Marvin Hagler

[Gurn]

'Marvelous" Marvin Hagler passes away at 66 yrs of age. This guy was the real deal, an all time great. Perhaps the best first round in history, posted below

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/other/boxing-great-marvelous-marvin-hagler-dies-at-66/ar-BB1ezVoL?ocid=msedgdhp

Marvelous Marvin Hagler stopped Thomas Hearns in a fight that lasted less than eight minutes yet was so epic that it still lives in boxing lore. Two years later he was so disgusted after losing a decision to Sugar Ray Leonard — stolen, he claimed, by the judges — that he never fought again.

One of the great middleweights in boxing history, Hagler died Saturday at the age of 66. His wife, Kay, announced his death on the Facebook page for Hagler's fans.

“I am sorry to make a very sad announcement,” she wrote. “Today unfortunately my beloved husband Marvelous Marvin passed away unexpectedly at his home here in New Hampshire. Our family requests that you respect our privacy during this difficult time.”

Hagler fought on boxing’s biggest stages against its biggest names, as he, Leonard, Hearns and Roberto Duran dominated the middleweight classes during a golden time for boxing in the 1980s. Quiet with a brooding public persona, Hagler fought 67 times over 14 years as a pro out of Brockton, Massachusetts, finishing 62-3-2 with 52 knockouts.

“If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove,’’ Hagler once said. ``That’s all I am. I live it.”

Hagler was unmistakable in the ring, fighting out of a southpaw stance with his bald head glistening in the lights. He was relentless and he was vicious, stopping opponent after opponent during an eight year run that began with a disputed draw against Vito Antuofermo in 1979 that he later avenged.

He fought with a proverbial chip on his shoulder, convinced that boxing fans and promoters alike didn’t give him his proper due. He was so upset that he wasn’t introduced before a 1982 fight by his nickname of Marvelous that he went to court to legally change his name.

"He was certainly one of the greatest middleweights ever but one of the greatest people that I’ve ever been around and promoted,'' promoter Bob Arum said. ``He was a real man, loyal and just fantastic person.''

Any doubts Hagler wasn’t indeed Marvelous were erased on a spring night in 1985. He and Hearns met in one of the era’s big middleweight clashes outdoors at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas and when the opening bell rang they traded punches for three minutes in an opening round many consider the best in boxing history.

Hagler would go on to stop Hearns in the third round, crumpling him to the canvas with a barrage of punches even as blood poured out of a large gash on his forehead that nearly caused the referee to stop the fight earlier in the round.

“When they stopped the fight to look at the cut, I realized they might be playing games and I wasn’t going to let them take the title away,? Hagler said later. “It was a scary feeling. I thought, ‘Why are they stopping this fight?’ I didn’t realize I was bleeding. It wasn’t in my eyes. Then I knew I had to destroy this guy.’’

Arum said Hagler simply willed himself to victory over Hearns, whose big right hand was feared in the division but couldn’t keep Hagler at bay.

``That was an unbelievable fight,’’ Arum said. ``Probably the greatest fight ever.’’

Hearns said Saturday he was thinking about Hagler and their historic fight. Hagler wore a baseball cap with the word ``War’’ while promoting it while on a 23-city tour with Hearns that Arum said made the fighters despise each other before they even entered the ring.

``I can’t take anything away from him,’’ Hearns told The Associated Press. ``His awkwardness messed me up but I can’t take anything away from him. He fought his heart out and we put on a great show for all time.’’

Hagler would fight only two more times, stopping John Mugabi a year later and then meeting Leonard, who was coming off a three-year layoff from a detached retina, in his final fight in 1987. Hagler was favoured going into the fight and many thought he would destroy Leonard — but Leonard had other plans.

While Hagler pursued him around the ring, Leonard fought backing up, flicking out his left jab and throwing combinations that didn’t hurt Hagler but won him points on the ringside scorecards. Still, when the bell rang at the end of the 12th round, many thought Hagler had pulled out the fight — only to lose a controversial split decision.

Hagler, who was paid $19 million, left the ring in disgust and never fought again. He moved to Italy to act, and never really looked back.

“I feel fortunate to get out of the ring with my faculties and my health,” he said a year later.

