ShawnAntoski Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Hairy Kneel said: Media people say Green is in demand as a NHL head coach and I highly doubt he'll get another head coaching position. Unlike, Torts; it seems Green has made some useful friends locally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Team is too easy to play against too soft not enough size and hard nose drive the net type players last place in division and it’s no surprise Ppl on here were laughing at oilers signing Hyman and look what he has brought to oilers and what his loss has done to Leafs 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ShawnAntoski said: Unlike, Torts; it seems Green has made some useful friends locally. Trained by John Weisbrod. Brian Burke: "I don't even know what he does [Weisbrod]". Edited November 1, 2021 by NewbieCanuckFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, WHL rocks said: Team is too easy to play against too soft not enough size and hard nose drive the net type players last place in division and it’s no surprise Ppl on here were laughing at oilers signing Hyman and look what he has brought to oilers and what his loss has done to Leafs You have to give some credit to Tippett (.56 % winning percentage in 17yrs) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 54 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Lol they didn’t have a “promising season”. They got into the playoffs on a technicality because the season ended early and were sliding towards the bottom when it happened. They were actually out of a playoff spot and likely wouldn’t have made it at all if even one more game had been played. That’s called luck, not promising. They beat a weak team in the play in and St Louis played pretty badly in the first round. The Canucks played pretty well against St Louis. They were completely shelled and outclassed against Vegas and if not for goaltending that is over in 5 at best. This team has not had a single promising season under Benning. The only thing consistent about this team under Benning has been their inconsistency and inability to be consistently competitive. Of course they did and they had a great post season and showed is what they can do. Pretty much the same as every up and coming talented team just getting started on their journey. Turn off the playstation, real life doesn't play the same way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ur a Towel Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 51 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: It wasn’t a series against the Wild. They won 2 out of 3, something that doesn’t require much more than luck. They played well against STL but sorry to say against a Vegas they were completely outcoached, outgunned, outmatched, and outcompeted. Goalies do steal games for teams. Relying on it for 8 seasons to even be remotely competitive though is getting to be a bit extreme. They were wildly inconsistent that season, like every other one under this regime. Just because they were gifted a playoff berth and won a round doesn’t mean it was a promising season. Promise of what exactly? Oh I forget, Benning and Green assume that if you make the playoffs anything can happen. Funny thing is, the better teams that actually play consistently well actually win the cup every year, not ones who can barely strong two consistent efforts together. So they made it there strictly off luck? You're calling people out on excuses and doing the exact same but on the other side of it. Also, we were talking about the 1 season, not all 8 under Benning. Stop moving the goalposts. You asked a question of when we had a promising season and that was answered. If you want to talk about every season under Benning, well that's a different discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ur a Towel said: So they made it there strictly off luck? You're calling people out on excuses and doing the exact same but on the other side of it. Also, we were talking about the 1 season, not all 8 under Benning. Stop moving the goalposts. You asked a question of when we had a promising season and that was answered. If you want to talk about every season under Benning, well that's a different discussion. Lol it wasn’t a promising season. They got lucky the season ended when it did and how playoff teams were determined. Neither had anything to do with them. That’s just luck. You haven’t answered what was so promising about it. Edited November 1, 2021 by wallstreetamigo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 I finally watched the highlights. Couldn't bring myself to watch the whole game. This picture is exactly what's wrong with the Canucks. Every coach in the NHL knows how to play the Canucks since last year when Mtl did this to us and we had no answers resulting in giveaways for grade A chances. Basically opposing strategy is send 2 in deep on the forecheck, keep the centre around the slot looking for ill advised cross ice passes or to angle off winger if he decides to skate it up. This is very easy to do because winger is usually stationary and has to start skating from a standstill and will snuff out any play from Boeser. It looks like Boeser is literally 1 on 4 while he is completely stationary. The 4 closest players around Boeser are all Oilers that are surrounding him. The play results in Boeser trying to make an ill advised pass to Miller which McDavid interceptsand passes to Pool Party who puts it off the post. The play starts with pressuring Poolman who reverses to Hughes. Hughes then passes up to Boeser. Nothing wrong with that as that is normally how hockey is played. Except all the coaches also know this and also realize that is the only play Canucks know how to do. What if Hughes doesn't do the normal pass up to the wing? What if Green has something else drawn up for the times when opposing teams send 2 in deep and do a quick counter? This is the stuff the drives me bananas. Why on earth would Boeser want to play this system? He is a sitting duck with zero options on the half wall. He is not skating so he can't beat his guy one on one, and he has no passing lanes. He should have ate it and put it off the wall but that's essentially giving away possession to McDavid's line. He tries to make a play and now looks like the dummy when the system put him in a no win situation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ur a Towel Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Lol it wasn’t a promising season. They got lucky the season ended when it did and how playoff teams were determined. Neither had anything to do with them. That’s just luck. You haven’t answered what was so promising about it. They beat 2 good teams, albeit one in a 5 game playin and took a very good Vegas team to 7 even if on the back of Demko. Petey had over a point per game, Hughes looked great most of that run and Horvat also had a great playoffs. There was a lot of promise from our