Herberts Vasiljevs Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: True, he needs time to accommodate for a new dressing room.plus if it's a contender he needs to ramp up his commitment to new guys. He'll be great for a contender. Carolina stands out for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 hour ago, stawns said: that ship sailed in the post season, imo........though they should still push for him. I'd do Byram for Miller straight up, 50% retained 55 minutes ago, Shayster007 said: I reckon you and I may have been the only people on the Byram drum around January when he was rumoured to be available. I was willing to go JT back then for him and obviously would be 100% in still. I'd do straight up in a heart beat. Realistically seems like a not gonna happen. Byram-Makar has potential to be one of the best pairings we have seen in a very, very long time. I package around Newhook is very interesting to me though. Watched quite a bit of him before his draft and he just oozes potential. I haven't kept up with him since though. There's several guys I'd deal Miller one-for-one: Schneider, Byram, Clarke, Chychrun....just to name a few....we don't need quantity in a Miller deal, we need quality. A single, elite young roster player or bona-fide blue-chip asset is still value, anything else is bonus vs letting him walk as ufa. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyGuy123 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Carolina with Necas, Colorado with Newhook, Rangers with Schneider are the three targets I’ll stand by. Lundell and Byram would be great , but I don’t see them available. I don’t see a scenario where we don’t trade or use a 1st round pick to draft or acquire a bluechip RHD, unless the Rangers cave and give us Schneider in the Miller deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyGuy123 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Fanuck said: There's several guys I'd deal Miller one-for-one: Schneider, Byram, Clarke, Chychrun....just to name a few....we don't need quantity in a Miller deal, we need quality. A single, elite young roster player or bona-fide blue-chip asset is still value, anything else is bonus vs letting him walk as ufa. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoastcanucks777 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 2 hours ago, VegasCanuck said: Any way you look at it, Calgary is a diminished team next season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_Hawk Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, Fanuck said: There's several guys I'd deal Miller one-for-one: Schneider, Byram, Clarke, Chychrun....just to name a few....we don't need quantity in a Miller deal, we need quality. A single, elite young roster player or bona-fide blue-chip asset is still value, anything else is bonus vs letting him walk as ufa. The key is you have to be cautious with chemistry; Miller is a leader on the canucks. It is not as easy as filling one void with a player. Look at Tanev; theoretically Hamonic more than filled his void at 1.5m savings. We know what happened there…… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_Hawk Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 54 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Trade Pearson and Hoglander for Severson and add a sweetener to subtract Dickinson. Lots of other moves that could be made; I just pulled that for an example. Landeskog-Pettersson-Boeser Podkolzin-Horvat-Kuzmenko Mikhayev-Rodrigues-Garland Joshua-Lazar-Lockwood Hughes-Severson OEL-Myers Rathbone-Schenn How about resigning Miller and then making your trade for Severson. That team is better than the above. Besides, Landeskog isn’t going to get traded for Miller. Did u watch his playoff performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, BC_Hawk said: How about resigning Miller and then making your trade for Severson. That team is better than the above. Besides, Landeskog isn’t going to get traded for Miller. Did u watch his playoff performance. If Miller re-signs for something reasonable, sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_Hawk Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, King Heffy said: If Miller re-signs for something reasonable, sure. True; it’s all about AAV and term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, BC_Hawk said: The key is you have to be cautious with chemistry; Miller is a leader on the canucks. It is not as easy as filling one void with a player. Look at Tanev; theoretically Hamonic more than filled his void at 1.5m savings. We know what happened there…… It's just as likely that trading Miller will help the chemistry on the team, as his fiery personality is one that can potentially create division. