JM_ Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Not all RFA’s are offersheet eligible. An QO isn't a signed deal tho. These guys seem to think Brock is an offer sheet candidate: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952882-5-nhl-restricted-free-agents-who-teams-should-target-with-an-offer-sheet Its an interesting idea. Someone could offer him 7.6 mil and we'd get a 1st, 2nd and 3rd back. 15 teams have the picks to do it; https://www.capfriendly.com/offer-sheet-calculator Edited June 25, 2022 by JM_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 52 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: The majority of this post is just false information It's correct. This season QOs are due by 11 July and players not qualified will be free agents on 13 July. Boeser's QO is 7.5M - it's his last base salary. He was grandfathered because he signed his deal before the 120% ceiling on the QO was introduced. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 On 5/18/2022 at 7:52 AM, JM_ said: I was hoping we'd have a crack at Deslauriers. Me too. Big, tough guy, good teammate, great attitude. Got paid a million bucks a year on his expired 2 year deal. Is he still UFA? Offer 2 yrs at $1.5m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Just now, Goal:thecup said: Me too. Big, tough guy, good teammate, great attitude. Got paid a million bucks a year on his expired 2 year deal. Is he still UFA? Offer 2 yrs at $1.5m? might take a little more, but we need a couple of guys like this to impose our will more on teams. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Not all RFA’s are offersheet eligible. Yes you are correct. But that shouldn’t apply to Boeser now. Boeser wasn’t eligible last time because he was designated a 10.2(c) player. The player is only eligible to negotiate and sign a contract with the club that holds their signing rights. That shouldn’t be the case for Boeser this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, JM_ said: An QO isn't a signed deal tho. These guys seem to think Brock is an offer sheet candidate: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952882-5-nhl-restricted-free-agents-who-teams-should-target-with-an-offer-sheet Its an interesting idea. Someone could offer him 7.6 mil and we'd get a 1st, 2nd and 3rd back. 15 teams have the picks to do it; https://www.capfriendly.com/offer-sheet-calculator Honestly, if some team offersheets Boeser at a price and term that doesn’t fit Canucks salary structure, I would be more than happy to get those draft picks. Especially if that team tanks next season. That 1st could be in the Bedard sweepstakes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, BPA said: Honestly, if some team offersheets Boeser at a price and term that doesn’t fit Canucks salary structure, I would be more than happy to get those draft picks. Especially if that team tanks next season. That 1st could be in the Bedard sweepstakes. so... is there a team out there willing to go 6.3-8.4 mil on Brock long term, e.g., a 5 year 6.5 or 7 mil offer sheet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Just now, JM_ said: so... is there a team out there willing to go 6.3-8.4 mil on Brock long term, e.g., a 5 year 6.5 or 7 mil offer sheet? No idea. According to some posters, Boeser isn’t worth anything and are willing to let him walk into UFA. I think a $7M offer would be too much and would let that team get Boeser. Anything between $6.5-6.99, I’d give it a serious thoughts about it but probably let Boeser go. Below $6.5M, I would match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 50 minutes ago, JM_ said: so... is there a team out there willing to go 6.3-8.4 mil on Brock long term, e.g., a 5 year 6.5 or 7 mil offer sheet? A first, a second, and a third? In 2023 draft? I sure hope so. The full compensation scale for 2022 offer sheets is as follows: 2021 OFFER SHEET 2022 OFFER SHEET DRAFT CHOICE(S) $1,356,540 or below $1,386,490 or below None Over $1,356,540 to $2,055,364 Over $1,386,490 to $2,100,742 Third-round pick Over $2,055,364 to $4,110,732 Over $2,100,742 to $4,201,488 Second-round pick Over $4,110,732 to $6,166,096 Over $4,201,488 to $6,302,230 First-round pick Third-round pick Over $6,166,096 to $8,221,463 Over $6,302,230 to $8,402,975 First-round pick Second-round pick Third-round pick Over $8,221,463 to $10,276,829 Over $8,402,975 to $10,503,720 2 First-round picks Second-round pick Third-round pick Over $10,276,829 Over $10,503,720 4 First-round picks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 50 minutes ago, BPA said: No idea. According to some posters, Boeser isn’t worth anything and are willing to let him walk into UFA. I think a $7M offer would be too much and would let that team get Boeser. Anything between $6.5-6.99, I’d give it a serious thoughts about it but probably let Boeser go. Below $6.5M, I would match. yeah its a curious idea, doesn't seem too likely but