team and playoffs. Last season and the start of this season unfortunately have not continued that. Edit. Not sure how I could forget Demkos play as well which was very promising. Miller also had a great season and playoffs. Edited November 1, 2021 by Ur a Towel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 From the tracking company CSA. Probably one of the most elaborate tracking company out there. They capture the context of the play that leads to a shot - number of screens, passing plays, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) Basically 2 things wrong with this play. 1) Boeser should be receiving the puck from Hughes while skating in stride to give himself more options. (Pass or skate with the puck) 2)Miller needs to see where McDavid is and create a lane for Boeser to pass. Ideally Miller should be closer to Boeser's side and have McDavid on the other side so that we can protect the puck. However, McDavid is completely cheating to Boeser's side so theoretically this should have resulted in an odd man counter if we had the right play in place. Nurse is backing up but even if Boeser started to skate, the backside/deepside forechcker already has momentum and would catch Boeser in 2 strides. This is a no win breakout situation but it really shouldn't be as we had D TO D puck control the entire time. This isn't a scrambled play. It's a normal typical hockey play where one strategy was better than the other. Edited November 1, 2021 by CanucksJay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, mll said: From the tracking company CSA. Probably one of the most elaborate tracking company out there. They capture the context of the play that leads to a shot - number of screens, passing plays, etc. Yup if not for those posts, it could have been 3-0 in the first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ur a Towel said: They beat 2 good teams, albeit one in a 5 game playin and took a very good Vegas team to 7 even if on the back of Demko. Petey had over a point per game, Hughes looked great most of that run and Horvat also had a great playoffs. There was a lot of promise from our team and playoffs. Last season and the start of this season unfortunately have not continued that. So there was promise once they were gifted a playoff spot? How exactly was anything they did up until that point “promising”? They played horribly against Vegas as a team. That series was a complete fluke based on goaltending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, CanucksJay said: Yup if not for those posts, it could have been 3-0 in the first... didn't the Canucks hit a couple posts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, stawns said: didn't the Canucks hit a couple posts? I think OEL hit one? But even just watxhing highlights alone, it seems like the Oilers had much better chances? The expected goals and scoring chance differential between the 2 teams suggest the stats back up the eye test. Unless you think the Canucks outplayed the Oilers and were better deserving than a 2-1 loss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, CanucksJay said: I think OEL hit one? But even just watxhing highlights alone, it seems like the Oilers had much better chances? The expected goals and scoring chance differential between the 2 teams suggest the stats back up the eye test. Unless you think the Canucks outplayed the Oilers and were better deserving than a 2-1 loss? Watching the entire game tells that story even more than just the highlights. Canucks were lucky to only lose by 1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 8 hours ago, Wolfgang Durst said: Is it really a fact ? Benning was named GM of the Vancouver Canucks in May 2014 There are currently only 5 players out of Jim Bennings drafting. - Thatcher Demko, drafted 2014 - Brock Boeser , drafted 2015 - Quinn Hughes, drafted 2018 - Elias Pettersson, drafted 2017 - Mc Cann (1st round pick), now Tanner Pearson on this Canucks team. Jim Benning had 6 NHL drafts from 2014 through 2019 to draft players (I don't include 2020 and 2021, because he traded the first round picks). The reality is that he managed to get 5 NHL players out of 6 drafts. Forsling is another NHL player Jim Benning drafted. Vancouver Canucks got in return Adam Glendening who played a total of 17 NHL games for Vancouver. Mc Cann is another NHL player Jim Benning drafted. VAN finally got out of several trades Tanner Pearson. at the end of the day Jim Benning managed to get 5 NHL players out of 6 drafts. How can you say that Benning is a very good drafter? Sadly your perception of Jim Benning's draft record is severly distorted. Benning currently has 7 players on the team who he drafted not 5. Pettersson, Boeser, Höglander, Podkolzin, Hughes, Rathbone and Demko. Another 3 picks are currently in the NHL playing for other teams, McCann, Forsling and Gaudette. He also has an 18 year old in Abby who is a slam dunk to make the team next year. But we won't even count him. Please show me another team that has 10 draft picks currently playing in the NHL starting from the 2014 draft. I'll wait... 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 5 hours ago, Warhawk said: Thats a large list of lost trades and horrible ideas What do you mean nobody cares? 2nd round picks aren't late picks either by the way Hindsight is used to evaluate a GM I can't even argue anything you've said because it's just brainwashed, low expectation excuses. You just excused a laundry list of horrible horrible decision making Meanwhile You're trying to downgrade a GM of a team that was one win away from winning a cup. That is mindboggling to me. Who cares who built that team, we were at the dance. Every person involved should get credit. One last thing, Miller is ****ing trash, he has a horrible attitude that's why he was traded twice already before the age of 27. Tampa Bay just went out and traded a 26 year old "legit first line winger" making 4.5m? Mhm sure they did. If he was what they needed they would of made room but why didn't they? If Gillis was such a great GM, taking over someone else's team to try and win a Cup, then why hasn't any other team even bothered to hire him in the last 8 years? Don't really good GM's usually find new jobs with other teams after they've been fired? I'm confused as to how a player who leads his team in scoring can be considered trash. Can you enlighten me on how that works? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: So there was promise once they were gifted a playoff spot? How exactly was anything they did up until that point “promising”? They played horribly against Vegas as a team. That series was a complete fluke based on goaltending. Wasn't a fluke we took Vegas to 7 games. We had stellar goaltending and Vegas lacked the ability to put anyone away. It caught up with Vegas the next round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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