, and “lethal overwatch” orders. Maybe I’m wrong, but it definitely seems like the RCMP has no problem putting together a full scale paramilitary response to Indigenous protests, like the Wet’suwet’en blockade, even when those protests tend to represent a lesser threat to public safety than what we’re seeing in Nova Scotia right now. I don't think you're wrong at all. I think that's exactly what would happen..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: I don't think you're wrong at all. I think that's exactly what would happen..... I really wanted to be wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Have to wonder what the RCMP response would be if hundreds of Indigenous folks were on the rampage using violence, arson, and property destruction to terrorize a local fishing community? Sad to say it, but if you reversed the groups, I expect we’d have already have riot police and tactical units, tear gas, submachine guns, armoured vehicles, and “lethal overwatch” orders. Maybe I’m wrong, but it definitely seems like the RCMP has no problem putting together a full scale paramilitary response to Indigenous protests, like the Wet’suwet’en blockade, even when those protests tend to represent a lesser threat to public safety than what we’re seeing in Nova Scotia right now. You guys are silly, armed protests in the U.S and Canada are for white folks only. Thats is called exercising your rights, when black, brown, indigenous etc. people do that is called terrorism and national security threat. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: I really wanted to be wrong. As you and Hippy already pointed out, we saw what the reaction was in Wet'suwet'en territory..... Edited October 22, 2020 by RUPERTKBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coda Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 A very informative article that covers the lobster fishing dispute from multiple angles, worth reading in full. https://www.halifaxexaminer.ca/environment/lobster-fishery-at-a-crossroads-3/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, Coda said: A very informative article that covers the lobster fishing dispute from multiple angles, worth reading in full. https://www.halifaxexaminer.ca/environment/lobster-fishery-at-a-crossroads-3/ Great find, will read when I have the time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violator Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 9 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Have to wonder what the RCMP response would be if hundreds of Indigenous folks were on the rampage using violence, arson, and property destruction to terrorize a local fishing community? Sad to say it, but if you reversed the groups, I expect we’d have already have riot police and tactical units, tear gas, submachine guns, armoured vehicles, and “lethal overwatch” orders. Maybe I’m wrong, but it definitely seems like the RCMP has no problem putting together a full scale paramilitary response to Indigenous protests, like the Wet’suwet’en blockade, even when those protests tend to represent a lesser threat to public safety than what we’re seeing in Nova Scotia right now. Just typical Ottawa response wetsuweten they go all jack boot on them.The RCMP commissioner is a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Violator said: Just typical Ottawa response wetsuweten they go all jack boot on them.The RCMP commissioner is a joke Oil is much more important than Lobster......... don't mess with the govenments dirty sludge money..... Edited October 22, 2020 by kingofsurrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violator Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, kingofsurrey said: Oil is much more important than Lobster......... don't mess with the govenments dirty sludge money..... Lobster used to be more valuable than oil then Canada did the same thing and &^@#ed everyone involved. That's why BC has no political power and all of the politicians are garbage. Edited October 22, 2020 by Violator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Mi’kmaq not only become 50% owners of the company but expect to hold Clearwater’s Canadian fishing licences within a fully Mi’kmaq owned partnership. This collective investment by First Nations in Clearwater represents the single largest investment in the seafood industry by any Indigenous group in Canada. Each of Paqtnkek, Pictou Landing, Potlotek, Sipekne’katik, and We’koqma’q have confirmed their intention to participate with Membertou and Miawpukek in this historic investment.” Clearwater is one of North America’s largest vertically-integrated seafood companies and the largest holder of shellfish licenses and quotas in Canada. https://www.nsbuzz.ca/life/clearwater-seafoods-was-just-acquired-for-1-billion-by-a-mikmaq-first-nations-coalition-premium-brands/amp/?__twitter_impression=true 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Mi’kmaq not only become 50% owners of the company but expect to hold Clearwater’s Canadian fishing licences within a fully Mi’kmaq owned partnership. This collective investment by First Nations in Clearwater represents the single largest investment in the seafood industry by any Indigenous group in Canada. Each of Paqtnkek, Pictou Landing, Potlotek, Sipekne’katik, and We’koqma’q have confirmed their intention to participate with Membertou and Miawpukek in this historic investment.” Clearwater is one of North America’s largest vertically-integrated seafood companies and the largest holder of shellfish licenses and quotas in Canada. https://www.nsbuzz.ca/life/clearwater-seafoods-was-just-acquired-for-1-billion-by-a-mikmaq-first-nations-coalition-premium-brands/amp/?__twitter_impression=true wow. What a great result to this whole thing. I wonder how the commercial fishermen that sell to Clearwater feel about working for the Mi'kmaq? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 On 11/10/2020 at 8:59 AM, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: What a welcome surprise, good for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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