who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnuckleHead16 Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 On 6/24/2022 at 5:18 PM, secksii said: Pearson and myers aren't plugs... Myers is the biggest plug of all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 7 hours ago, JM_ said: might take a little more, but we need a couple of guys like this to impose our will more on teams. Did I just hear you say Tryamkin?!? jk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, RWJC said: Did I just hear you say Tryamkin?!? jk don't tease me, I'm still not over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, JM_ said: don't tease me, I'm still not over it Neither am I. Even as a healthy scratch, he’s still a mean bastard that we could throw into specific games to minimize abuse. the ship is sailed but one can dream… I wish we could have seen him and Zadorov together on our blue line just for the sheer amount of beef and snarl it would have entailed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoastcanucks777 Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 2 hours ago, KnuckleHead16 said: Myers is the biggest plug of all! No he’s real good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 4 hours ago, RWJC said: Neither am I. Even as a healthy scratch, he’s still a mean bastard that we could throw into specific games to minimize abuse. the ship is sailed but one can dream… I wish we could have seen him and Zadorov together on our blue line just for the sheer amount of beef and snarl it would have entailed. He was never a mean bastard. In fact they showed him tape of pronger stomping people, smashing their heads into the glass and straight up assaulting dudes. He wasn't down for that, he just wanted to make plays and skate like a regular sized dude. Of course there were times when people got in his face/way and he swatted them but he never went out of his way to impose his strength/size, what a thing of beauty it could have been. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 1 minute ago, coryberg said: He was never a mean bastard. In fact they showed him tape of pronger stomping people, smashing their heads into the glass and straight up assaulting dudes. He wasn't down for that, he just wanted to make plays and skate like a regular sized dude. Of course there were times when people got in his face/way and he swatted them but he never went out of his way to impose his strength/size, what a thing of beauty it could have been. he was imposing and could use his size. he could hit like a freight train if he wanted to. and he could scrap. limited sample size: https://www.hockeyfights.com/players/21061 i agree with you, but he's not passive on the ice or in his own zone when things get unruly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 The Islanders have been mentioned as having interest in Boeser. I don’t particularly see a fit… they need to move out forwards and are thin in defence. They need extra cap space as a Dobson extension needs to be inked. A deal involving Boeser+ for Pulock would be pretty stellar though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 23 hours ago, JM_ said: so... is there a team out there willing to go 6.3-8.4 mil on Brock long term, e.g., a 5 year 6.5 or 7 mil offer sheet? Assuming it isn’t a low end of that where we would match… I take a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd in 2023 for Boeser any day of the week. Any unprotected 1st round pick in 2023 is worth a gamble on. Use our Swedish mafia to convince Forsberg to sign for not much more than Boeser’s QO would have been and you have upgraded the position for the same cap space and have a bunch of picks from letting Boeser walk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) On 6/26/2022 at 7:29 PM, Provost said: Assuming it isn’t a low end of that where we would match… I take a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd in 2023 for Boeser any day of the week. Any unprotected 1st round pick in 2023 is worth a gamble on. Use our Swedish mafia to convince Forsberg to sign for not much more than Boeser’s QO would have been and you have upgraded the position for the same cap space and have a bunch of picks from letting Boeser walk. Forsberg is likely asking for 9M or more on an 8 year deal which would be about 10M on a 7 year deal. Only Nashville can offer him 8 years. When negotiations started Friedman said that Poile is fully aware that they have to offer Forsberg more than Johansen/Duchene's 8M, but they were hoping to keep it under Josi's 9M. Poile confirmed this week that they've made him an 8 year offer but that things aren't close. It kind of suggests that he's hoping for at least 9M if not more, over 8 years. EDIT: Per Seravalli he is asking for much less than Josi - he says he was told in the low 8's. Edited June 28, 2022 by mll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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