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_Hawk Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Jester13 said: It's just as likely that trading Miller will help the chemistry on the team, as his fiery personality is one that can potentially create division. Meh….that whole Bo vs Miller camp stuff was BS. We have silent leaders…we need a vocal one. Ala Sedons and Kessler 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Westcoastcanucks777 said: Edited July 23, 2022 by Captain Canuck #12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 20 minutes ago, BC_Hawk said: Meh….that whole Bo vs Miller camp stuff was BS. We have silent leaders…we need a vocal one. Ala Sedons and Kessler We'll never know the full truth to the team division rumours, so although it's potentially all bs, it's possible that Miller's personality, when things weren't going so well, did in fact rub some guys the wrong way. It's not as simple as saying losing him will negatively affect the chemistry. Since we don't know, it's just as possible that it improves the chemistry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 I wonder if NJ is still butthurt about the Bo Horvat trade scenario. Maybe they want Bo. Kind of makes sense with them dragging their heels on a trade. But a one for one with Schneider or Byram seem more enticing. We'll be weaker at scoring but better defensively. If it's NJ ask them to throw in a Geerston or Bahl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fanuck Posted July 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: I wonder if NJ is still butthurt about the Bo Horvat trade scenario. Maybe they want Bo. Kind of makes sense with them dragging their heels on a trade. But a one for one with Schneider or Byram seem more enticing. We'll be weaker at scoring but better defensively. If it's NJ ask them to throw in a Geerston or Bahl. NJ was after both Johnny and Tkackphuck quite aggressively apparently and came up short on both. Could they circle back to Miller as an option? 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Lamora Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 22 minutes ago, Jester13 said: We'll never know the full truth to the team division rumours, so although it's potentially all bs, it's possible that Miller's personality, when things weren't going so well, did in fact rub some guys the wrong way. It's not as simple as saying losing him will negatively affect the chemistry. Since we don't know, it's just as possible that it improves the chemistry. Let me first say I love JT Miller as a player on our team. But only those with their JT Blinders (and JT avatars) on will deny that when stuff isn’t going well for the team or himself on the ice JT can, and has, acted like a big baby on skates. His, at times, frequent giving up on plays was a terrible look. I frankly don’t think he’s the most ideal captain material. A pretty damn good lieutenant for a rock steady guy like Bo Horvat though. If the Canucks can bring him back for an AAV in the 7’s, I’m so on board. Seems unlikely he’ll sign for that here though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maginator Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: Rutherford said he's not going to panic til the trade deadline. March 21? I figure the panic should start sooner like January. This gives enough time to negotiate between parties involved. I think he should aim for the xmas break to get things rolling. Time will go too fast and we can't rush this deal too much to get our value. If JT extends? Nevermind. Really hope he just extends.. 8.3x6. 50 mill total. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_Hawk Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Locke Lamora said: Let me first say I love JT Miller as a player on our team. But only those with their JT Blinders (and JT avatars) on will deny that when stuff isn’t going well for the team or himself on the ice JT can, and has, acted like a big baby on skates. His, at times, frequent giving up on plays was a terrible look. I frankly don’t think he’s the most ideal captain material. A pretty damn good lieutenant for a rock steady guy like Bo Horvat though. If the Canucks can bring him back for an AAV in the 7’s, I’m so on board. Seems unlikely he’ll sign for that here though. And that is where I am at; Captain…no. Emotional leader…yes. We still need the Peterson and Bo quiet steady leader approach. I’ll state it again; Sedins and Kesler. Kesler sometimes had a bad look too… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Hairy Kneel said: Rutherford said he's not going to panic til the trade deadline. March 21? I figure the panic should start sooner like January. This gives enough time to negotiate between parties involved. I think he should aim for the xmas break to get things rolling. Time will go too fast and we can't rush this deal too much to get our value. If JT extends? Nevermind. He may say so, but internally surely they are seriously considering resigning him or being concerned... Being play offs bound and then stripping you team of the main driver in the last minute, doesn't happen often (I think).... If they, they would take the offer of a top RHD right now, if they could. Or a good RHD with a good prospect or top2/3 C... Age seems to matter throughout the league, 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Maginator said: Really hope he just extends.. 8.3x6. 50 mill total. This I think most fans would be happy with... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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