Hagler took the long route to greatness, fighting mostly in the Boston area before finally getting his chance at the 160-pound title in 1979 against Antuofermo as a co-main event with Leonard fighting Wilfredo Benitez on the same card. Hagler bloodied Antuofermo and seemed to win the fight, but when the scorecards were tallied he was denied the belt with a draw.

Hagler would travel to London the next year to stop Alan Minter to win the title, and he held it for the next seven years before his disputed loss to Leonard.

Arum remembered being at a black tie event honouring top fighters a year later that was attended by both Hagler and Leonard, among others. He said Leonard came up to him and pointed to Hagler across the room and suggested he go talk to him about a rematch that would have earned both fighters unbelievable purses.

``I went over to Marvin and said Ray is talking about a rematch,’’ Arum said. ``He glared at me as only Marvin could and said, `Tell Ray to get a life.’’’

Hagler was born in Newark, New Jersey, and moved with his family to Brockton in the late 1960s. He was discovered as an amateur by the Petronelli brothers, Goody and Pat, who ran a gym in Brockton and would go on to train Hagler for his entire pro career.

He was inducted into the International Boxing Hall of Fame and World Boxing Hall of Fame in 1983.

 

[Ghostsof1915]

He will always be Marvelous. RIP.

[4petesake]

Absolutely loved this beast of a fighter/man! It was great era for boxing as this weight division was at least as popular as the heavyweights and arguably more entertaining. A golden era for boxing.

[Gurn]

Hearns

Leonard

Hagler

Duran

 

Hard to find four better fighters, let alone all of them fighting at the same time

[bishopshodan]

One of the Kings.

 

RIP Marvelous. 

[bishopshodan]

Oh no, could this be

 

Thomas Hearns claims Marvin Hagler's death happened after receiving COVID-19 vaccine

https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-marvin-hagler-cause-death-thomas-hearns-claims-boxing-legend-died-covid-vaccine

[Gurn]

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Bombarded with messages alleging that his post supported anti-vaccine sentiment, Hearns posted another message to his Instagram account. He made it clear that he did not intend for the previous text to be an anti-vaccine campaign.

"Allow us to have our peace. Our love and respect to Marvin and his family, this is not an anti vaccine campaign... it's outrageous to have that in mind during the passing of a King, Legend, Father, Husband, and so much more. The Marvelous one, Marvin Hagler.""

[Gurn]

I expect to die after having the vaccine, I'm hoping for 30 years, after having the shot.

[Angry Goose]

Kronk gym alumni 

[crobar]

My favorite fighter at that time. He got such little respect from announcers not using his nickname that he had to legally change his name to Marvelous Marvin Hagler so they had no choice. Funny or sad because they called Leonard  Sugar, Hearns Hitman or Motorcity Cobra, and Duran Hands of Stone.

[Westcoasting]

4 hours ago, gurn said:

Hearns

Leonard

Hagler

Duran

 

Hard to find four better fighters, let alone all of them fighting at the same time

Wow I loved boxing back then, it was such a big event.

[Gurn]

2 hours ago, crobar said:

He got such little respect from announcers

True, seemed they would rather point out perceived flaws, than remark on the tremedous stuff he did do.

 

2 hours ago, crobar said:

not using his nickname

This, was so bush league on a lot of their parts.

I always wondered what their problem was?

[Canuck Surfer]

8 hours ago, bishopshodan said:

Oh no, could this be

 

Thomas Hearns claims Marvin Hagler's death happened after receiving COVID-19 vaccine

https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-marvin-hagler-cause-death-thomas-hearns-claims-boxing-legend-died-covid-vaccine

Dont print this.

Millions of people are dying/

[bishopshodan]

Unfortunately with what Hearns had said and the fact the Hagler's death was unexpected the anti-vaxxers are having a field day.

 

Hearn's is not a  anti-vaxxer but stated what he believed was ailing Marvin before he passed. The passing has been called 'natural causes' but it is also 'unexpected'.

 

As pointed out above millions are dying from covid and the population must get vaccinated but the truth should always be revealed and I don't think Hearns did anything wrong with his statements. 

[Ghostsof1915]

If he was ailing, and had pre-existing conditions. Then why bring up the vaccine if he feels it had nothing to do with his death? 

 

Sorry Hearns is not a doctor, and should be more careful in the things he says. 

[JM_]

25 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

Unfortunately with what Hearns had said and the fact the Hagler's death was unexpected the anti-vaxxers are having a field day.

 

Hearn's is not a  anti-vaxxer but stated what he believed was ailing Marvin before he passed. The passing has been called 'natural causes' but it is also 'unexpected'.

 

As pointed out above millions are dying from covid and the population must get vaccinated but the truth should always be revealed and I don't think Hearns did anything wrong with his statements. 

from what you posted it sounds like Hearns didn't know what he was talking about though. Why would someone post something like that if they didn't have first hand knowledge of what happened? that seems wrong to me. 

[bishopshodan]

6 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

from what you posted it sounds like Hearns didn't know what he was talking about though. Why would someone post something like that if they didn't have first hand knowledge of what happened? that seems wrong to me. 

The article?

I took it as that he was just concerned about his friend and that he did have first hand knowledge. However I have re-read it and apparently he posted a pic of Marvin and... "A real true warrior. Pray for the king and his family... he's in ICU fighting the after effects of the vaccine! He'll be just fine, but we could use the positive energy and Prayer for his Full Recovery!"

 

The fact that he put exclamation marks after 'the effects of the vaccine' suggests that he was trying to blame the vaccination for Marvin's declining health. He now is walking it back.

 

My interest is in the truth. So far it is a 'unexpected natural causes death'.

If it comes out that it is in fact a result of a bad reaction to the shot, I wonder if people will be scolded for talking about it.

[JM_]

1 minute ago, bishopshodan said:

The article?

I took it as that he was just concerned about his friend and that he did have first hand knowledge. However I have re-read it and apparently he posted a pic of Marvin and... "A real true warrior. Pray for the king and his family... he's in ICU fighting the after effects of the vaccine! He'll be just fine, but we could use the positive energy and Prayer for his Full Recovery!"

 

The fact that he put exclamation marks after 'the effects of the vaccine' suggests that he was trying to blame the vaccination for Marvin's declining health. He now is walking it back.

 

My interest is in the truth. So far it is a 'unexpected natural causes death'.

If it comes out that it is in fact a result of a bad reaction to the shot, I wonder if people will be scolded for talking about it.

he is suggesting that, and the walk back suggests he didn't know the details. 

 

I guess its possible that Hagler is the first person to die from the shot, but incredibly unlikely. "Unexpected" is a pretty wide blanket term. 

 

Not sure why anyone would be scolded, it would mean that Hagler had an unknown condition and possibly wasn't treated properly or in time for a severe allergic reaction, again very unlikely. I could see people being scolded for using that as an excuse for the general population to avoid the vaccine. 

[bishopshodan]

21 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

he is suggesting that, and the walk back suggests he didn't know the details. 

 

I guess its possible that Hagler is the first person to die from the shot, but incredibly unlikely. "Unexpected" is a pretty wide blanket term. 

 

Not sure why anyone would be scolded, it would mean that Hagler had an unknown condition and possibly wasn't treated properly or in time for a severe allergic reaction, again very unlikely. I could see people being scolded for using that as an excuse for the general population to avoid the vaccine. 

I read that 'side effects are extremely rare' yet the same article didn't state which vaccine he was given. 

I think his walking back suggests that he doesn't want to ramp up the anti vaxxers but he could have thought about that before saying anything in the first place.

 

I'm no anti-vaxxer. Covid has affected our fam and friends in a big direct way. I am very cautious about the virus and am a little grumpy about the lack of long haul studies. Just watch a news piece on a Dr that is still suffering a year later.  I want more transparency on those issues and on any issues with the vaccinations, such as blood clots, allergic reactions etc...

Edited March 15, 2021 by bishopshodan

[JM_]

22 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

I read that 'side effects are extremely rare' yet the same article didn't state which vaccine he was given. 

I think his walking back suggests that he doesn't want to ramp up the anti vaxxers but he could have thought about that before saying anything in the first place.

 

I'm no anti-vaxxer. Covid has affected our fam and friends in a big direct way. I am very cautious about the virus and am a little grumpy about the lack of long haul studies. Just watch a news piece on a Dr that is still suffering a year later.  I want more transparency on those issues and on any issues with the vaccinations, such as blood clots, allergic reactions etc...

mine too. I do agree as well on the need for more info, that's never a bad thing.